17:35:36 RRSAgent has joined #ua 17:35:36 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-ua-irc 17:35:38 RRSAgent, make logs public 17:35:40 Zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG 17:35:40 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 17:35:41 Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 17:35:41 Date: 12 June 2013 17:36:55 trackbot, start meeting 17:36:57 RRSAgent, make logs public 17:36:59 Zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG 17:36:59 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 17:37:00 Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 17:37:00 Date: 12 June 2013 17:37:24 allanj has joined #ua 17:37:48 Greg has joined #ua 17:38:48 http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&discussionID=248748750&gid=1854667&trk=eml-anet_dig-b_nd-pst_ttle-cn&ut=3QatXcYPuyHlM1 17:39:13 http://www.wirelessrerc.org/content/newsroom/user-agent-accessibility-guidelines-updated?goback=.gde_1854667_member_248748750 17:39:28 trackbot, start meeting 17:39:30 RRSAgent, make logs public 17:39:32 Zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG 17:39:32 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 17:39:33 Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 17:39:33 Date: 12 June 2013 17:39:43 rrsagent, set logs public 17:40:43 Meeting: Appendix E subgroup 17:41:43 http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2013/ED-IMPLEMENTING-UAAG20-20130607/#alternative-content-list 17:43:26 tag the list .... @alt for IMG (HTML4.x, HTML5) 17:43:45 Jan has joined #ua 17:43:48 group agrees that tagging (html4, html5, svg) is more useful than separate lists 17:45:09 jr: this is really a WCAG thing. a distillation of WCAG techniques 17:45:55 gl: should link to this from the Glossary, and SC, IER that mention alternative content 17:46:20 js: are we serving a purpose with this list. 17:47:25 gl: having a list is useful, for testing,etc. 17:48:00 ... also for developers, to make sure they are covered. 17:48:14 js: perhaps as a table, 17:48:40 gl: then filterable/sortable 17:50:04 allanj has joined #ua 17:50:16 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/tabletools2/ 17:52:57 Jan has joined #ua 17:55:12 need a preramble. 17:56:02 gl: this list of alternative content is provide to help developers and testors, to ensure they are complying with the SC in this documents for alternaive content formats and attributes mentioned 17:56:33 GL: This list of alternative content is provided to help developers and testers insure that they are correctly handling and complying with success criteria in this document that relate to alternative content. 17:56:45 rrsagent, make minutes 17:56:45 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-ua-minutes.html allanj 17:58:22 This list of alternative content is provided to help developers and testers insure that they are correctly handling and complying with success criteria in this document that relate to alternative content. It is recommended that you test user agents against all of the alternative contents for all the document formats of the user agent. 17:58:54 gl: need disclaimer, this list is not comprehensive 17:59:32 These are the elements and attributes that present 'alternative content' relevant to Guideline 1. This list of alternative content is provided to help developers and testers insure that they are correctly handling and complying with success criteria in this document that relate to alternative content. It is recommended that you test user agents against all of the alternative contents for all the 17:59:33 document formats supposed by the user agent. This may not be a comprehensive list 18:01:56 ja: fallback content is a huge problem. 18:05:22 ClickToPlugin & ClickToFlash Safari extensions: ClickToPlugin is a lightweight and highly customizable extension that prevents Safari from launching plug-ins automatically, resulting in faster browsing, reduced fan usage, and increased battery life. It replaces every plug-in object by an unobtrusive placeholder that can be clicked to load the embedded content. Further, it can replace many... 18:05:24 ...plug-in-based media players by Safari’s native HTML5 media player. ClickToFlash is a restriction of ClickToPlugin that only deals with Flash content. (http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/) 18:10:59 http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/html.html 18:12:05 Ahhh they call it "H53: Using the body of the object element" http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/html.html#H53 18:12:14 http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/elements.html#fallback-content 18:13:13 For embed its use of noembed http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/html.html#H46 18:16:19 html5 3.2.5.1.6 fallback on the following audio 18:16:20 canvas 18:16:22 embed 18:16:23 iframe 18:16:25 img 18:16:26 math 18:16:28 object 18:16:29 svg 18:16:31 video 18:20:08 rrsagent, make minutes 18:20:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-ua-minutes.html allanj 18:20:18 http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/access.html 18:21:09 rrsagent, make minutes 18:21:09 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-ua-minutes.html Jan 18:21:13 meeting: Appendix E sub-group minutes 18:21:33 rrsagent, make minutes 18:21:33 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-ua-minutes.html allanj 18:22:34 accessibility features of SVG - http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-SVG-access-20000807/ 18:24:15 rrsagent, make minutes 18:24:15 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-ua-minutes.html allanj 18:37:22 allanj_ has joined #ua 18:41:12 zakim, please part 18:41:12 Zakim has left #ua 18:42:11 rrsagent, make minutes 18:42:11 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-ua-minutes.html allanj 18:42:29 rrsagent, please part 18:42:29 I see no action items