13:29:30 RRSAgent has joined #rd 13:29:30 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-rd-irc 13:29:32 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:29:34 Zakim, this will be 7394 13:29:34 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 1 minute 13:29:35 Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference 13:29:35 Date: 12 June 2013 13:29:50 zakim, this is rdwg 13:29:50 shadi, I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be rdwg". 13:30:00 zakim, who is on the phone? 13:30:00 apparently WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended, shadi 13:30:01 On IRC I see RRSAgent, annika, nonge, shadi, Mate1, Zakim, trackbot 13:30:21 sharper has joined #rd 13:30:56 Yehya has joined #rd 13:31:00 trackbot, start meeting 13:31:00 zakim, please clear the agenda 13:31:00 agenda cleared 13:31:02 WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started 13:31:02 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:31:04 Zakim, this will be 7394 13:31:04 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start now 13:31:05 Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference 13:31:05 Date: 12 June 2013 13:31:12 Chair: Harper_Simon 13:31:13 Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper] 13:31:13 Agenda+ Mobile W3C Note 13:31:13 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/mobile-public-release/results (5m) 13:31:14 [sharper] 13:31:14 Agenda+ Easy to Read W3C Note 13:31:15 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/E2R-Draft/results (5m) [klaus] 13:31:15 Agenda+ Text Customisation W3C Note Status (5m) [shawn/david] 13:31:15 Agenda+ New RDWG Charter (10m) [sharper] 13:31:16 Agenda+ Charter Deliverables - Leads [sharper] 13:31:16 Agenda+ Smart / Haptic Plans (10m) [markku] 13:31:16 Agenda+ Issues and Actions (Standing Item): 13:31:16 https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/ [sharper] 13:31:17 Agenda+ Any Other Business (Standing Item) [sharper] 13:31:18 zakim, save agenda 13:31:23 zakim, take up item 1 13:31:25 ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-rd-agenda.rdf 13:31:27 agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper] 13:32:48 markel has joined #rd 13:34:04 regrets+ Peter, Silvia, Justine, David, Giorgio 13:34:32 - 13:35:13 scribe: annika 13:35:25 zakim, mute me 13:35:25 sorry, annika, I don't know what conference this is 13:35:53 zakim, this is rdwg 13:35:53 ok, shadi; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM 13:36:06 zakim, who is on the phone? 13:36:06 On the phone I see no one 13:36:26 zakim, this is rdwg 13:36:26 shadi, this was already WAI_RDWG()9:30AM 13:36:27 ok, shadi; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM 13:36:29 zakim, who is on the phone? 13:36:29 On the phone I see no one 13:37:04 zakim, this is rdwg 13:37:04 shadi, this was already WAI_RDWG()9:30AM 13:37:05 ok, shadi; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM 13:37:20 zakim, who is making noise? 13:37:31 shadi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P1 (75%), ??P6 (5%) 13:37:40 zakim, who is on the phone? 13:37:40 On the phone I see no one 13:38:26 present: Annika, Markel, Simon, Yehya, Shadi 13:39:40 Topic: Update from User Modeling for Accessibiliy Symposium 13:40:21 Yehya: sever papers have been submitted and are now distributed to the reviewers. 13:41:07 ... The reviewers had to register in the system and should have received an email about the papers they should review. 13:41:34 christos has joined #rd 13:41:53 Yehya: The deadline has been extended until Friday. One ore two more papers might be submitted. 13:42:23 sharper: What's you first impression of the papers? 13:42:45 Yehya: All papers fit the call. The reviewer will give more detailed feedback. 13:42:56 ... Deadline for reviewing the papers in 2013-06-24. 13:43:09 present: Annika, Christos, Markel, Simon, Yehya, Shadi 13:43:14 Luz has joined #rd 13:43:39 shadi has not received the review email. 13:43:54 zakim, mute me 13:43:54 sorry, Luz, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 13:44:07 Yehya will check to make sure the emails were sent. 13:45:35 shadi: The deadline for the CfP was rather short. Consider to invite people to provide additional input to the symposium (same as for the TC4R and E2R symposia). 13:46:24 Yehya: Yes, we will do that. 13:46:31 zakim, take up next 13:46:31 agendum 2. "Mobile W3C Note" taken up [from sharper] 13:46:44 zakim, take up item 5 13:46:44 agendum 5. "New RDWG Charter (10m)" taken up [from sharper] 13:46:59 http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/charter4 13:47:16 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2013Jun/0017 13:47:38 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/RDWG-Charter/results 13:48:30 Yes, minor fixes 13:48:42 shadi: the minor issues are alread fixed. 13:49:32 +1 13:49:32 sharper: Maybe order the "Potential future topics" alphabetically. 13:49:43 +1 for no change 13:49:48 +1 13:49:57 +1 no change 13:51:04 RESOLUTION: leave order of list of potential topics as is 13:51:58 +1 13:52:02 +1 13:52:05 +1 13:52:10 +1 13:52:16 RESOLUTION: leave suggested duration of symposium as is 13:52:16 sharper: Should we write 2 hour symposium or leave the duration open? Please +1 to leave unchanged. 13:52:22 I am trying to get on the phone but zakim does not recognises the password... so for the time being no audio... 13:52:52 +1 13:52:56 +1 13:53:04 +1 13:53:05 +1 13:53:07 sharper: Changed source sentence from "Research Reports (W3C Note): A brief written synopsis of discussion" to "Research Reports: A brief written synopsis, as W3C Working Group Notes, of discussion" 13:53:08 +1 13:53:09 RESOLUTION: change "brief synopsis" to "synopsis" 13:53:43 +1 13:53:44 +1 13:53:45 +1 13:53:53 sharper: +1 for "5 or more acitve participants" 13:53:55 +1 13:53:58 RESOLUTION: leave minimum participation as is 13:54:49 shadi: Some of Shawn's comments are administrative. 13:55:18 sharper: Change "currency" to "relevance"? 13:55:35 [[topics will be addressed. Topics will vary based on the available resources and expertise, currency and potential impact of the topic]] 13:56:04 +1 13:56:06 currency -> timeliness? 13:56:12 +1 13:56:13 +1 13:56:13 +1 13:56:47 List item 2: "Topics will be nominated, selected and prepared by RDWG 13:56:47 participants in good standing." The main point of the symposia is to invite 13:56:47 contributions from the accessibility community. Suggest to add a sentence: 13:56:48 "The accessibility research community is invited to contribute to the 13:56:48 symposia. The contributions are peer-reviewed and are published by the 13:56:48 RDWG." 13:57:20 +1 13:57:23 RESOLUTION: change "currency" to "timeliness" 13:57:28 +1 13:57:29 +1 13:57:31 +1 13:57:40 +1 13:57:41 RESOLUTION: link to RDWG FAQ from explanation of symposia 13:58:02 I think a clear value of RDWG would be to 13:58:02 identify research of immediate or near term value to active W3C standards 13:58:02 activities. Granted RDWG is forward looking, I suggest there is a need to 13:58:03 identify problematic areas existing in current activities (One that comes 13:58:03 to immediate mind, No clear consensus on how to present long descriptions) 13:58:03 and fast track science-based assessment of relevant research and practice, 13:58:03 and if warranted, champion targeted usability/accessibility research to 13:58:04 examine potential solutions. 13:58:04 I would like to see the charter reflect this important role in a clear 13:58:04 manner for RDWG. 13:59:29 sharper: RDWG should emphasize the long-term perspective. 13:59:45 ... According to coordinaton group and Judy. 14:00:00 [[Identifying and detailing areas of research (existing or absent) that may significantly impact accessibility of the Web]] 14:00:29 shadi: First point: Identify areas of research is covered already. 14:00:56 ... Second point: champion targeted usability/accessibility research. Are RDWG in a position to do that? 14:01:11 ... Maybe initiating research fits better. 14:01:41 I agree too 14:01:46 shadi: RDWG is more like a "think tank". Actual research is beyond the scope. 14:01:50 +1 14:01:50 +1 14:01:56 +1 14:03:11 shadi: Markku is not on the call. The issue should be discussed with him by email. 14:03:35 Shadi is going to write an email to Markku. 14:04:22 shadi: please look at the summary email and check that your comments are addressed. 14:04:42 agenda? 14:04:47 ... The charter has to be finished by the end of the month. 14:05:01 shadi: Any other comments on the re-chartering? 14:05:30 zakim, take up item 2 14:05:30 agendum 2. "Mobile W3C Note" taken up [from sharper] 14:05:42 shadi: the editors are working on the comments. 14:05:54 zakim, take up item 3 14:05:54 agendum 3. "Easy to Read W3C Note" taken up [from sharper] 14:06:06 shadi: there will be an updated draft soon. 14:06:19 shadi: any other issues? 14:06:56 Bye bye 14:06:57 bye! 14:07:00 trackbot, end meeting 14:07:00 Zakim, list attendees 14:07:00 As of this point the attendees have been (none) 14:07:08 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 14:07:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/12-rd-minutes.html trackbot 14:07:09 RRSAgent, bye 14:07:09 I see no action items