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19:30:33 <Ian> zakim, what's the code?
19:30:33 <Zakim> the conference code is 7483 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Ian
19:30:39 <Zakim> +Ian
19:30:48 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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19:31:34 <Zakim> + +1.423.838.aabb
19:31:44 <Zakim> +Troy
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19:32:51 <Ian> zakim, who's here?
19:32:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.423.488.aaaa, Ian, [Microsoft], +1.423.838.aabb, Troy
19:32:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see AaronGustafson, Troy, rginn, Kelly, RRSAgent, Ian, dorian, Zakim
19:33:11 <Ian> zakim, aaaa is Aaron
19:33:11 <Zakim> +Aaron; got it
19:33:16 <Ian> zakim, aabb is Kelly
19:33:16 <Zakim> +Kelly; got it
19:33:19 <Ian> zakim, who's here?
19:33:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Aaron, Ian, [Microsoft], Kelly, Troy
19:33:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see AaronGustafson, Troy, rginn, Kelly, RRSAgent, Ian, dorian, Zakim
19:33:27 <Ian> zakim, [Microsoft] holds Robin
19:33:27 <Zakim> +Robin; got it
19:33:30 <Ian> zakim, who's here?
19:33:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Aaron, Ian, [Microsoft], Kelly, Troy
19:33:32 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has Robin
19:33:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see AaronGustafson, Troy, rginn, Kelly, RRSAgent, Ian, dorian, Zakim
19:34:17 <Ian> agenda+ survey results
19:34:20 <Ian> zakim, bye
19:34:20 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.423.488.aaaa, Ian, +1.423.838.aabb, Troy, Aaron, Kelly, Robin
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19:34:29 <Ian> agenda+ survey results
19:34:34 <Ian> agenda+ next steps
19:35:41 <Ian> zakim, take up item 1
19:35:41 <Zakim> agendum 1. "survey results" taken up [from Ian]
19:35:46 <Ian> http://www.w3.org/2013/06/kelly-survey.pdf
19:36:49 <Ian> Kelly: I am still going through the responses…a number are open-ended
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19:37:24 <bevcorwin> Hi there!
19:37:26 <Ian> http://www.w3.org/2013/06/kelly-survey.pdf
19:37:50 <Ian> Kelly: I have put observations in blue....
19:40:51 <Ian> IJ: We want to extract audience needs…and then a layer of vision on top for the July meeting with management
19:44:50 <dorian> phew
19:45:04 <dorian> was out on my skates; traffic on the way back
19:50:14 <Ian> IJ: there's an intersection between groups and branding that we need to work out
19:51:20 <Ian> TAG = Technical Architecture Group
19:58:39 <dorian> have you considered rolling out something like WebID (nee foaf+ssl) such that you can change the content based on whether or not a person is authenticated?
19:59:51 <dorian> (i mention it because since it's a client cert, a person would be authenticated automatically)
20:00:21 <Ian> we do lots of content adaptation based on identification
20:00:55 <Troy> Apologies, I have to drop.
20:01:27 <Ian> Kelly: It's a running theme " Things are hard to find "
20:03:49 <Ian> IJ: I may want to focus on member bits for AC Meeting
20:03:53 <Ian> Bev: And new members ...
20:08:37 <dorian> one of the versions of LOGO i used as a kid, LogoWriter
20:08:42 <dorian> had this concept of "recto" and "verso"
20:08:54 <dorian> recto was the front-facing execution canvas where the program ran
20:09:01 <dorian> verso was the code
20:09:11 <Ian> Question: do we want the member site to be seamlessly integrated or distinct?
20:09:40 <dorian> analogously: recto as the public site; verso as the member/group-specific material
20:12:33 <dorian> (so members come in through the side door ;)
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20:27:22 <Ian> Kelly: Comments on public site suggest there needs to be a new info architecture
20:27:33 <dorian> agreed on the ia
20:27:50 <dorian> mapping the spatial and temporal range of resources would be super useful
20:28:41 <dorian> and using that to inform the ia
20:30:08 <dorian> a dependency graph of the specs as well would be interesting
20:30:54 <rginn> gotta run. catch up via email on next steps.
20:30:58 <Ian> thanks robin
20:34:23 <Ian> zakim, take up item 2
20:34:23 <Zakim> agendum 2. "next steps" taken up [from Ian]
20:34:34 <Ian> Kelly: I will go through the other questions and give Ian what I can in summary form
20:34:46 <dorian> is the raw data anywhere?
20:34:47 <Ian> …if others see correlations that would be helpful to shre
20:34:54 <Ian> I do have the raw data...
20:35:25 <dorian> like what you said about correlations, what 2+ questions particular people answer a certain way
20:35:45 <dorian> if i recall surveymonkey it records that
20:36:57 <Ian> Dorian, csv or xls?
20:37:27 <Ian> topic: Next meeting
20:37:29 <Ian> 18 June
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20:42:06 <dorian> either, got it thanks
20:46:55 <Ian> rrsagent, make minutes
20:46:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/04-site-design-minutes.html Ian
20:46:58 <Ian> rrsagent, set logs public
20:54:36 <bevcorwin> Thank you!
21:02:40 <Ian> zakim, bye
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21:02:42 <Ian> rrsagent, bey
21:02:42 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'bey', Ian.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
21:02:43 <Ian> rrsagent, bye
21:02:43 <RRSAgent> I see no action items