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16:47:56 <LJWatson> LJWatson has changed the topic to: HTML A11y Bug triage weekly meeting
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16:52:43 <LJWatson> zakim, this will be 2119
16:52:43 <Zakim> ok, LJWatson; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)1:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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16:59:52 <Zakim> +MarkS
17:01:32 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:02:38 <MarkS> zakim, [IPcaller] is LJWatson
17:02:38 <Zakim> +LJWatson; got it
17:02:40 <Zakim> +Cooper
17:02:41 <LJWatson> Agenda+ Welcome new members
17:02:49 <LJWatson> Agenda+ Meeting times
17:02:56 <LJWatson> Agenda+ Monitoring new bugs
17:03:08 <LJWatson> Agenda+ New bugs review
17:03:17 <LJWatson> zakim, save agenda
17:03:24 <Zakim> ok, LJWatson, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2013/05/29-a11y-bugs-agenda.rdf
17:03:31 <LJWatson> Chair: Léonie Watson
17:04:47 <Zakim> + +1.310.488.aaaa
17:05:29 <MichaelC> zakim, aaaa is Joseph_O´Connor
17:05:29 <Zakim> +Joseph_O´Connor; got it
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17:06:56 <MichaelC> regrets: Suzanne_Taylor
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17:07:01 <Zakim> + +1.716.842.aabb
17:07:03 <MichaelC> chair: Léonie_Watson
17:07:35 <MichaelC> zakim, aabb is Adrian_Roselli
17:07:35 <Zakim> +Adrian_Roselli; got it
17:08:03 <aardrian> Just making sure I can still use IRC...
17:09:36 <MarkS> zakim, next item
17:09:36 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome new members" taken up [from LJWatson]
17:10:08 <MarkS> LW: Welcome to joseph and andrian.
17:11:53 <MarkS> [introductions]
17:12:29 <MarkS> LW: this task force keeps an eye on bugs that are filed against HTML5 and 5.1 specs that involve accessibility
17:13:02 <MarkS> …discuss new bugs on this call each week.  Those that are worth the TF to champion and pursue we will bring it to the TF and assign it to a TF member.
17:13:28 <MarkS> …these meetings are informal, look at bugs, discuss them from varying angles.
17:13:59 <MarkS> …collectively, we usually have an opinion on most things.  Sometimes we are at a loss and we bring it to the TF for their feedback.
17:14:46 <MarkS> …with regard to 5.0 and 5.1 specs, things are fairly quiet at this time.  During certain stages in the publication process, things can get much busier.
17:14:51 <MarkS> zakim, next item
17:14:51 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Meeting times" taken up [from LJWatson]
17:15:55 <MarkS> LW: how does this time work for everyone?
17:17:13 <MarkS> [discussion - not ideal but there aren't many other options considering our locations]
17:17:39 <MarkS> AR: because of my work schedule, there will be times when I won't be able to make a meeting.
17:17:46 <MarkS> …what is protocol for regrets.
17:18:16 <MarkS> LW: email the bug triage list with regrets.
17:18:57 <MarkS> MC: there are formalities for limiting a person's right to vote if they haven't been around for awhile.  The TF isn't very formal and we are happy to have you when you can make it.
17:19:39 <MarkS> LW: most of us work full time and won't be able to make every meeting.
17:19:43 <MarkS> zakim, next item
17:19:43 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Monitoring new bugs" taken up [from LJWatson]
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17:20:22 <MarkS> LW: one member of the team typically keeps an eye on new bugs filed since last meeting and emails the group prior to the meeting.
17:20:42 <MarkS> …hans hillen  has played this role in the past but will not be able to continue.
17:20:44 <chaals> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:20:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/29-a11y-bugs-minutes.html chaals
17:20:59 <chaals> rrsagent, make log public
17:21:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:21:45 <chaals> zakim, [ip is me
17:21:45 <Zakim> +chaals; got it
17:22:38 <MarkS> … we will need someone to replace him in that role.
17:23:25 <MarkS> … hans has had a filter query that he runs through bugzilla search.
17:23:51 <MarkS> … emails the bug triage list with a brief summary regarding why it was possibly tagged.
17:24:20 <MarkS> MC: working on the bug triage sub-team requires working knowledge of bugzilla.
17:24:51 <MarkS> …there are a number of keywords we use for tracking: 'a11y' means somebody thinks the bug is accessibility related.
17:25:32 <MarkS> …'a11ytf' means the TF has formally decided to track the bug and work on its resolution.  this is usually added to a11y.  normally someone from bug triage will add this keyword.
17:25:42 <LJWatson> The different keywords are described here: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/describekeywords.cgi
17:25:44 <MarkS> s/bug triage/TF
17:25:57 <MarkS> …keywords for 'media'
17:26:52 <MarkS> LW: goes through all of the bugs that have been filed and will add the a11y keyword, emails the list around, then we discuss the implications during our call.
17:27:17 <MarkS> …add a11ytf keyword to those which are worthy of the TF involvement.
17:28:02 <LJWatson> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&chfieldfrom=-2w&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug+creation]
17:28:54 <MarkS> …is anyone interested in taking up this responsibility?
17:29:16 <MarkS> … ok i can reach out to JF or ST
17:29:21 <MarkS> zakim, next item
17:29:21 <Zakim> agendum 4. "New bugs review" taken up [from LJWatson]
17:29:45 <MarkS> LW: The last report was on May 8th. so lets start working through these.
17:30:59 <josephoconnor> josephoconnor@mac.com
17:32:00 <LJWatson> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&chfieldfrom=-3w&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug+creation]
17:33:44 <chaals> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML%20WG&chfieldfrom=-3w&chfieldto=Now&chfield=%5BBug%20creation%5D&list_id=13416
17:34:13 <MichaelC> s/josephoconnor@mac.com//
17:37:12 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21971
17:37:18 <MarkS> MC: going to go through this quickly by reading the bug ID.  I will paste the URL into the minutes.   Unless we need to look more closely, we can just move on.
17:37:58 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21977
17:38:18 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21985
17:38:19 <MarkS> … 21971: filed on the spec itself
17:38:52 <MarkS> … 21985: already tagged as a11yTF by RS himself.
17:39:44 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21987
17:40:40 <MarkS> CN: 21987 is mine and I just closed it.
17:40:58 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21988
17:41:13 <MarkS> … same with 21988
17:41:26 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21994
17:41:30 <MarkS> MC: 21994: not related to us
17:41:39 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21995
17:41:42 <MarkS> … 21995: editorial
17:41:55 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22002
17:42:08 <MarkS> …22002: seems like an editorial issue on the spec.
17:42:16 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22007
17:42:37 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22008
17:42:40 <MarkS> …22007: same difference
17:42:47 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22019
17:42:50 <MarkS> …22008: marked as fixed
17:43:04 <MarkS> …22019:  editorial issue
17:43:06 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22022
17:43:39 <MarkS> …22022: not a11y related
17:43:46 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22023
17:43:51 <MarkS> …22023: not a11y
17:44:02 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22035
17:45:38 <MarkS> MC: 22035: should at least keep an eye on this to monitor it.
17:47:20 <MarkS> CN: do we have a mechanism for tracking a bug through to solution to see if it affects a11y
17:49:01 <MarkS> [discussion]
17:50:35 <MarkS> ACTION for chaals to propose solution for shadow bug process
17:51:10 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22047
17:51:51 <MarkS> ACTION: chaals to propose solution for shadow bug process
17:53:16 <MarkS> MC: reading from SF's proposal. should we track it or let Steve follow it.
17:53:26 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22049
17:53:26 <MarkS> agreement
17:53:40 <MarkS> CN: I think we should track 22049
17:54:07 <MarkS> agreement to add a11y and a11ytf and a11y-tableheaders
17:54:07 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22050
17:54:43 <MarkS> MC: 22050: document outline, is most likely an a11y issue.  track it.
17:55:07 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22074
17:55:11 <MarkS> s/a11y-tableheaders/a11y_table_headers
17:55:34 <MarkS> LW: steve can take care of 22074
17:57:31 <MarkS> CN: 22187, 22188 and 22190 are all longdesc related, assigned to me.  editorial related.
17:57:56 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22191
17:58:13 <MarkS> MC: 22191 ARIA, editorial.
17:58:14 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22195
17:58:34 <MarkS> …22195: steve is tracking this.
17:59:11 <MarkS> LW: I will keep track of new bugs filed between now and next week.
17:59:44 <Zakim> -chaals
17:59:46 <Zakim> -LJWatson
17:59:48 <Zakim> -Cooper
17:59:51 <Zakim> -MarkS
17:59:54 <Zakim> -Joseph_O´Connor
17:59:56 <Zakim> -Adrian_Roselli
17:59:56 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)1:00PM has ended
17:59:56 <Zakim> Attendees were MarkS, LJWatson, Cooper, +1.310.488.aaaa, Joseph_O´Connor, +1.716.842.aabb, Adrian_Roselli, [IPcaller], chaals
17:59:58 <MarkS> rrsagent, make minutes
17:59:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/29-a11y-bugs-minutes.html MarkS
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