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<trackbot> Date: 16 May 2013
<scribe> scribe: Dave Reynolds
<HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-05-09
<scribe> scribenick: DaveReynolds
<fadmaa> hi, am sorry I will only be on the IRC today.
<olyerickson> +1 to minutes
+1 to minutes
<james> +1
Resolved: accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-05-09
<HadleyBeeman> Faadma, where are we on DCAT? Does it need another last call?
<olyerickson> I don't think we need further discussion of DCAT Issue 60: ("rights") https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/60
<fadmaa> yes
<fadmaa> I think we need to go for a second call
<fadmaa> we need some time to respond to the issues and comments we received
<fadmaa> I discussed with cygri today, he is also in favour of going for a second call
olyerickson: Reporting on DCAT
discussions 3 May. One topic was use of dct:rightsStatement
instead of dct:license
... agrees with use of dct:rights, believes this is editorial
(?)
<fadmaa> dct rightStatement is strictly speaking not an editorial change
<fadmaa> as it affects conformance
<fadmaa> someone who used dct license instead before becomes non-conformant
not as scribe - Dave Reynolds agree with fadmaa, not an editorial change
<james> dct:RightsStatement is the range of dct:rights
<olyerickson> The action was for Hadley to talk to John and Fadi
<sandro> fadmaa, is the editor's draft ready for publication as a new TR now....?
<fadmaa> no. somme issues are still not resolved
olyerickson: needs further conversation with fadmaa before ready to review for new publication
<olyerickson> fadmaa: IS TECHNICALLY HERE
<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to coordinate with fadmaa to prepare DCAT for new last call publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-134 - Coordinate with fadmaa to prepare DCAT for new last call publication [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].
<HadleyBeeman> Glossary: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
HadleyBeeman: notes sandro has commented on one entry
<james> +1 to publish note, making it clear that it is not a final document and edits are still welcome, and possibly to create some actions around existing issues
Sandro: could fix first, or could publish in current state and fix later
not as scribe - I too will abstain
<olyerickson> I suggest we delay to tweak these star definitions to be more "actionable"
<sandro> STRAWPOLL: Publish the Linked Data Glossary (https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html), with a clear statement that it's a work-in-progress and we hope to improve it later.
<sandro> +0
+0
<gatemezi> +1
<Mike_Pendleton> +0
<sandro> fadmaa?
<MariosMeimaris> +0
<olyerickson> +1 to pub as work inprogress
<tinagheen> +1
<james> +1 if we can also resolve to allow editor to resolve 5 star issue without having to loop back to WG
<fadmaa> I didn't follow on this issue
<fadmaa> +0
<james> +1 to what DaveReynolds is saying (consistent with my comment)
<olyerickson> "subject to resolution of 5-star defn issues to satisfaction of chairs"
Proposed: approve publication of Glossary as WG note (https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html), subject to resolution of "5* issue" to satisfaction of chairs (which may include publishing as is)
<sandro> +0.25
<Mike_Pendleton> Biplav had numerous changes send in today
<james> 5-star issue includes Excel issue, no?
<gatemezi> @Mike_Pendleton/ I guess they are more editorial changes...
<gatemezi> so more easier to handle than the issue raised by Sandro
<james> +1
<tinagheen> +1
+1
<MariosMeimaris> +1
<olyerickson> +1 to new proposal
<gatemezi> +1 again
<Mike_Pendleton> +1
Resolved: approve publication of Glossary as WG note (https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html), subject to resolution of "5* issue" to satisfaction of chairs (which may include publishing as is)
<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to suggest changes to 5 star text [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-135 - Suggest changes to 5 star text [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].
<HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013May/0060.html
HadeleyBeeman: need to review Marios-response. JSON-LD will be going to a second last call for API shortly.
<olyerickson> I got zero feedback from RPI hackers
<olyerickson> ...on JSON-LD
<MariosMeimaris> +q
<HadleyBeeman> DaveReynolds: Main comment is for 1. Subjugation between JSON-LD and RDF model needs to be more specific. "This is the mismatch and what we would like to see changed."
<HadleyBeeman> … I'm not so worried about the other comments. Other working groups have had defs for URIs and IRIs.
<HadleyBeeman> … I'd be inclined not to rename @id. It's been around too long
<james> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-org/ uses URI, no IRI mentioned
<james> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ uses both
MariosMeimaris: in response to point 1, the WG is well aware of the differences but JSON-LD well established, so maybe our feedback should be more about clarifying the differences in the document
sandro: suggests Marios send as personal comment
<olyerickson> -1 to getting group consensus
MariosMeimaris: could make response more detailed, the email was not supposed to be a draft response, just point out the issues that should be covered
DaveReynolds: suggests further delay not helpful, especially since no further Last Call on syntax document
Sandro: focus on editorial comments would be more helpful
HadleyBeeman: JSON-LD not going to CR for a few weeks, so there should be scope to feedback editorial comments
<scribe> ACTION: MariosMeimaris to draft response to JSON-LD by early next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-136 - Draft response to JSON-LD by early next week [on Marios Meimaris - due 2013-05-23].
HadleyBeeman: asks gatemezi to chase timetable with Bernadette
not as scribe - have scanned, not thorough review
<olyerickson> unmuting
HadleyBeeman: only issue Phil is aware of is whether DCAT will have a contactPoint property that adms can reuse
olyerickson: discussed, sees no problem adding it, but not sure of final decision
<fadmaa> +1 to add contactPoint to DCAT
olyerickson: since going to chage dcat (for dct:rights) anyway can make this change at the same time
<james> +1 to add contactPoint to DCAT - the White House Project Open Data is recommending a non-standard "person" attribute for this property currently
HadleyBeeman: asks olyerickson to reply to Phil on ADMS email thread when contactPoint has been added to DCAT
<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to add contactPoint property to ADMS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-137 - Add contactPoint property to ADMS [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].
<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to notify Phil when contactPoint has been added so that it can be used in ADMS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-138 - Notify Phil when contactPoint has been added so that it can be used in ADMS [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].
HadleyBeeman: checks WG will be in a position to vote on ADMS next week - no comments to the contrary
HadleyBeeman: no known outstanding issues
(note as script) I've reviewed it, and am happy
<olyerickson> I have no issues with RegOrg
james: happy with RegOrg
<gatemezi> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/raised
<olyerickson> tracker link?
Most raised issues are DCAT
olyerickson: most of these have been dealt with in the discussions, need to check each one. Most are believed resolved, need to confirm amongst the editors and update the tracker
<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to coordinate review of DCAT issues, send a status update to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-139 - Coordinate review of DCAT issues, send a status update to the list [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].
<olyerickson> That's the last time I show up without the other DCAT guys ;)
<olyerickson> bye!@
<HadleyBeeman> Also, thank you DaveReynolds for scribing!
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