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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

16 May 2013

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Attendees

Present
james, Sandro, HadleyBeeman, olyerickson, DaveReynolds, tinagheen, Mike_Pendleton, MariosMeimaris, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, gatemezi
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Dave Reynolds

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 16 May 2013

<scribe> scribe: Dave Reynolds

<HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-05-09

<scribe> scribenick: DaveReynolds

<fadmaa> hi, am sorry I will only be on the IRC today.

<olyerickson> +1 to minutes

+1 to minutes

<james> +1

Resolved: accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-05-09

DCAT

<HadleyBeeman> Faadma, where are we on DCAT? Does it need another last call?

<olyerickson> I don't think we need further discussion of DCAT Issue 60: ("rights") https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/60

<fadmaa> yes

<fadmaa> I think we need to go for a second call

<fadmaa> we need some time to respond to the issues and comments we received

<fadmaa> I discussed with cygri today, he is also in favour of going for a second call

olyerickson: Reporting on DCAT discussions 3 May. One topic was use of dct:rightsStatement instead of dct:license
... agrees with use of dct:rights, believes this is editorial (?)

<fadmaa> dct rightStatement is strictly speaking not an editorial change

<fadmaa> as it affects conformance

<fadmaa> someone who used dct license instead before becomes non-conformant

not as scribe - Dave Reynolds agree with fadmaa, not an editorial change

<james> dct:RightsStatement is the range of dct:rights

<olyerickson> The action was for Hadley to talk to John and Fadi

<sandro> fadmaa, is the editor's draft ready for publication as a new TR now....?

<fadmaa> no. somme issues are still not resolved

olyerickson: needs further conversation with fadmaa before ready to review for new publication

<olyerickson> fadmaa: IS TECHNICALLY HERE

<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to coordinate with fadmaa to prepare DCAT for new last call publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-134 - Coordinate with fadmaa to prepare DCAT for new last call publication [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].

<HadleyBeeman> Glossary: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html

Glossary

HadleyBeeman: notes sandro has commented on one entry

<james> +1 to publish note, making it clear that it is not a final document and edits are still welcome, and possibly to create some actions around existing issues

Sandro: could fix first, or could publish in current state and fix later

not as scribe - I too will abstain

<olyerickson> I suggest we delay to tweak these star definitions to be more "actionable"

<sandro> STRAWPOLL: Publish the Linked Data Glossary (https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html), with a clear statement that it's a work-in-progress and we hope to improve it later.

<sandro> +0

+0

<gatemezi> +1

<Mike_Pendleton> +0

<sandro> fadmaa?

<MariosMeimaris> +0

<olyerickson> +1 to pub as work inprogress

<tinagheen> +1

<james> +1 if we can also resolve to allow editor to resolve 5 star issue without having to loop back to WG

<fadmaa> I didn't follow on this issue

<fadmaa> +0

<james> +1 to what DaveReynolds is saying (consistent with my comment)

<olyerickson> "subject to resolution of 5-star defn issues to satisfaction of chairs"

Proposed: approve publication of Glossary as WG note (https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html), subject to resolution of "5* issue" to satisfaction of chairs (which may include publishing as is)

<sandro> +0.25

<Mike_Pendleton> Biplav had numerous changes send in today

<james> 5-star issue includes Excel issue, no?

<gatemezi> @Mike_Pendleton/ I guess they are more editorial changes...

<gatemezi> so more easier to handle than the issue raised by Sandro

<james> +1

<tinagheen> +1

+1

<MariosMeimaris> +1

<olyerickson> +1 to new proposal

<gatemezi> +1 again

<Mike_Pendleton> +1

Resolved: approve publication of Glossary as WG note (https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html), subject to resolution of "5* issue" to satisfaction of chairs (which may include publishing as is)

<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to suggest changes to 5 star text [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-135 - Suggest changes to 5 star text [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].

JSON-LD response

<HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013May/0060.html

HadeleyBeeman: need to review Marios-response. JSON-LD will be going to a second last call for API shortly.

<olyerickson> I got zero feedback from RPI hackers

<olyerickson> ...on JSON-LD

<MariosMeimaris> +q

<HadleyBeeman> DaveReynolds: Main comment is for 1. Subjugation between JSON-LD and RDF model needs to be more specific. "This is the mismatch and what we would like to see changed."

<HadleyBeeman> … I'm not so worried about the other comments. Other working groups have had defs for URIs and IRIs.

<HadleyBeeman> … I'd be inclined not to rename @id. It's been around too long

<james> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-org/ uses URI, no IRI mentioned

<james> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ uses both

MariosMeimaris: in response to point 1, the WG is well aware of the differences but JSON-LD well established, so maybe our feedback should be more about clarifying the differences in the document

sandro: suggests Marios send as personal comment

<olyerickson> -1 to getting group consensus

MariosMeimaris: could make response more detailed, the email was not supposed to be a draft response, just point out the issues that should be covered

DaveReynolds: suggests further delay not helpful, especially since no further Last Call on syntax document

Sandro: focus on editorial comments would be more helpful

HadleyBeeman: JSON-LD not going to CR for a few weeks, so there should be scope to feedback editorial comments

<scribe> ACTION: MariosMeimaris to draft response to JSON-LD by early next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-136 - Draft response to JSON-LD by early next week [on Marios Meimaris - due 2013-05-23].

Best practices

HadleyBeeman: asks gatemezi to chase timetable with Bernadette

ADMS

not as scribe - have scanned, not thorough review

<olyerickson> unmuting

HadleyBeeman: only issue Phil is aware of is whether DCAT will have a contactPoint property that adms can reuse

olyerickson: discussed, sees no problem adding it, but not sure of final decision

<fadmaa> +1 to add contactPoint to DCAT

olyerickson: since going to chage dcat (for dct:rights) anyway can make this change at the same time

<james> +1 to add contactPoint to DCAT - the White House Project Open Data is recommending a non-standard "person" attribute for this property currently

HadleyBeeman: asks olyerickson to reply to Phil on ADMS email thread when contactPoint has been added to DCAT

<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to add contactPoint property to ADMS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-137 - Add contactPoint property to ADMS [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].

<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to notify Phil when contactPoint has been added so that it can be used in ADMS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-138 - Notify Phil when contactPoint has been added so that it can be used in ADMS [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].

HadleyBeeman: checks WG will be in a position to vote on ADMS next week - no comments to the contrary

Regorg

HadleyBeeman: no known outstanding issues

(note as script) I've reviewed it, and am happy

<olyerickson> I have no issues with RegOrg

james: happy with RegOrg

tracker review

<gatemezi> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/raised

<olyerickson> tracker link?

Most raised issues are DCAT

olyerickson: most of these have been dealt with in the discussions, need to check each one. Most are believed resolved, need to confirm amongst the editors and update the tracker

<scribe> ACTION: olyerickson to coordinate review of DCAT issues, send a status update to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-139 - Coordinate review of DCAT issues, send a status update to the list [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-23].

<olyerickson> That's the last time I show up without the other DCAT guys ;)

<olyerickson> bye!@

<HadleyBeeman> Also, thank you DaveReynolds for scribing!

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: MariosMeimaris to draft response to JSON-LD by early next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: olyerickson to add contactPoint property to ADMS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: olyerickson to coordinate review of DCAT issues, send a status update to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: olyerickson to coordinate with fadmaa to prepare DCAT for new last call publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: olyerickson to notify Phil when contactPoint has been added so that it can be used in ADMS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: olyerickson to suggest changes to 5 star text [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-gld-minutes.html#action02]
 
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