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14:57:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
14:57:44 <trackbot> Date: 14 May 2013
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14:59:03 <Joshue108> zakim, [IPcaller] is Joshue
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14:59:24 <MichaelC> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:59:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see [Adobe], Joshue, Cooper
14:59:34 <MichaelC> zakim, adobe is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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15:00:31 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2013AprJun/0046.html
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15:04:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Joshue, Cooper, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Marc_Johlic, Kathy, Loretta, [IPcaller]
15:05:13 <MichaelC> zakim, Ipcaller is Kerstin_Probiesch
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15:06:28 <AWK> Scribe: Kathy
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15:07:54 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/WCAG2ICT_May142013/results
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15:08:16 <Kathy> TOPIC:  Miscellaneous WCAG2ICT Issues for 14th May 2013
15:08:24 <Loretta_> Not a promising start for my wireless this morning. :-(
15:08:34 <MichaelC> zakim, Loretta is Peter_Korn
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15:09:22 <AWK> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/WCAG2ICT_May142013/results
15:09:25 <Loretta_> zakim, IPCaller is Loretta
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15:10:40 <Kathy> Resolution:  3 items approved as proposed; 1. Text for Guideline 3.2 Predictable: Make Web pages appear and operate in predictable ways. 2. Proposed Command Line text  3. SC 1.2.1 - we are removing "conforming alternate version"
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15:12:06 <AWK> Zakim, mute darobin
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15:12:28 <Kathy> Topic:  Change "the content" to "non-web documents and software" in 2.2.1 in WCAG2ICT
15:12:57 <Loretta> Must be me...
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15:13:26 <MichaelC> zakim, darobin is Loretta
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15:13:31 <MichaelC> zakim, mute Loretta
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15:13:55 <Loretta> I'm having my usual problems with my home wireless. Will listen on the phone but probably just use IRC for contributing.
15:14:00 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
15:15:05 <Kathy> Andrew:  Are we talking about 1.3.1 or 2.2.2?
15:16:07 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen
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15:16:28 <Kathy> Gregg:  Title does not match the question.  This is about the structure, 1.3.1
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15:17:40 <korn> q+
15:17:52 <Loretta> Gregg's example is of information on the page, so it is already covered by 1.3.1 for a page. It is coincidental that the information happens to be about the web site.
15:18:19 <AWK> Current definition of structure in WCAG 2.0: structure          The way the parts of a Web page are organized in relation to each other; and          The way a collection of Web pages is organized
15:19:49 <Joshue108> +1
15:20:24 <Joshue108> +q to say that this may be confusing as it looks like it's related to WCAG SC 2.2.1 and not WCAG2ICT 2.2.1
15:20:43 <Joshue108> -1
15:20:51 <Loretta> q+ to say maybe removing the unnecessary part of the definition should go into the errata.
15:21:48 <Joshue108> Is there a URI for WCAG2ICT 2.2.1?
15:23:15 <Joshue108> -q
15:23:22 <Joshue108> ack korn
15:23:48 <kerstin_probiesch> just corrected my comment. 2.2.1 was meant in my comment not 1.3.1
15:23:53 <korn> q-
15:24:09 <Kathy> Peter: nothing seems to suggest that 1.3.1 is about the structure of the collection of items / set of pages. It is a structure of a page.  We should add comment
15:24:13 <Joshue108> ack Lor
15:24:14 <Zakim> Loretta, you wanted to say maybe removing the unnecessary part of the definition should go into the errata.
15:24:24 <Loretta> If we do anything but ignore this problem, I suggest adding to errata.
15:24:42 <Loretta> Don't add more explanation drawing attention to this oversight.
15:24:49 <Loretta> either in wcag or 2ict.
15:24:50 <Kathy> Gregg:  The only success criteria that has this is 1.3.1
15:24:57 <korn> q+
15:25:10 <Joshue108> ack korn
15:25:15 <Kathy> Loretta: maybe removing the unnecessary part of the definition should go into the errata.
15:25:42 <AWK> q+
15:25:48 <Loretta> I think we are trning somethingthat isn't a problem into a problem.
15:26:05 <Kathy> Peter:  remove from the definition in the errata.
15:26:36 <Joshue108> ack AWK
15:26:37 <Kathy> Loretta: I think we are trning something that isn't a problem into a problem.
15:27:30 <Kathy> Andrew:  Worth having it in the errata.
15:28:40 <Kathy> Peter:  Structure of WCAG to ICT is organized to do substutions and we would have to call this term out of the glossary and reference the errata.
15:29:04 <Loretta> Sounds good to me.
15:29:05 <Kathy> Andrew:  Sounds ok
15:29:16 <Kathy> Gregg:  Sounds good idea too
15:29:26 <Joshue108> zakim, queue?
15:29:26 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:29:54 <greggvanderheiden> (I renamed the first survey item so it makes sense when we come back someday.   Kathy you might change the topic to match the new title.  Everyone can refresh to see it)
15:30:39 <Kathy> Resolution:  Add the change in the definition of structure to the errata and notify the ICT group to adjust accordingly
15:31:35 <Joshue108> zakim, who is noisy?
15:31:46 <Zakim> Joshue108, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Andrew_Kirkpatrick (4%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (24%)
15:33:06 <greggvanderheiden> "the last line in the STRUCTURE definition relates to STRUCTURE of pages - and the use of STRUCTURE in WCAG only relates to structure within a web page.  So the last line in the definition is removed to remove confusion.
15:33:19 <Kathy> s/Topic:  Change "the content" to "non-web documents and software" in 2.2.1 in WCAG2ICT/Topic: Definition of STRUCTURE - (and its use in 1.3.1)/
15:34:28 <greggvanderheiden> "The last line in the STRUCTURE definition relates to the STRUCTURE of a collection of pages - and the use of STRUCTURE in WCAG only relates to structure within a web page.  So the last line in the definition is removed to remove confusion.
15:37:24 <AWK> Zakim, who is making noise?
15:37:35 <Zakim> AWK, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Andrew_Kirkpatrick (5%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (5%)
15:38:06 <Joshue108> +1
15:38:42 <AWK> ACTION: akirkpat2 to add survey item for next week for modification to definition of structure to errata.
15:38:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-197 - Add survey item for next week for modification to definition of structure to errata. [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2013-05-21].
15:39:32 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
15:39:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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15:40:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
15:42:00 <Loretta> If this is a new proposal, it needs to go onto a survey.
15:42:21 <Kathy> Resolution: Proposal rejected, topic to be resolved by survey item for the modification to definition of structure to errata
15:43:41 <korn> Structure will (post errata) say: "The way the parts of a Web page are organized in relation to each other", and we want it in WCAG2ICT to be "The way the parts of a [NON-WEB DOCUMENTS OR SOFTWARE] are organizaed in relation to each other"
15:43:56 <Joshue108> +1
15:43:56 <Loretta> I am not comfortable with proposals on the fly like this.
15:44:11 <Loretta> We have people who fill in the survey but aren't at themeeting.
15:44:18 <Joshue108> ok
15:44:20 <Kathy> Topic: Can we change web pages to NON-WEB DOCUMENTS OR SOFTWARE?  Structure will (post errata) say: "The way the parts of a Web page are organized in relation to each other", and we want it in WCAG2ICT to be "The way the parts of a [NON-WEB DOCUMENTS OR SOFTWARE] are organizaed in relation to each other"
15:44:28 <Loretta> I epect it to go through easily, but lets follow the process.
15:44:36 <Joshue108> zakim, unmute me
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15:45:07 <Kathy> Andrew: We should go to survey with this topic
15:45:19 <Joshue108> zakim, mute me
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15:46:15 <Joshue108> Ok, but we should follow process if this is 'new'.
15:47:06 <Kathy> Resolution:  Put on the survey for next week.
15:47:56 <Kathy> Topic:  Text for Guideline 3.2 Predictable: Make Web pages appear and operate in predictable ways.
15:48:59 <Loretta> +1 to Marc
15:49:01 <Kathy> s/Topic:  Text for Guideline 3.2 Predictable: Make Web pages appear and operate in predictable ways./Topic: Text for Principle 4: Robust - Content must be robust enough that it can be interpreted reliably by a wide variety of user agents, including assistive technologies.
15:49:28 <Kathy> Marc: "accessibility services of software and assistive technologies" should also be defined / described in the document.
15:50:04 <Joshue108> Good catch Marc.
15:50:19 <Kathy> This should be put into the ICT glossary definitions
15:51:24 <korn> See http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2ict/#keyterms
15:53:43 <Loretta> pending definition?
15:53:57 <Kathy> Resoltion: Accepted as proposed including the request to the taskforce tocreate a definition for accessibility services.
15:54:18 <Joshue108> s/Resoltion:/Resolution:
15:54:25 <korn> Loretta - WCAG WG will review & approve that proposed glossary term definition.
15:54:35 <korn> That will happen in 1-2 weeks.
15:54:40 <Kathy> s/tocreate/to create
15:54:52 <Loretta> (Just tossing out possible resolution wording - no issue...)
15:55:18 <Kathy> Topic: Text for Guideline 4.1 Compatible: Maximize compatibility with current and future user agents, including assistive technologies.
15:55:57 <Kathy> Resolution:  Accepted as proposed
15:56:18 <Kathy> Topic: Removing reference to (non-existent) conformance section -- and cleanup of substitution misses
15:56:50 <korn> q+
15:57:14 <Joshue108> +q To ask about how or even will WCAG2ICT conformance be measured?
15:58:32 <Kathy> Michael: a paragraph in the introduction is needed to explain that conformance references are removed and why
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15:59:06 <korn> q-
15:59:14 <Joshue108> ack me
15:59:14 <Zakim> Joshue, you wanted to ask about how or even will WCAG2ICT conformance be measured?
15:59:18 <korn> q+
15:59:42 <Kathy> Joshue: how or even will WCAG2ICT conformance be measured?
15:59:56 <Kathy> Gregg:  This is just a note so you cannot conform to it
16:00:02 <korn> q-
16:00:10 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
16:00:33 <AWK> Zakim, who is on the queue?
16:00:33 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
16:00:37 <Joshue108> ack korn
16:00:50 <Joshue108> zakim, mute me
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16:01:33 <Kathy> Resolution:  accepted as proposed.  Request that the taskforce write a introduction paragraph
16:03:21 <AWK> ACTION: korn to write paragraph to explain why references to conformance criteria are not needed in WCAG2ICT
16:03:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-198 - Write paragraph to explain why references to conformance criteria are not needed in WCAG2ICT [on Peter Korn - due 2013-05-21].
16:04:04 <Kathy> Topic: WCAG2ICT guidance for viewport definition
16:04:49 <Kathy> Andrew:  Loretta suggests to replace "user agent" in Note 1
16:04:59 <Kathy> Gregg:  we will replace this
16:05:19 <Kathy> Resolution:  accepted as amended with the change to user agent in Note 1
16:06:00 <AWK> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/CharterRefreshMay2013/results
16:06:04 <Kathy> Topic: Call for WG input to new WCAG Charter
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16:06:39 <Joshue108> zakim, unmute me
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16:09:34 <Kathy> Topic: Support Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0 Recommendation
16:09:45 <Joshue108> zakim, mute me
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16:10:10 <korn> q+
16:10:29 <Joshue108> ack korn
16:10:38 <AWK> Zakim, who is making noise?
16:10:49 <Zakim> AWK, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregg_Vanderheiden (18%), Peter_Korn (48%)
16:11:15 <Loretta> Absolutely not!
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16:11:23 <Joshue108> +1
16:11:27 <Joshue108> +q
16:11:50 <Kathy> Peter:  would like clarification on whether non-W3C web technologies are in scope
16:12:03 <Joshue108> ack me
16:12:08 <Joshue108> zakim, unmute me
16:12:08 <Zakim> Joshue was not muted, Joshue108
16:12:09 <Loretta> IT seems clearly out of scope.
16:12:27 <Kathy> Andrew:  nothing in the charter that says we can or can't add these in
16:13:07 <greggvanderheiden> q+
16:13:19 <Kathy> Andrew:  need to look at this in prioritization
16:14:17 <Kathy> Peter:  it doesn't seem clear in the language whether the expanding or creating techniques for non-W3C non-Web technologies is or is not in scope
16:14:47 <AWK> q+
16:14:49 <Kathy> Peter:  we need to explicit as whether this is or is not in the charter
16:15:02 <David> q+
16:15:30 <Joshue108> ack gregg
16:15:52 <Joshue108> zakim, mute me
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16:17:12 <Kathy> Gregg: we should check with Judy.  I think it was meant for Web technologies.  If we go into other non-Web technologies other groups may have issue with W3C.  This needs to be a strategic decision of the W3C
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16:17:53 <David> q+
16:18:00 <korn> Q+
16:18:07 <Kathy> Gregg:  I suggest adding the word Web in the charter
16:18:19 <Joshue108> ack AWK
16:18:44 <Kathy> Joshue:  Good suggestions, I will follow up on this
16:19:09 <Joshue108> ACTION: Josh to follow up with Judy about the scope of the Charter, if it covers both web and non web technologies.
16:19:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-199 - Follow up with Judy about the scope of the Charter, if it covers both web and non web technologies. [on Joshue O Connor - due 2013-05-21].
16:19:11 <Kathy> Andrew:  Agree with the suggestion
16:19:27 <MichaelC> q+
16:19:51 <Kathy> David: Remove the work desktop and have it include mobile web.  May want to talk about viewport sizes
16:19:54 <MichaelC> q+ to say Judy asked me to add the ¨desktop and mobile¨ stuff, but perhaps didn´t anticipate this scope concern; we should still check with her
16:20:28 <Kathy> Peter:  we should go further and say that non-web technologies is not in scope
16:20:29 <Joshue108> ack David
16:20:32 <Joshue108> ack korn
16:20:34 <AWK> q+
16:21:01 <greggvanderheiden> q+
16:21:08 <Joshue108> ack Mich
16:21:08 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say Judy asked me to add the ¨desktop and mobile¨ stuff, but perhaps didn´t anticipate this scope concern; we should still check with her
16:21:29 <Kathy> Michael:  we should ask for clarification before removing anything
16:21:52 <Joshue108> ack awk
16:22:12 <Joshue108> +1 to all platforms
16:22:31 <Joshue108> zakim, queue?
16:22:31 <Zakim> I see greggvanderheiden on the speaker queue
16:23:25 <David> q+
16:23:25 <Joshue108> ack greg
16:24:12 <Joshue108> ack dav
16:24:21 <David> q+
16:24:39 <MichaelC> Fourth bullet in out of scope: The WCAG WG will not publish techniques for non-web technologies.
16:25:00 <Joshue108> ack dav
16:25:55 <greggvanderheiden> q+
16:26:00 <Joshue108> ack greg
16:26:01 <Kathy> David:  I have a problem with that bullet.  What about Word, Excel documents as web content?  These should be included as techniques.  We would not want to restrict this
16:26:19 <Kathy> Andrew:  I agree
16:26:51 <Kathy> Gregg: I agree with David.  If we put that in the exception then we need to define non-web technologies.
16:27:28 <Joshue108> s/Andrew:  I agree/
16:27:31 <Loretta> q+ to say that the difficulty of deciding what a web technology is doesn't mean that we should be taking on non-web technologies.
16:27:47 <Joshue108> +q
16:27:53 <Joshue108> ack Lor
16:27:53 <Zakim> Loretta, you wanted to say that the difficulty of deciding what a web technology is doesn't mean that we should be taking on non-web technologies.
16:28:09 <Loretta> Just what I said. Still must stay uted.
16:28:22 <Kathy> Loretta: the difficulty of deciding what a web technology is doesn't mean that we should be taking on non-web technologies.
16:28:23 <Loretta> Otherwise, I just loose my connection.
16:28:32 <Joshue108> zakim, unmute me
16:28:32 <Zakim> Joshue was not muted, Joshue108
16:28:33 <Loretta> er, lose
16:28:47 <kerstin_probiesch> sorry, I have to leave
16:28:56 <Loretta> I don;t want us spending time on Excel.
16:28:57 <kerstin_probiesch> bye
16:29:06 <Loretta> PDF already meets our defiition of we technology.
16:29:07 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Probiesch
16:29:15 <Kathy> Gregg:  if we put in an exclusion does this mean we need to remove PDF and that we will not include any new techniques.
16:29:16 <Loretta> Servably from a URI.
16:29:43 <Joshue108> ack me
16:30:09 <Loretta> And this is why the office document formats are such edge cases. It really depends on the user agent support.
16:30:11 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
16:30:39 <greggvanderheiden> what is our definition of web technologies?
16:30:46 <greggvanderheiden> q+
16:30:48 <Kathy> Andrew:  Loretta's comment is that PDF is included in web technologies that it can be served from a URI.  Having this exclusion means that we need to justify the collection that we are working on
16:30:54 <Joshue108> ack greg
16:31:15 <Kathy> Gregg: what is our definition of web technologies?
16:31:26 <AWK> Web page: a non-embedded resource obtained from a single URI using HTTP plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it by a user agent
16:32:01 <Loretta> Let's go back to the discussion we had around Word. If you need to download the content from the web, it is not web content. If the user agent (can) serve the content directly from the URI, then it is web content.
16:32:43 <Loretta> Rat hole!
16:33:04 <Kathy> Joshue: we need to go back and look at the definitions
16:33:23 <AWK> q+
16:33:28 <Kathy> Gregg:  this is a discussion that we need to have
16:33:39 <AWK> ack AWK
16:33:43 <Loretta> But I don't want to even review, more or less write, techniques for command line technologies.
16:33:54 <greggvanderheiden> q+
16:33:57 <Joshue108> zakim, mute me
16:33:57 <Zakim> Joshue should now be muted
16:34:37 <Joshue108> zakim, unmute me
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16:34:41 <Joshue108> ack gregg
16:34:52 <Kathy> Andrew: we are out of time. We have a lot to do within Web technologies.  This seems like a low risk issue right now
16:36:42 <Joshue108> ACTION: Joshue to add discussion of web technologies to survey
16:36:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-200 - Add discussion of web technologies to survey [on Joshue O Connor - due 2013-05-21].
16:36:47 <Kathy> Andrew:  If we do not add this to the out-of-scope, can anyone not live with that?
16:37:12 <Loretta> YEs, I am still uncomfortable with that, but we aren't going to reach consensus right now.
16:37:30 <Loretta> I wouldn't fall on my sword about adding it to the exclusions.
16:37:35 <Zakim> -Joshue
16:37:38 <Loretta> I won't work on any non-web content, however.
16:38:33 <Loretta> Right, but I can live with leaving it as it is.
16:39:15 <Kathy> Andrew:  leave it out of the out-scope section for now.  We will return to the charter next week
16:39:49 <Zakim> -Kathy
16:39:51 <Zakim> -Peter_Korn
16:39:54 <Zakim> -Cooper
16:40:01 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
16:40:02 <Zakim> -Loretta
16:40:07 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
16:40:17 <AWK> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:40:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html AWK
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16:41:00 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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16:41:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Joshue, Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Marc_Johlic, +1.978.443.aaaa, Kathy, Kerstin_Probiesch, Peter_Korn, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Loretta,
16:41:01 <Zakim> ... David_MacDonald, James_Nurthen
16:41:32 <AWK> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:41:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html AWK
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17:20:12 <MichaelC> chair: Andrew_Kirkpatrick
17:20:31 <MichaelC> present- +1.978.443.aaaa
17:20:45 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
17:20:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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