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17:01:58 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
17:01:58 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM scheduled to start now
17:01:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
17:01:59 <trackbot> Date: 02 May 2013
17:02:20 <clown> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Apr/0019.html
17:03:24 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM has now started
17:03:31 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
17:03:39 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:03:39 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
17:03:48 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:03:48 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:04:06 <clown> RRSAgent, make log public
17:04:32 <clown> scribenick: clown
17:04:59 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
17:04:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-aapi-minutes.html clown
17:05:27 <clown> chair:  Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:05:29 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
17:05:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-aapi-minutes.html clown
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17:19:07 <Zakim> + +1.416.816.aaaa
17:20:00 <clown> zakim, aaaa is David_Bolter
17:20:00 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
17:20:26 <clown> Topic:  ACTION-1200
17:20:32 <clown> action-1200?
17:20:32 <trackbot> ACTION-1200 -- Cynthia Shelly to create table for author errors in UAIG, with columns for each API. -- due 2013-05-01 -- OPEN
17:20:32 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200
17:21:29 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#document-handling_author-errors
17:21:48 <clown> JS:  table shows how to handle author errors.
17:21:56 <clown> JS:  PF wants to remove it.
17:21:57 <davidb> davidb has changed the topic to: maroons
17:22:23 <clown> JS: Cynthia suggested at the F2F that it be extended to include that AAPI mappings.
17:24:36 <clown> DB:  fine with me.
17:24:56 <clown> JS:  Cynthia will provide me with the table markup, and I will add it to the UAIG.
17:25:08 <clown> topic:  bugzilla 19772
17:25:13 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19772#c11
17:26:16 <clown> issue-566?
17:26:16 <trackbot> ISSUE-566 -- Inconsistency between Spec's required states/properties for certain roles and UAIG's error handling of those roles/states/properties -- open
17:26:16 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/566
17:27:28 <clown> JS:  <describes the history of the bug>
17:28:00 <clown> JS:  Cynthia wants this text:  "If aria-expanded (state) is not "true", expose STATE_SYSTEM_COLLAPSED" to be put in the UIA Express Column for role combobox.
17:28:33 <davidb> ok
17:30:13 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19772#c7
17:34:14 <clown> action:  as per resolution of bugzilla 19772 (https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19772), add "If aria-expanded (state) is not "true", expose STATE_SYSTEM_COLLAPSED" to the UIA Express Column for role combobox.
17:34:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1214 - Per resolution of bugzilla 19772 (https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19772), add "If aria-expanded (state) is not "true", expose STATE_SYSTEM_COLLAPSED" to the UIA Express Column for role combobox. [on Alexander Surkov - due 2013-05-09].
17:35:35 <clown> JS:  I changed the owner of action-1214 to myself.
17:35:53 <clown> topic:  ACTION-851
17:35:56 <clown> ACTION-851?
17:35:56 <trackbot> ACTION-851 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to look through APG design patterns re: menus for examples that relate to UAIG 5.8.4 -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
17:35:56 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/851
17:37:24 <clown> JS:  at the face-to-face, Cynthia said she would double check that these events are not generated by IE10.
17:37:31 <clown> JS:  we are waiting to hear from her.
17:37:45 <clown> topic:  ACTION-1175
17:37:48 <clown> ACTION-1175?
17:37:49 <trackbot> ACTION-1175 -- David Bolter to status of ROLE_SYSTEM_TEXT in MSAA/IA2 column for role=heading -- due 2013-03-18 -- OPEN
17:37:49 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1175
17:38:34 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
17:39:00 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases/edit?testsuite_id=1&testcase_id=191
17:39:06 <Zakim> +David_Bolter
17:41:05 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testresults?testsuite_id=1&testcase_id=191
17:43:42 <clown> DB:  Just wait, and not worry about it. When I remove the BSTR hack, we can close the action.
17:45:00 <clown> JS:  *wonders why the test passed when RIch tested FF/MSAA+IA2"
17:46:49 <clown> topic:  ISSUE-550
17:46:52 <clown> ISSUE-550?
17:46:52 <trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
17:46:52 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
17:47:13 <clown> JS:  Last call items
17:47:33 <clown> JS:  we dealt with 19772, and we have to wait on Cythia for the menu event question.
17:48:04 <clown> topic:  ACTION-1203
17:48:10 <clown> ACTION-1203?
17:48:10 <trackbot> ACTION-1203 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to change uaig so that aria slected = undefined maps to false on tab and option -- due 2013-05-01 -- OPEN
17:48:10 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1203
17:53:09 <clown> DB:  generally okay, but not in the case where a native option is, in fact, selected, but the author has left out aria-selected.
17:53:17 <clown> DB:  don't want to expose false in that case.
17:54:06 <clown> JS:  intent is for the case where the author has incorrectly stated undefined or left the attribute out.
17:55:58 <clown> action-1201?
17:55:59 <trackbot> ACTION-1201 -- James Nurthen to generate example list where options can be unselectable -- due 2013-05-01 -- OPEN
17:55:59 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1201
17:57:09 <clown> JS:  just so you know.
17:58:08 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
17:59:20 <clown> zakim, please part
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17:59:39 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
17:59:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:00:00 <clown> regrets:  Cynthia_Shelly
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