12:54:59 RRSAgent has joined #webtv 12:54:59 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/04/24-webtv-irc 12:55:13 zakim, this will be webtv 12:55:13 ok, kaz; I see UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes 12:57:51 UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM has now started 12:57:58 +Bin_Hu 12:58:49 Clarke has joined #webtv 12:59:29 +Clarke 12:59:43 zakim, call kazuyuki-617 12:59:43 ok, kaz; the call is being made 12:59:44 +Kazuyuki 13:00:44 zakim, who is here? 13:00:44 On the phone I see Bin_Hu, Clarke, Kazuyuki 13:00:45 On IRC I see Clarke, RRSAgent, Zakim, Bin_Hu, kaz, timeless, trackbot 13:01:01 +Mark_Vickers 13:01:30 scribe: Mark_Vickers 13:01:42 Meeting: Web and TV IG - Testing TF 13:01:46 Chair: Clarke 13:01:49 Mark_Vickers has joined #webtv 13:01:55 scribenick: Mark_Vickers 13:02:16 Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Testing/Agenda_Telco_24th_April_2013 13:02:50 +CyrilRa 13:03:02 + +1.203.274.aaaa 13:04:01 CyrilRa has joined #webtv 13:04:14 - +1.203.274.aaaa 13:04:45 Topic: Update on liaison letter & internal poll 13:05:04 Regrets: Giuseppe 13:05:14 + +1.203.274.aabb 13:05:35 zakim, aabb is Roger 13:05:35 +Roger; got it 13:06:07 Giuseppe reported that several groups are considering the poll. 13:06:38 action-110? 13:06:38 ACTION-110 -- Sheau Ng to update the IG wiki with his use cases -- due 2013-04-24 -- OPEN 13:06:38 http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/actions/110 13:07:04 Clarke: Testing meeting on Friday. They clarified questions. Clear plan on testing & tools. Defined financing levels. 13:07:40 Mark: There is a $3M budget & need contributions. 13:07:58 Topic: Review and edit requirements from new use cases 13:08:47 Use case Sheau 1: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Testing/Web_%26_TV_Testing_Discussions/Browser_Synchronization 13:08:49 roger: Can review sheau's use cases 13:10:17 clarke: First use case is browser synchronization. Complex use case. Two or more sources of content - e.g. language track on phone and main stream on TV. 13:10:41 ... possibly different CDMs on different browsers & need synch. 13:10:57 zakim, who is speaking? 13:11:07 kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Clarke (19%), Mark_Vickers (19%) 13:11:26 Bin: I think the use case makes sense. 13:11:51 clarke: [reading use case] 13:12:50 ... 1. Any questions? 2. Do we feel it's valid & would add test requirements to our platform? 13:13:27 ... My opinion is it does add test requirements. No others add browser synchronization. 13:13:55 bin: Agree. Testing synchronization will be valuable. 13:14:18 clarke: It also adds functionality to test tool by testing two browsers. 13:14:47 ... propose we move to valid test case & include in requirements doc. Any opposed? OK. 13:15:08 ... Next use case: Browser switching 13:15:23 ... [reading use case] 13:16:32 ... Would support watching video on tablet & transferring to TV, when tablet & TVs have different CDMs 13:17:03 ... [reading use case] 13:17:37 -> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Testing/Web_%26_TV_Testing_Discussions/Browser_Switching Use Case 2 13:17:38 ... I think this is realting to the previous one, except instead of running simultaneously, it's sequential. 13:18:02 bin: I think use case makes sense. 13:18:13 s/... I think/clarke: I think/ 13:18:13 q+ 13:19:24 mark_vickers: Good use case, but transferring streams isn't supported by web platform yet. 13:19:50 q? 13:20:08 bin: transferring streams could be an application feature, but not a platform feature. 13:20:21 + +1.514.461.aacc 13:20:22 mark_vickers: agree 13:21:00 zakim, who is here? 13:21:00 On the phone I see Bin_Hu, Clarke, Kazuyuki, Mark_Vickers, CyrilRa, Roger, +1.514.461.aacc 13:21:02 On IRC I see CyrilRa, Mark_Vickers, Clarke, RRSAgent, Zakim, Bin_Hu, kaz, timeless, trackbot 13:21:08 clarke: So, the HTML5 feature of this and previous use case is the same. 13:21:26 mark_vickers: so maybe these should be rolled into one. 13:22:38 SergeySl has joined #webtv 13:23:05 ACTION: Roger to check with Sheau on whether the two use cases are testing the same HTML5 features. 13:23:05 Error finding 'Roger'. You can review and register nicknames at . 13:23:59 kaz: This could be a good use case for multimodal group. 13:24:51 ... prehaps multimodal part of the use case needs additional testing 13:25:50 s/Roger/Rajan/g 13:26:02 ACTION: Rajan to check with Sheau on whether the two use cases are testing the same HTML5 features. 13:26:02 Created ACTION-111 - Check with Sheau on whether the two use cases are testing the same HTML5 features. [on Rajan Mehta - due 2013-05-01]. 13:27:13 zakim, Roger is Rajan 13:27:13 +Rajan; got it 13:27:17 Topic: Other business 13:27:47 clarke: no other business 13:27:51 zakim, aacc is SergeySI 13:27:51 +SergeySI; got it 13:27:56 Topic: Next steps 13:28:13 zakim, who is here? 13:28:13 On the phone I see Bin_Hu, Clarke, Kazuyuki, Mark_Vickers, CyrilRa, Rajan, SergeySI 13:28:15 On IRC I see SergeySl, CyrilRa, Mark_Vickers, Clarke, RRSAgent, Zakim, Bin_Hu, kaz, timeless, trackbot 13:28:31 -CyrilRa 13:28:41 ACTION: Clarke to update the requirements doc with new requirements and place in repository. 13:28:41 Created ACTION-112 - Update the requirements doc with new requirements and place in repository. [on Clarke Stevens - due 2013-05-01]. 13:28:45 Present: Bin_Hu, Clarke, Kaz, Mark_Vickers, CyrilRa, Rajan, SergeySI 13:28:52 +CyrilRa 13:29:59 clarke: question for group is when we have enough feedback from external groups? 13:31:24 mark_vickers: Suggest we create a document to hold results in members-only area. 13:31:39 kaz: should it be in wiki or HTML format? 13:31:48 clarke: wiki format easier 13:32:07 ACTION: kaz to create members-only wiki area. 13:32:07 Created ACTION-113 - Create members-only wiki area. [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2013-05-01]. 13:33:06 -CyrilRa 13:33:07 clarke: closes meeting 13:33:07 -Rajan 13:33:08 -Bin_Hu 13:33:13 [ adjourned ] 13:33:14 Thanks, Mark 13:33:15 -SergeySI 13:33:17 -Mark_Vickers 13:33:19 rrsagent, draft mintues 13:33:19 I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help 13:33:25 -Kazuyuki 13:33:26 -Clarke 13:33:27 UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM has ended 13:33:27 Attendees were Bin_Hu, Clarke, Kazuyuki, Mark_Vickers, CyrilRa, +1.203.274.aaaa, +1.203.274.aabb, +1.514.461.aacc, Rajan, SergeySI 13:33:29 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:33:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/24-webtv-minutes.html kaz 13:33:47 rrsagent, make log public 13:33:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:33:48 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/24-webtv-minutes.html kaz 13:34:24 rrsagent, stop 16:06:38 RRSAgent has joined #webtv 16:06:38 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/04/24-webtv-irc 16:06:40 RRSAgent, make logs world 16:06:40 Zakim has joined #webtv 16:06:42 Zakim, this will be 16:06:42 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 16:06:43 Meeting: Web and TV Interest Group Teleconference 16:06:43 Date: 24 April 2013 16:06:56 RRSAgent, stop