13:04:38 RRSAgent has joined #webtv 13:04:38 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/04/17-webtv-irc 13:04:49 Meeting: Web&TV Testing TF 13:05:01 Chair: Clarke 13:05:42 agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Testing/Agenda_Telco_17th_April_2013 13:05:48 Scribe: Bin 13:06:01 TOPIC: update on liaison letter 13:06:13 rrsagent, make log public 13:06:21 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:06:21 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz 13:06:31 Chair: Giuseppe is absent 13:06:51 ... so proceed to next agenda 13:07:08 TOPIC: review and get requirement from use cases 13:07:33 Chair: last week we reviewed all existing use cases, and approved all of them 13:07:55 ... then I extracted the requirement from them. That's what we want to discuss today 13:08:26 Chair presented requirement in GotoMeeting 13:09:31 From 1st use case: we need standardized API for test hooks 13:09:35 rrsagent, who is here? 13:09:35 I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'who is here' 13:09:44 zakim, who is here? 13:09:44 On the phone I see Bin_Hu, Clarke, Mark_Vickers, Kazuyuki 13:09:45 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Mark_Vickers, Zakim, kaz, Clarke, Bin, timeless, trackbot 13:10:01 Present: Bin, Clarke, Mark, Kaz 13:10:42 Sheau has joined #webtv 13:10:56 Chair: 2nd one is the ecosystem to get feedback from community etc. 13:11:26 Mark: agree. Another point is that we also need developer community to be part of it 13:11:31 i'm looking for dial-in now. Sorry for being late. 13:12:01 zakim, code? 13:12:01 the conference code is 932881 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), kaz 13:12:23 thanks kaz 13:12:26 ... when the new capability is developed, we need to integrate the new capability into the test suite 13:12:40 s/.../Chair 13:13:03 + +1.917.693.aabb 13:13:25 Chair: 3rd is to provide one home for all W3C test 13:13:27 zakim, aabb is Sheau 13:13:27 +Sheau; got it 13:13:37 Present+ Seau 13:14:01 Present: Bin, Clarke, Mark, Kaz, Sheau 13:14:08 Chair: #4 is performance measurement 13:14:22 ... several metrics 13:14:40 ... Bryan had several very good comment on it 13:15:07 ... different applications, and performance n each of them 13:15:18 ... to measure the performance more accurately on them 13:15:41 ... people general agree to do performance measurement 13:15:50 ... but we need more specifics 13:16:03 ... anyone else has anything on them? 13:19:52 Chair: next one is the testing of various codecs and encoding schemes,e.g. adaptive bit rate 13:20:33 ... another one from MSE is the synchronization, e.g. adaptive bit rate from different sources, 13:21:22 ... such as ad insertion, to synchronize the different streams (advertising and normal video) 13:21:50 ... and feedback mechanism to let you know the switch of blocks there 13:22:44 s/Chair:/Clarke:/ 13:22:54 ... in the test tool, it might mean the network traffic 13:23:01 s/Chair:/Clarke:/g 13:24:25 ... another one is different encryption 13:24:38 Mark: you mean the CDM ones? 13:25:38 ... the tricky part is that you cannot use clear key to test 13:25:57 ... W3C needs to rely on 3rd party plug-ins 13:27:30 Sheau: let's assume 2 browsers running concurrently, and use the same stream 13:28:10 Clarke: that's a different requirement: 2nd screen, 2 CDMs on 2 different browsers, on 2 different device even 13:28:46 ... thinking if it is an application issue, or needs to be taken of inside spec 13:29:22 It may two browsers, two separate streams, both using different CDMs. 13:29:35 ... recognize it is really an issue, but not sure if it is app issue. Not convinced yet. But will write down this issue 13:30:18 TOPIC: new use cases and new requirement 13:30:41 Clarke: maybe the synchronization of 2 screens 13:31:20 ... what about continuous streams 13:32:31 Sheau: maybe mapping to 2nd sreen / 2nd browsers, the continuous stream issue will pop up 13:33:21 Clarke: Sheau, can you take those 2 issues, and add to the use case page, we can extract the necessary requirement from it 13:33:26 action: Sheau to update the IG wiki with his use cases 13:33:26 Created ACTION-110 - Update the IG wiki with his use cases [on Sheau Ng - due 2013-04-24]. 13:33:48 Clarke: this will be action item. kaz creates an action item 13:37:20 Bin briefed the testing meeting last time, and will send to the mailing list the information of next meeting on Friday, and the link to slides of last meeting 13:37:42 ... new slides of Friday's meeting probably won't be available until the start of meeting on Friday 13:38:10 Clarke: AOB? 13:38:34 ... for next meeting, we take the requrement that we discussed, and put them into our requirement document. 13:38:57 ... we can review what's going on of Friday's meeting of general testing group 13:39:14 ... that's general agenda next CC 13:39:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:39:27 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz 13:39:28 Your are welcome 13:40:06 -Mark_Vickers 13:40:07 -Sheau 13:40:08 -Clarke 13:40:09 [ adjourned ] 13:40:09 -Bin_Hu 13:40:16 Thanks for scribing , Bin 13:40:20 -Kazuyuki 13:40:20 UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM has ended 13:40:20 Attendees were Bin_Hu, +1.303.730.aaaa, Mark_Vickers, Kazuyuki, Clarke, +1.917.693.aabb, Sheau 13:40:29 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:40:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz 13:40:31 Your are welcome, Clarke 14:02:18 Clarke has joined #webtv 14:27:18 kaz has joined #webtv 15:33:50 Zakim has left #webtv 15:45:30 glenn has joined #webtv 15:49:50 glenn has joined #webtv