IRC log of wai-wcag on 2013-03-14

Timestamps are in UTC.

19:56:40 [RRSAgent]
RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag
19:56:40 [RRSAgent]
logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/03/14-wai-wcag-irc
19:56:42 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs public
19:56:42 [Zakim]
Zakim has joined #wai-wcag
19:56:44 [trackbot]
Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:56:45 [trackbot]
Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
19:56:45 [trackbot]
Date: 14 March 2013
19:56:45 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
19:59:36 [marcjohlic]
marcjohlic has joined #wai-wcag
19:59:41 [Zakim]
WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:59:48 [Zakim]
+??P1
19:59:49 [MichaelC]
zakim, ??P1 is Michael_Cooper
19:59:49 [Zakim]
+Michael_Cooper; got it
20:00:04 [Zakim]
+Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:01:58 [Zakim]
+Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:02:13 [Zakim]
+[Adobe]
20:02:22 [MichaelC]
zakim, Adobe is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:02:22 [Zakim]
+Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it
20:02:32 [Zakim]
+[Microsoft]
20:02:35 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey
20:02:38 [kathy]
kathy has joined #wai-wcag
20:02:48 [MichaelC]
zakim, Microsoft is Cherie_Eckholm
20:02:48 [Zakim]
+Cherie_Eckholm; got it
20:03:05 [Zakim]
+ +1.978.443.aaaa
20:03:21 [MichaelC]
zakim, aaaa is Kathy_Wahlbin
20:03:21 [Zakim]
+Kathy_Wahlbin; got it
20:03:29 [Loretta]
Loretta has joined #WAI-WCAG
20:04:01 [Zakim]
+ +1.650.253.aabb
20:04:18 [Loretta]
zakim, +1 is Loretta
20:04:18 [Zakim]
+Loretta; got it
20:05:25 [Loretta]
zakim, who is here?
20:05:25 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Michael_Cooper, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Cherie_Eckholm, Bruce_Bailey, Kathy_Wahlbin, Loretta
20:05:27 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Loretta, kathy, marcjohlic, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, trackbot
20:06:18 [Zakim]
+Marc_Johlic
20:07:45 [AWK]
AWK has joined #wai-wcag
20:12:35 [GreggVan]
GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag
20:13:05 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
20:13:22 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey
20:13:57 [marcjohlic]
scribe: marcjohlic
20:17:24 [marcjohlic]
BB: Board voted to approve the 508 NPRM rule text
20:19:11 [marcjohlic]
BB: BB: Rule text, Preamble, and regulatory impact - hoping to get all of this over to OMB - no date at this point.
20:24:05 [marcjohlic]
s/BB: BB:/BB:
20:25:24 [Loretta]
I just wish that *I* could figure out how all the new UIs work...
20:27:57 [marcjohlic]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130314misc/?
20:28:02 [MichaelC]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130314misc/results
20:28:18 [marcjohlic]
TOPIC: LC-2722, LC-2733 : How to Meet WCAG 2.0: Sufficient Techniques for 1.1.1 – Non-text Content
20:31:49 [MichaelC]
* General Tech
20:31:49 [MichaelC]
** list of techs
20:31:52 [MichaelC]
--
20:31:55 [MichaelC]
* General
20:31:59 [MichaelC]
list of techs
20:36:04 [Loretta]
q+
20:36:11 [MichaelC]
q+
20:37:35 [MichaelC]
ack l
20:38:20 [MichaelC]
ack me
20:39:20 [adam_solomon]
adam_solomon has joined #wai-wcag
20:39:24 [Zakim]
+??P6
20:39:48 [adam_solomon]
zakim, P6 is adam_solomon
20:39:48 [Zakim]
sorry, adam_solomon, I do not recognize a party named 'P6'
20:39:51 [MichaelC]
zakim, ??P6 is Adam_Solomon
20:39:51 [Zakim]
+Adam_Solomon; got it
20:40:16 [MichaelC]
Notes for editing 1.1.1:
20:40:25 [MichaelC]
- put the lists of techniques at the bottom of each situation
20:40:30 [MichaelC]
- give them unique IDs and titles
20:40:45 [MichaelC]
- link to to them from the places where it says ¨from the list below¨
20:41:07 [MichaelC]
- otherwise looks like the proposal
20:43:06 [Loretta]
To see the current version of this page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/text-equiv-all.html
20:48:55 [marcjohlic]
RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
20:49:06 [MichaelC]
version to migrate: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/index.php?title=Restructuring_Understanding_1.1.1&oldid=2022
20:49:22 [marcjohlic]
TOPIC: Approve draft of Understanding WCAG 2.0 for public review?
20:53:52 [Zakim]
+David_MacDonald
20:54:35 [marcjohlic]
Accepted Greg's proposed changes.
20:58:10 [David]
David has joined #wai-wcag
21:01:57 [GreggVan]
However, it is not necessary to use these particular techniques. Any techniques used, whether published by the WCAG group or developed independently, can be used if a) they satisfy the Success Criterion and b) if all of the WCAG 2.0 conformance requirementshave been met.
21:02:06 [Loretta]
Michael, note missing space between requirements and have.
21:02:45 [GreggVan]
However, it is not necessary to use these particular techniques. Any techniques, whether published by the WCAG group or developed independently, can be sufficient if a) they satisfy the Success Criterion and b) if all of the WCAG 2.0 conformance requirementshave been met.
21:03:21 [Loretta]
I like that.
21:04:45 [GreggVan]
However, it is not necessary to use these particular techniques. Any techniques, whether published by the WCAG group or not, can be sufficient if a) they satisfy the Success Criterion and b) if all of the WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements have been met.
21:05:26 [Zakim]
-Kathy_Wahlbin
21:05:55 [Loretta]
Each numbered item in this section represents a technique or combination of techniques that the WCAG Working Group deems sufficient for meeting this Success Criterion.
21:06:30 [GreggVan]
Each numbered item in this section represents a technique or combination of techniques that the WCAG Working Group deems sufficient for meeting this Success Criterion. [begin change]However, it is not necessary to use these particular techniques. Any techniques used only satisfy the Success Criterion if all of the WCAG 2.0 conformance requirementshave been met.[end change]
21:08:59 [marcjohlic]
RESOLUTION: Publish this version of Understanding Document with propsed changes as Public Draft for review / comments
21:09:14 [marcjohlic]
TOPIC: Approve draft of WCAG Techniques for public review?
21:09:33 [marcjohlic]
Greg's proposed change accepted
21:11:07 [Zakim]
-Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:11:47 [Zakim]
+ +1.617.584.aacc
21:15:27 [MichaelC]
zakim, aacc is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:15:27 [Zakim]
+Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it
21:18:14 [marcjohlic]
RESOLUTION: Publish techniques document as amended for public review / comments.
21:21:57 [Loretta]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/FINAL4SC/results
21:22:33 [GreggVan]
CHANGE TO BE MADE TO THE "INTENT" OF 3.2.4 IN UNDERSTANDING WCAG 2.0 "If there are 2 components on a web page that both have the same functionality as a component on another page in a set of web pages, then all 3 must be consistent. Hence the 2 on the same page will be consistent. While it is desirable and best practice always to be consistent within a single web page, 3.2.4 only addresses consistency within a set of web pages where something is r[CUT]
21:23:03 [marcjohlic]
TOPIC: Enabling broader participation in WCAG
21:23:19 [marcjohlic]
Teleconference time / Challenges of global participation
21:37:55 [GreggVan]
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/meeting-planner-times.aspx?&L0=US-IL&L1=GB&L2=CH&L3=GR&L4=JP&Day=21&Mon=6&Y=2011
21:42:16 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
21:44:36 [Zakim]
-Adam_Solomon
21:44:44 [Zakim]
-Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:44:48 [Zakim]
-Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:44:49 [Zakim]
-Loretta
21:44:49 [Zakim]
-Michael_Cooper
21:44:50 [Zakim]
-David_MacDonald
21:44:52 [Zakim]
-Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:44:54 [Zakim]
-Cherie_Eckholm
21:44:56 [Zakim]
-Marc_Johlic
21:44:58 [Zakim]
WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:44:58 [Zakim]
Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Bruce_Bailey, Cherie_Eckholm, +1.978.443.aaaa, Kathy_Wahlbin, +1.650.253.aabb, Loretta,
21:44:58 [Zakim]
... Marc_Johlic, Adam_Solomon, David_MacDonald, +1.617.584.aacc
21:49:03 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, make minutes
21:49:03 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
23:36:17 [Zakim]
Zakim has left #wai-wcag