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14:35:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
14:35:55 <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2013
14:36:03 <Steven> CHair: Steven
14:36:06 <Steven> Regrets: None
14:36:10 <Steven> s/CH/Ch/
14:36:43 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2013Mar/0006
14:36:52 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2013Mar/0006
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15:00:30 <Zakim> +??P4
15:00:32 <Zakim> +??P3
15:00:43 <Steven> zakim, I am ??P4
15:00:43 <Zakim> +Steven; got it
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15:02:05 <nvdbleek> zakim, who is here?
15:02:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P3, Steven, [IPcaller]
15:02:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see nvdbleek, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, alain, trackbot
15:02:14 <alain> Zakim, I am [IPcaller]
15:02:14 <Zakim> ok, alain, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
15:02:21 <nvdbleek> zakim, I am ??P3
15:02:21 <Zakim> +nvdbleek; got it
15:04:28 <Steven> Regrets: Uli
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15:07:03 <nvdbleek> Topic: Reminder - Call times this week and next
15:07:15 <nvdbleek> Steven: next week the call is one hour earlier
15:07:20 <nvdbleek> Topic: www2013
15:07:34 <nvdbleek> Steven: I've got a tutorial accepted on XForms
15:07:41 <Steven> Topic: textarea/@mediatype
15:07:41 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2013Feb/0002.html
15:07:52 <nvdbleek> Topic: textarea/@mediatype
15:08:45 <nvdbleek> nvdbleek: Don't we already have it?
15:08:56 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: We only have it on xf:output
15:09:03 <nvdbleek> Steven: I'm ok with it
15:09:15 <nvdbleek> nvdbleek: Most implementations already support it I think
15:10:19 <nvdbleek> Steven: Would we include an xhtml media type to
15:10:36 <nvdbleek> nvdbleek: Don't we just need to add the media type attribute
15:12:11 <nvdbleek> nvdbleek: If you have another host-language it might not make sense to require html as a media type attribute
15:12:46 <nvdbleek> nvdbleek: e.g. ODT might want to use ODT but not html
15:13:33 <nvdbleek> Steven: We can do this by the wording should or may it shouldn't be a must
15:13:53 <nvdbleek> alain: I think it should be specified at the data level, not on the control
15:14:18 <nvdbleek> alain: in my implementation you have to define a type in a schema
15:15:20 <nvdbleek> Steven: Would you like to send your proposal to us, before we make a decision?
15:15:44 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: Not all control types are specified by data types
15:16:23 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: we could have both (in the model and on the control)
15:16:31 <alain>       <schema xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" targetNamespace="http://www.agencexml.com/xsltforms/rte">
15:16:31 <alain>         <simpleType name="standardHTML">
15:16:31 <alain>           <restriction base="xsd:string" xsltforms:rte="TinyMCE"/>
15:16:31 <alain>           <annotation>
15:16:31 <alain>             <appinfo>
15:16:31 <alain> 				{
15:16:31 <alain> 					theme : "advanced",
15:16:32 <alain> 					skin : "o2k7",
15:16:32 <alain> 					plugins : "lists",
15:16:32 <alain> 					theme_advanced_buttons1 : ",bold,italic,underline,strikethrough,",
15:16:33 <alain> 					theme_advanced_buttons2 : "",
15:16:33 <alain> 					theme_advanced_buttons3 : "",
15:16:33 <alain> 				}
15:16:34 <alain> 			</appinfo>
15:16:34 <alain>           </annotation>
15:16:34 <alain>         </simpleType>
15:16:35 <nvdbleek> Steven: what is the type
15:16:35 <alain>       </schema>
15:17:02 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: It is stored as text
15:17:38 <nvdbleek> nvdbleek: The spec doesn't allow controls to be bound to complex content, so you have to serialise it to a string
15:18:52 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_textarea_Element
15:19:09 <nvdbleek> Steven: if it a string then a type on the model doesn't looks the correct solution. Then it is more an input mode. xg:input already has this
15:20:12 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: Is anybody already using this to create a rich text control
15:20:21 <nvdbleek> Steven: There is no value for it yet
15:21:00 <nvdbleek> alain: You want to specify the features you want to allow
15:21:52 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: An implementation needs to have a way to configure this. But I don't think we can standardise this yet?
15:22:21 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: an html capture control is something we can standardise this
15:23:08 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: in HTML5 they have e-mail, number,… to configure the type of keyboard on mobile
15:23:35 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: We generate those types based on the data type of the instance
15:24:22 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: for html we don't have a type so we can't do that yet
15:24:49 <nvdbleek> nvdbleek: we could create a tagging type to signal that we want to capture HTML
15:25:07 <Steven>   Topic: The function Element
15:25:07 <Steven> (Erik to propose syntax)
15:25:07 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2013Jan/0028.html
15:25:10 <nvdbleek> Steven: Alain could you send in examples of how you implement it?
15:25:54 <nvdbleek> Steven: Erik you have an action item on this
15:26:01 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: I haven't done it yet
15:26:27 <nvdbleek> Steven: can we give you deadline, let say next week for this?
15:26:41 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: yes, I will do
15:26:51 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: We discussed this a bit last week
15:27:12 <nvdbleek> ebruchez: and we were thinking of making the syntax lighter
15:28:41 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Xforms-action-error
15:28:55 <nvdbleek> nvdbleek: please read this and comment on it by next week
15:29:05 <Zakim> -Steven
15:29:07 <Zakim> -ebruchez
15:29:09 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:29:28 <Steven> zakim, who is on the call?
15:29:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see nvdbleek
15:29:32 <Steven> zakim, drop n
15:29:32 <Zakim> nvdbleek is being disconnected
15:29:34 <Zakim> IA_XForms()11:00AM has ended
15:29:34 <Zakim> Attendees were Steven, [IPcaller], nvdbleek, ebruchez
15:29:45 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:29:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/13-forms-minutes.html Steven
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