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18:52:55 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
18:52:55 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
18:53:00 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU
18:53:17 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2013JanMar/0052.html
18:53:28 <Jan> Chair: Jutta Treviranus
18:54:39 <Jan> Regrets: Cherie E, Alex Li (likely)
18:59:38 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
18:59:45 <Zakim> +Jeanne
19:00:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
19:01:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
19:01:57 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is really Jan
19:01:58 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
19:02:09 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jutta
19:02:09 <Zakim> +Jutta; got it
19:03:21 <Zakim> -Jeanne
19:03:55 <Zakim> +Jeanne
19:11:20 <jeanne> jeanne has joined #au
19:12:19 <Zakim> + +1.571.765.aaaa
19:12:39 <Jan> zakim, aaaa is really Greg
19:12:39 <Zakim> +Greg; got it
19:15:20 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
19:15:40 <Jan> scribe: Jan
19:16:15 <Jan> Topic: TPAC idea
19:16:36 <Jan> JS: WCAG is now a 4 host org...should added a University in China
19:17:01 <Jan> JS: Next years TPAC will be in Shenzhen China
19:17:10 <Jan> JS: In early Nov.
19:17:24 <Jan> JS: We are asking a little early
19:17:43 <Jan> JT: Any other accessibility working groups to be there?
19:17:47 <Jan> JS: Yes
19:18:05 <Jan> JS: Plus we are expecting 200+ local developers to attend.
19:18:25 <Jan> JS: PF, WCAG, EO to meet there.
19:18:39 <Jan> JS: Also trying to have UA meet there.
19:18:51 <Jan> JT: Should we have a meeting there?
19:19:30 <Jan> GP: I know they are not part of this working group, there will be some other Adobe folks there....but I may not be able to attend.
19:19:46 <Jan> TB: Sounds like good meeting, but will have to check budgetr
19:20:24 <Jan> JT: Is a WG meeting the only mechanism?... what about having an education and outrach type activity?
19:20:47 <Jan> JS: Yes that's possible ... I sent an idea like that for UAAG to Judy
19:21:35 <Jan> JS: EO will be holding open meeting...we are thinking the same for UA
19:22:41 <Jan> TB: Idea might be to channel our activities through the EO group.
19:23:01 <Jan> TB: Would look good to have all the groups' work prersented together
19:23:15 <Jan> JT: When do we need to formulate a response?
19:23:24 <Jan> JS: Need rough idea this week.
19:23:50 <Jan> JS: We need to start the fund raising
19:24:32 <Jan> JT: Do we want to hold a meeting there?
19:25:32 <Jan> JR: It does seem like many WAI groups are meeting there
19:26:04 <Jan> JT: I feel like whatever we do there....there should be outreach activities
19:26:44 <Jan> JS: Most of the other WGs will be lightly attended...and focussed on outreach
19:27:28 <Jan> JS: A 9am meeting in Shenshen is 8pm eastern time...5pm West Coast
19:27:57 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
19:28:44 <Jan> JS: Will be testing at that time
19:29:02 <Jan> JT: We have had a number of potential Chinese members, who just can't make it
19:29:33 <Jan> to our usual call
19:30:50 <Jan> JT: Tentative conclusion is that we will have some presence there...some kind of outreach...
19:31:03 <Jan> JR: So perhaps a few of our members would attend in person...
19:31:39 <Jan> JR: Would run outreach activities there...and also on a couple of day 9am-noon (8pm-11pm ET) WG meetings
19:31:48 <Jan> JT: Yes
19:32:16 <Jan> JT: How do we get onto the plenary presentation agenda?
19:32:29 <Jan> JS: Harder....in recent years its been an unconference
19:32:40 <Jan> JS: In advance there has been a topic wiki
19:33:05 <Jan> JS: Not sure if they will do that in China
19:33:41 <Jan> JT: Please investigate how we get onto the Wed plenary agenda
19:33:45 <Jan> JS: OK
19:34:01 <jeanne> action: Jeanne to investigate how to get an ATAG presentation on the Wednesday plenary agenda.
19:34:09 <trackbot> Error creating new action - could not connect to Tracker. Please contact sysreq with the details of what happened.
19:34:18 <Jan> Topic: 1. Re-chartering survey results:
19:34:31 <Jan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20130301/results
19:35:08 <Jan> zakim, who's making noise
19:35:08 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's making noise', Jan
19:35:12 <Jan> zakim, who's making noise?
19:35:23 <Zakim> Jan, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jutta (9%), Greg (33%)
19:37:13 <jeanne> Resolution: In the new charter, remove the dependency on WCAG and UAAG.
19:39:17 <Jan> Resolution: Agree on 4 weeks to finalize tests
19:42:40 <Jan> Milestone for Proposed Recommendation - Part 1: Assembling Implementation List: 2 months
19:42:47 <Jan> Milestone for Proposed Recommendation - Part 2: Testing the products
19:49:30 <Jan> Discussion of numbers of tools required for CR
19:49:48 <Jan> JR prefers less tools
19:50:19 <Jan> JT: So for last milestone...you were thinking much more time?
19:50:48 <Jan> JR: Figure of a year came up
19:51:10 <Jan> JS: I don't want that, but ARIA has been testing for almost 2 years
19:51:35 <Jan> JS: WCAG testing ...was it a year?
19:51:39 <Jan> JT: At least
19:52:12 <Jan> JS: One major thing is that we've already written the tests
19:52:48 <Jan> JT: Can we move faster than the milestone?
19:52:53 <Jan> JS: Would be ok
19:53:04 <Jan> JT: OK, so why don't we go with a year here
19:53:09 <Jan> JS: ok
19:53:14 <Jan> GP: OK
19:53:17 <Jan> JR: OK
19:54:25 <Zakim> -Greg
19:54:41 <jeanne> zakim, who is here?
19:54:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jutta, Jan, Jeanne
19:54:42 <Jan> JT: I will be sending a msg out re: final approval of the tests
19:54:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, trackbot
19:59:27 <Zakim> -Jutta
19:59:28 <Zakim> -Jeanne
19:59:29 <Zakim> -Jan
19:59:31 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
19:59:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, Jutta, +1.571.765.aaaa, Greg, Tim_Boland
19:59:41 <Jan> RRSAgent, make minutes
19:59:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/11-au-minutes.html Jan
19:59:50 <Jan> RRSAgent, set logs public
19:59:57 <Jan> Zakim, bye
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20:00:02 <Jan> RRSAgent, bye
20:00:02 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/03/11-au-actions.rdf :
20:00:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeanne to investigate how to get an ATAG presentation on the Wednesday plenary agenda. [1]
20:00:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/03/11-au-irc#T19-34-01
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20:21:50 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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20:21:52 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be AUWG
20:21:52 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 81 minutes ago
20:21:53 <trackbot> Meeting: Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
20:21:53 <trackbot> Date: 11 March 2013
20:22:34 <jeanne> trackbot, bye
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20:22:49 <jeanne> rrsagent, bye
20:22:49 <RRSAgent> I see no action items