eGov IG (Atlantic)

08 Mar 2013


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Jeanne_Holm: Welcome. Topic today is open data

<PhilA> http://www.w3.org/community/opengov/

<DanielBennett> joined it. thanks.

Government Online, Johanna Pimiento Quintero, Ministry of ICT, Colombia

<PhilA> -> Johanna's presentation http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/1/1b/Open_Data_Initiative_Colombia_20130304.pdf

Presenter: Johanna Pimiento Quintero, Ministry of ICT, Colombia

<Jeanne_Holm> PhilA: The open gov community group will be a great addition to our W3C family.

Johanna speaking on Columbia's Open Data Initiative

4 parts: efficiency and collaboration; transparency; citizen participation; competitiveness and quality of life

<PhilA> We're on slide 4

Surveyed citizens; they want education, health, utilities and employment services

Developed a framework defining: strategic, tactical, operational, and support levels; also identified stakeholders and consumers of services

<Gwyn_S> slide 11 very interesting

Plotted a roadmap of tasks to complete from 2012 through 2015, covering initial, basic, advanced and improved implementation

<Jeanne_Holm> Johanna--are you still there?

Publication lifecycle includes: Identify, Analyze, Prioritize, Structure, Publish, Exploit

[Johanna's connection dropped]

Pierre Andrews, University of S�o Paulo, Brazil

<PhilA> -> Pierre's slides http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/1/1e/USP-EGOV-Automatic-Citizen.pdf

Pierre's presentation entitled "Parliamentary Transparency - Not Only a Data Challenge"

Many countries legislating transparency laws

Brazil is focusing on parliamentary process (representatives, what they do, what they vote on)

Many are proactively opening data

Issues around data distribution include no standard format, expensive process, difficulty in procuring data

Pierre_Andrews: Citizens don't care about format or legislative process
... transparency should enable citizens, need to find ways around technical challenges
... Automatic Citizen project enables public participation by allowing citizens to vote on public projects
... gauge citizen preferences on which topics are most important to them

<DanielBennett> Issues to consider. Government provides non-editorial version of data. Leave it to the NGOs, partidos/parties, media to add their own metadata, applications, opinions, etc.

Pierre_Andrews: Efforts underway to explain projects in plain language, to make complicated legal jargon understandable to citizens
... Focus on filtering out projects that citizens care most about
... Use standard natural language processing techniques

<DanielBennett> Be aware of effort to develop a standard for legislative documents, which may help with downstream applications (and for some jurisdictions an XSLT into LegalDocML will allow for easier comparison and applications).

<DanielBennett> https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/legaldocml

Pierre_Andrews: too many laws; uninteresting laws; how to differentiate between strong support for/against, and automate
... Challenges: understand citizen needs; access to data; make it machine-readable and valuable to citizens; make members of parliament use the computer systems
... Key is to learn what's important to citizens
... Issues getting citizens to participate and tell parliament what they want

DanielBennett: discussing OASIS LegalDocumentML
... explaining how US Govt official record only contains specifics "on the record" and other groups supplement w/dialogue, discussion

<DanielBennett> please mute if you are not talking. thanks

Pierre_Andrews: discussing ways for moderators to connect citizens and parliament; people on both sides may not have technical skills to use online tools

<PhilA> ack

<PhilA> Participating http://www.w3.org/2012/06/pmod/report#publicEng

PhilA: 5 stars of open data

Thank you Pierre

<DanielBennett> http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2012/01/21/5-stars-of-open-data-engagement/

Johanna back online, continuing w/her presentation now

Johanne: reviewing roadmap

Johanna: Basic level includes data identification, pilots and prototypes

Correction: Initial level (2012) includes data identification, pilots and prototypes

Johanna: Basic level 2013 includes analysis and release of data
... Advanced level (2014) includes quality assurance, collaboration
... Improved level (2015) includes sustainability, impact assessment
... Opening circle: inventory, analysis, prioritize, add metadata to structure, publish, incentivize
... Achievements include data catalogue http://www.datos.gov.co/
... Apps store http://www.aplicaciones.gov.co/ (64 apps, 21 using open data)

<PhilA> It was actually the Web Foundation that published the Open data Index. See http://www.webfoundation.org/2012/09/introducing-the-open-data-index/

<PhilA> W3C and the Web Foundation are both TimBL's organisations but they're quite separate

Johanna: more work to be done; addressing emerging barriers such as legal framework, business models, incentives

<DanielBennett> time for 3rd presentation?

Johanna: goals for this year include conducting hackathons, reaching goal of 100 apps for social services, training, releasing data most-requested by citizens, encouraging 3rd-party use
... solutions need to balance citizen needs w/agency services
... big challenge is agency fear of losing control of data, including legal concerns and motives of 3rd parties

Lessons From International Open Data Day in Accra, Edwin Opare Ghana OD initiative

<PhilA> -> Edwin's slides http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/f/f2/Accra-Hackathon.pdf

Ghana Open Data Day 2013 http://wiki.opendataday.org/Accra2013

Edwin_Opare: Works for Ghana govt office responsible for implementing open data initiative
... Their vision: develop an open data community bringing together government, civil society organizations, media practitioners, developers, academia and citizenry to interact with one another through an open data portal with the view to provide valuable feedback to government
... GODI - Ghana Open Data Initiative
... Objectives include central platform for data access, building community, promote discourse, promote govt efficiency, transparency and accountability
... building open data ecosystem
... Ecosystem - community input supports decision-making to reach executive buy-in
... conducted Hackathon last month, major goal

<PhilA> Sounds like a great event

Edwin_Opare: over 70 people attended, 20% women

<Jeanne_Holm> If everyone can just stay on a few more minutes we'll be able to let Edwin finish his presentation. I appreciate the accommodation.

Edwin_Opare: participants discussed Internet connectivity, data visualization, scraping

<Jeanne_Holm> Edwin_Opare: Brainstorming session was guided by online form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1M-wX8oiM4X2Hb1gDkJO1ccS08QQfvJ-c3nOt3o76X4Y/viewform

Edwin_Opare: organizers had many lessons learned to carry forward to future events

<Jeanne_Holm> Edwin_Opare: Photos from the Ghana Open Data day are at https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.302192333240954.66968.159635814163274&type=1

Edwin_Opare: ...including needing more coffee!
... transparent brainstorming and voting sessions
... participants had great ideas, but they did not have access to the data to support them
... 14 ideas proposed, accepted 6 of them to work on

<PhilA> I don't have a question but it's obvious that Ghana is having a lot of success

<PhilA> which is very encouraging

<Pierre_Andrews> very cool event

<Pierre_Andrews> well don

<Gwyn_S> I have a question

Jeanne_Holm: plans for the future?

Edwin_Opare: planning "open Friday" to have all stakeholders meet the last Friday of each month

<PhilA> Edwin_Opare: Planning events on the last Friday of every month

Gwyn_S: RE addressing technical problems in recent elections, are you working on solutions to address those?

<PhilA> did you get that Edwin_Opare?

Edwin_Opare: not allowed to work in this area since there are open court cases ongoing

<DanielBennett> thanks to all the presenters.

<DanielBennett> bye all

<PhilA> apologies to Edwin_Opare For muting your line but we get a lot of echo when you;re online

<Pierre_Andrews> thanks

Jeanne_Holm: Thanks to Johanna, Pierre and Edwin for your fascinating presentations!

<Gwyn_S> thanks presenters. really interesting

<KevinSimkins> Thanks to all speaker s and host. Always learning at every session I virtually attend. :)

<GannonDick> bye

<PhilA> thanks bye all

<bdhandspicker> bye