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17:59:56 <clown> zakim, what conferences?
17:59:56 <Zakim> I see Team_(digpub)17:09Z, WAI_UAWG()1:00PM, XML_XSLWG()12:00PM active
17:59:58 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are HTML_WG()12:00PM, WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM, T&S_Track(editors)1:00PM, SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, TAG_Weekly()1:00PM, RWC_Audio()12:00PM
18:00:12 <clown> zakim, this will be aapi
18:00:12 <Zakim> ok, clown; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM scheduled to start now
18:00:24 <clown> zakim, what conference is this?
18:00:24 <Zakim> this will be WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM conference code 2274, clown
18:00:33 <clown> zakim, this is aapi
18:00:33 <Zakim> clown, I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be aapi".
18:00:45 <clown> trackbot, start meeting
18:00:47 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs member
18:00:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
18:00:50 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM scheduled to start now
18:00:50 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
18:00:50 <trackbot> Date: 07 March 2013
18:01:07 <clown> RRSAgent, make logs public
18:01:24 <clown> zakim, what conference it this?
18:01:24 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, clown.
18:01:39 <clown> zakim, what conference is this?
18:01:39 <Zakim> this will be WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM conference code 2274, clown
18:02:49 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM has now started
18:02:56 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
18:03:14 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:03:14 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
18:03:22 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:03:22 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:03:31 <clown> regrets:  David_Bolter
18:03:42 <clown> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Mar/0017.html
18:03:55 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:03:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:04:25 <clown> chair:  Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:04:28 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:04:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:07:09 <clown> Topic:  ACTION-1173
18:07:13 <clown> acction-1173?
18:07:19 <clown> action-1173?
18:07:19 <trackbot> ACTION-1173 -- Cynthia Shelly to provide reason to not remove text about mapping aria-level to accValue in "MSAA + IAccessible2" column -- due 2013-03-13 -- OPEN
18:07:19 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1173
18:11:44 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
18:13:50 <clown> Topic:  ISSUE-550
18:13:54 <clown> issue-550?
18:13:54 <trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
18:13:54 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
18:14:12 <clown> CS:  when are these issues supposed to be resolved?  By tomorrow?
18:14:27 <clown> JS:  Technically by the end of the week, so let's say by Monday.
18:15:00 <clown> Topic:  bug 29772
18:16:31 <clown> s/29772/19780
18:16:37 <clown> s/29772/19780/
18:16:53 <clown> CS:  that bugzilla is finished.  Joseph just needs to make the edits.
18:17:06 <clown> JS:  okay, I'll add that to my editing stack.
18:17:20 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19780
18:17:37 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19772#c3
18:17:43 <clown> Topic:  19772
18:18:31 <clown> CS:  I see Alex has added a comment.  I need to look at that.
18:18:52 <clown> CS:  If I agree, I'll just close it.  If not, then we need more discussions.
18:19:43 <clown> CS:  of the rest, the only one that is difficult is the drop effect.  So, I should get the rest done by Monday.
18:19:57 <clown> Topic:  action-1173
18:20:00 <clown> action-1173?
18:20:00 <trackbot> ACTION-1173 -- Cynthia Shelly to provide reason to not remove text about mapping aria-level to accValue in "MSAA + IAccessible2" column -- due 2013-03-13 -- OPEN
18:20:00 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1173
18:20:11 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state-property_table
18:21:44 <clown> CS:  that's fine, we can remove that text since it doesnt affect UIA.
18:22:16 <clown> resolved:  remove text about mapping aria-level to MSAA accValue in the MSAA+IA2 column of UAIG.
18:23:02 <clown> JS:  Okay, I'll assign the action to myself to make the edit.
18:23:24 <clown> Topic:  ACTION-1171
18:23:28 <clown> Action-1171?
18:23:28 <trackbot> ACTION-1171 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to look into literal mapping of "undefined" values, find out which need exception, and propose edit. -- due 2013-03-04 -- OPEN
18:23:28 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1171
18:24:00 <clown> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2013JanMar/0315.html
18:26:11 <clown> For computational efficiency, user agents MAY expose the state or property value if doing so is equivalent to not mapping it.
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18:26:55 <clown> "For computational efficiency, user agents MAY expose the state or property value if doing so is equivalent to not mapping it."
18:30:05 <clown> CS:  we were defining "not mapped" strictly as setting something in the API.  Not object properties.  They are just a string.
18:30:10 <clown> CS:  or a bit bucket.
18:30:23 <clown> CS:  so, you could point to that as a way around this problem.
18:31:57 <clown> ""Not mapped.  Any related selectable state is also not mapped".
18:32:33 <clown> aria-expanded="undefined"
18:34:29 <clown> CS:  what is weird, is where an attribute was there, but then deleted.  In that case, you have to delete the -able state.
18:34:53 <clown> CS:  maybe we could put an asterisk about that, or a sentence or two somewhere.
18:34:57 <clown> JS:  okay.
18:35:54 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
18:36:04 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:36:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:37:43 <clown> zakim, please part
18:37:43 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Joseph_Scheuhammer, Cynthia_Shelly
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18:37:46 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:37:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:55:36 <clown> rrsagent, please part
18:55:36 <RRSAgent> I see no action items