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15:00:38 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
15:00:38 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started
15:00:39 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
15:00:39 <trackbot> Date: 21 February 2013
15:00:39 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is Hadley
15:00:40 <Zakim> +Hadley; got it
15:00:49 <TallTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:00:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/21-gld-minutes.html TallTed
15:00:50 <Zakim> +??P10
15:00:55 <TallTed> RRSAgent, set logs publibc
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15:01:06 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P10 is me
15:01:06 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
15:01:17 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
15:01:18 <estephan> Estephan is 509..;
15:01:23 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
15:01:23 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
15:01:25 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
15:01:25 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
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15:02:07 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?
15:02:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see Hadley, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, atemezi, +1.509.967.aacc, TallTed (muted)
15:02:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, atemezi, estephan, BenediktKaempgen, Zakim, TallTed, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, trackbot, sandro
15:02:14 <HadleyBeeman> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130221
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15:02:46 <boris> zakim, code
15:02:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', boris
15:02:56 <TallTed> Zakim, code?
15:02:56 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), TallTed
15:02:56 <boris> zakim, code?
15:02:58 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), boris
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15:03:23 <bhyland> zakim, aadd is Biplav
15:03:23 <Zakim> +Biplav; got it
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15:03:33 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
15:03:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see Hadley, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, atemezi, +1.509.967.aacc, TallTed (muted), Biplav, DaveReynolds
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15:04:10 <Zakim> +estephan; got it
15:04:14 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P24 is JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:04:14 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
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15:04:49 <HadleyBeeman> Agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130221
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15:06:18 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
15:06:18 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
15:06:37 <atemezi> Chair: HadleyBeeman
15:06:54 <atemezi> scribe: james
15:06:54 <james> topic: 1.1. Discussion of issues in the critical path: Data Cube
15:07:11 <bhyland> Proposal to accept the http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-02-14.
15:07:14 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
15:07:17 <bhyland> +1
15:07:22 <DaveReynolds> +1
15:07:26 <atemezi> +1
15:07:28 <estephan> +1
15:07:37 <bhyland> many thanks to DaveReynolds for getting us straightened out on Mercurial
15:07:38 <james> resolved: minutes acccepted
15:07:52 <DaveReynolds> no problems
15:07:58 <bhyland> I confirm that I got a clean check out today & have submitted successfully!!
15:08:14 <Zakim> + +34.60.062.aaee
15:08:14 <DaveReynolds> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Feb/0040.html
15:08:18 <james> topic: ORG
15:08:26 <boris> zakim, aaee is me
15:08:26 <Zakim> +boris; got it
15:08:41 <boris> zakim, mute me
15:08:41 <Zakim> boris should now be muted
15:09:14 <james> DaveReynolds: propose to close issue #49
15:09:17 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
15:09:20 <HadleyBeeman> +1
15:09:23 <Zakim> + +3539149aaff
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15:09:27 <sandro> issue-49?
15:09:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-49 -- org:reportsTo is not acyclic -- raised
15:09:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/49
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15:09:47 <estephan> +1
15:10:04 <Biplav> +1
15:10:23 <bhyland> RE: Tracker, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/open
15:11:09 <james> DaveReynolds: ISSUE-42 and ISSUE-50 completed
15:11:11 <atemezi> issue 42 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/42
15:11:20 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here?
15:11:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Hadley, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, atemezi, estephan, TallTed (muted), Biplav, DaveReynolds, JoaoPauloAlmeida, james, tinagheen, boris (muted), +3539149aaff
15:11:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see DeirdreLee, fadmaa, tinagheen, Biplav, james, boris, JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds, RRSAgent, atemezi, estephan, BenediktKaempgen, Zakim, TallTed, HadleyBeeman,
15:11:24 <Zakim> ... bhyland, trackbot, sandro
15:11:37 <fadmaa> Zakim, aaff is DeirdreLee
15:11:37 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee; got it
15:11:45 <fadmaa> Zakim, fadmaa is with DeirdreLee
15:11:45 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
15:12:42 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> that's a good solution
15:13:10 <bhyland> @Hadley - I'm updating these w/ comments to closed
15:13:30 <bhyland> @Hadley, I'm doing it through the tracker forms interface.
15:13:36 <HadleyBeeman> Thanks, bhyland.
15:13:46 <bhyland> @Hadley, there is probably a way to do it thru IRC cmds but I don't know them.
15:14:29 <james> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-51 based on clarifications from mailing list
15:15:28 <Zakim> -atemezi
15:15:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> James, ISSUE-48 should be closed as well, by rolling back the changes
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15:16:03 <estephan> Great!
15:16:10 <Zakim> +MHausenblas
15:16:19 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is me
15:16:19 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
15:16:34 <james> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-48 by making range of org:reportsTo only foaf:Agent, not union of foaf:Agent and org:Post
15:16:59 <Zakim> +Sandro
15:17:13 <Zakim> +atemezi
15:17:34 <estephan> +1
15:17:35 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> James, the solution to ISSUE-48 is not that
15:17:49 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> it is exactly he union that solves the problem
15:17:59 <bhyland> @DaveReynolds, so Issue-45 goes to open from raised stat, correct?
15:18:06 <james> DaveReynolds: closure of ISSUE-45 (remove the range on org:siteAddress) will be postponed while waiting for last bit of feedback
15:19:05 <bhyland> done
15:19:07 <DaveReynolds> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Feb/0041.html
15:19:19 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> James, yes
15:19:20 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:19:43 <james> CORRECTION: ISSUE-48 will be closed, by keeping the range of org:reportsTo as union of foaf:Agent and org:Post
15:19:52 <HadleyBeeman> issue-55?
15:19:52 <trackbot> ISSUE-55 -- Use of prov:wasDerivedFrom -- raised
15:19:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/55
15:19:53 <Zakim> +??P24
15:19:59 <HadleyBeeman> issue-56?
15:20:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Check PROV semantic constraints -- raised
15:20:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/56
15:20:02 <HadleyBeeman> issue-57?
15:20:02 <trackbot> ISSUE-57 -- PROV use of invalidation -- raised
15:20:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/57
15:20:06 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P24 is JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:20:06 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
15:21:23 <bhyland> Topic: issue-55
15:21:53 <bhyland> So issue-55 thru issue-57
15:22:07 <bhyland> go to pending review status.
15:22:10 <james> PROPOSED: send message to PROV WG with GLD's response to the three issues raised during last call
15:24:54 <bhyland> DaveReynolds: people are able to use provO and ORG side by side, but we don't need to do more to spell it out to successfully use them.
15:26:46 <estephan> Yes eric speaking
15:27:15 <estephan> +1
15:27:16 <james> HadleyBeeman: calling for quick vote on draft
15:27:35 <james> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Feb/0048.html
15:27:52 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to sending that text to PROV working group from our working group
15:27:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
15:27:58 <DaveReynolds> Proposed: Proceed with draft message to PROV-O working as drafted at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Feb/0041.html
15:28:07 <Biplav> +1
15:28:27 <HadleyBeeman> issue-58?
15:28:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-58 -- Relate org:Organization to prov:Organization -- raised
15:28:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/58
15:28:30 <TallTed> +1
15:28:39 <DaveReynolds> +1
15:28:46 <atemezi> +1
15:28:49 <james> DaveReynolds: ISSUE-55, ISSUE-56, ISSUE-57 can be closed following positive response from PROV-O
15:29:03 <DaveReynolds> Resolved: Proceed with draft message to PROV-O working as drafted at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Feb/0041.html
15:29:04 <bhyland> s/closed/pending review
15:30:12 <bhyland> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/58/
15:31:09 <james> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/58
15:32:05 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to DaveR approaching PROV-O to resolve the two classes for Organization
15:32:10 <james> DaveReynolds: approach PROV-O WG to determine whether owl:equivalentClass or rdfs:subClassOf is more appropriate for relating org:Organization to prov:Organization
15:32:26 <atemezi> +1
15:32:31 <estephan> +1
15:32:39 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
15:32:41 <james> Topic: 1.1 Data Cube
15:32:54 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Dave: prov also does not make explicit the relation to foaf
15:33:06 <james> Topic: 1.4 Best Practices
15:33:20 <HadleyBeeman> cygri, are you still here?
15:33:22 <HadleyBeeman> Ah, good
15:33:36 <james> Topic: 1.1 Data Cube
15:33:43 <DaveReynolds> JoaoPauloAlmeida agreed.
15:35:03 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:35:19 <Zakim> +??P24
15:35:25 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P24 is me
15:35:25 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
15:35:47 <james> DaveReynolds: going through issues at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/3
15:36:17 <bhyland> See DCAT open issues: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/open
15:36:32 <bhyland> s/DCAT/Cube
15:37:33 <james> cygri: discussing whether or not to go ahead with ISSUE-37
15:38:18 <james> cygri: keen to align Data Cube with the latest changes in SDMX
15:38:34 <james> … but it does make sense to postpone ISSUE-37 in light of priorities from other issues
15:39:12 <james> DaveReynolds: WG should/can target Last Call on Data Cube for mid-March
15:42:58 <atemezi> @cygri: which kind of tasks are needed for upgrading ?
15:43:09 <james> s/mid-March/next week/
15:43:23 <bhyland> Per cygri telecon 21-Feb-2013, going to LC with Data Cube based on SDMX 2.0 would be acceptable.  Cygri would prefer, time permitting SDMX 2.1, would make the quality of the vocab deliverable much better. He guarantee this will happen but will make good faith effort to do so.
15:43:43 <james> s/guarantee/cannot guarantee/
15:44:35 <bhyland> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/37
15:45:49 <bhyland> q?
15:48:18 <boris> zakim, unmute
15:48:18 <Zakim> I don't understand 'unmute', boris
15:48:19 <james> bhyland: would suggest moving agenda item 1.4 Best Practices to next call
15:48:26 <boris> zakim, unmute me
15:48:26 <Zakim> boris should no longer be muted
15:49:12 <cygri> atemezi, what needs to be done is review the changes between SDMX 2.0 and SDMX 2.1 (there's a summary of changes document from the SDMX people), and decide what (if anything) needs to be done about these changes in Data Cube
15:49:21 <bhyland> EU Data Forum 2013 deadline to submit presentations, see http://2013.data-forum.eu/news/european-data-forum-2013-call-contribution
15:49:40 <james> Topic: Working group housekeeping
15:49:50 <cygri> q+
15:49:50 <james> bhyland: reminder about Face-to-Face planning for Galway
15:49:59 <bhyland> Topic: F2F3 - please update what you'd like to do vis a vis deliverables, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3
15:50:04 <HadleyBeeman> ack cygri
15:50:44 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:50:59 <Zakim> +??P24
15:51:01 <DaveReynolds> Note that I'm not going to be f2f, at least not in person.
15:51:09 <bhyland> cygri: Unfortunately timing of F2F3 comes just after the LC deadline per W3C process
15:51:20 <HadleyBeeman> DaveReynolds, are you available for dialing in?
15:51:36 <DaveReynolds> For at least some of the time, yes.
15:51:52 <bhyland> … up to LC deadline, comments can come in.  When over, we have a full picture of what needs to be taken into account.
15:52:50 <atemezi> cygri, thanks. I thought I could help here but it seems to be is more work for someone knowing very well SDMX stuff
15:53:05 <cygri> s/cygri: Unfortunately/cygri: Conveniently/
15:53:39 <bhyland> Suggested: LC deadlines be the 1st day of our F2F3 in Dublin
15:53:54 <bhyland> midnight before F2F3 day #1
15:54:10 <bhyland> That gives us 5 weeks before the end of the WG's charter.
15:54:28 <cygri> ack me
15:54:38 <DeirdreLee> q+
15:54:50 <Zakim> -Biplav
15:54:55 <boris> q+
15:55:08 <HadleyBeeman> ack boris
15:55:12 <HadleyBeeman> ack deirdrelee
15:55:21 <sandro> q+ to mention Last Call cross-group coordination
15:55:44 <HadleyBeeman> ack sandro
15:55:44 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to mention Last Call cross-group coordination
15:55:46 <bhyland> Deirdre reminded everyone that the deadline for presentations is Friday 22-Feb and for exhibits in early March
15:55:48 <cygri> atemezi, i think ISSUE-29 is the other critical one
15:56:31 <bhyland> Sandro: RE: LC - the Internationalization WG likes to review everything for internationalization issues … recommends we give them a heads up.
15:56:53 <bhyland> … advised other groups be given a heads up
15:57:15 <boris> q+ probably trivial question
15:57:17 <james> Sandro: we should notify certain WGs e.g. the internationalization group, of upcoming specs
15:57:31 <sandro> sandro: (and negotate the review schedules)
15:58:32 <Zakim> -Sandro
15:58:32 <atemezi> thanks
15:58:34 <Zakim> -cygri
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15:59:37 <bhyland> @james - do you need help with publishing minutes?  I'm still on line if so but you dropped off...
16:00:04 <bhyland> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:00:10 <bhyland> RRSAgent, generate minutes
16:00:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/21-gld-minutes.html bhyland
16:00:14 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee
16:03:32 <bhyland> These are working … http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-01-24
16:03:43 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/02/21-gld-minutes.html
16:09:28 <HadleyBeeman> Sorry, boris — I've monopolised her :)
16:09:32 <HadleyBeeman> We're nearly done
16:09:43 <Zakim> -Hadley
16:12:46 <Zakim> -boris
16:12:59 <Zakim> -bhyland
16:13:00 <boris> ups
16:13:00 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
16:13:00 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.440.389.aaaa, bhyland, Hadley, +1.509.967.aacc, BenediktKaempgen, TallTed, atemezi, +91.80.67.84.aadd, Biplav, DaveReynolds, estephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, james,
16:13:00 <Zakim> ... tinagheen, +34.60.062.aaee, boris, +3539149aaff, DeirdreLee, fadmaa, cygri, Sandro
16:13:30 <boris> dialin in
16:13:55 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
16:14:00 <bhyland> We only had the line for a bit over an hour ...
16:14:02 <Zakim> +boris
16:14:18 <boris> Bhyland?
16:14:39 <Zakim> -boris
16:14:40 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
16:14:40 <Zakim> Attendees were boris
16:14:48 <bhyland> I have to run  Boris- suffice to say, I'm working on BP and will do consistent updates & commits when done.  Please be careful with your edits & use Mercurial so we don't clobber edits on the same do
16:14:53 <boris> ok, so you take the control of the BP document
16:15:05 <bhyland> bye
16:15:12 <boris> and I don't touch the repository
16:15:12 <boris> pok?
16:15:19 <boris> ok?
16:38:54 <bhyland> Hi Boris
16:38:57 <bhyland> I'm back...
16:38:59 <bhyland> ping
16:41:19 <bhyland> Minutes published for today's meeting, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-02-21
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