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15:01:06 <daveL> Meeting: MLW-lT Phone call: 18 Feb 2013
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15:03:29 <omstefanov> scribe: kfrische
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15:04:33 <daveL> Regret: Felix, Phil
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15:05:14 <daveL> Present: ankit, chrsitian, daveL, dominic, jirka, karl, leroy, marcix, olaf, tadej
15:05:30 <daveL> Present: Yves
15:05:49 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0089.html
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15:06:56 <kfritsche> daveL: going through the agenda
15:07:12 <daveL> topic: minutes from last meeting
15:07:13 <daveL> http://www.w3.org/2013/02/13-mlw-lt-minutes.html
15:08:22 <daveL> topic: Quick feedback on Posters and use cases
15:08:41 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0083.html
15:08:47 <kfritsche> daveL: wed is for poster review
15:08:55 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0084.html
15:09:05 <kfritsche> ... but today only a short review
15:10:18 <kfritsche> chriLi: some edits has already been done
15:10:31 <kfritsche> ... one separated edit by email
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15:11:20 <kfritsche> ... i had the idea to create a glossary/terminology section as separated wiki page
15:11:58 <kfritsche> daveL: this is a good point, we listed some definitions in requirements section
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15:13:13 <kfritsche> chriLi: run a named entity enricher through the wiki page
15:13:28 <chriLi> Run both the Spec. and the Wiki page through both a term candidate recognizer and a named entity recognizer
15:14:10 <kfritsche> daveL: problem could be the wiki markup, how to add the ITS markup there
15:14:18 <chriLi> Drink your own champagne, not eat your own dog food. :-)
15:14:31 <kfritsche> daveL: but basically this is a good idea
15:14:48 <kfritsche> daveL: also we maybe should also add some more ITS markup
15:15:14 <kfritsche> action investigate its markup in wiki to daveL
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15:15:29 <daveL> dlewis6
15:16:05 <daveL> action: dlewis6 to investigate establishing a gloassry for the wiki and including ITS markup on pages
15:16:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-449 - Investigate establishing a gloassry for the wiki and including ITS markup on pages [on David Lewis - due 2013-02-25].
15:16:44 <kfritsche> daveL: anyone has problems with the posters and use cases section?
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15:17:32 <kfritsche> ... look at the mails from chriLi and Felix for additional information for the high level use cases wiki page
15:17:40 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0083.html
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15:18:07 <daveL> Topic: Issue-68
15:18:56 <kfritsche> tadej: we will drop granularity
15:19:17 <kfritsche> tadej: ta (text analysis) is the new prefix
15:19:27 <kfritsche> ... working on a draft
15:19:45 <kfritsche> ... which will be presented soon to the WG
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15:20:40 <chriLi> Tadej already drafted the revised section for the spec. It will be discussed this week.
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15:20:53 <omstefanov> I think it is very important, throughout all the ITS 2.0 documents and documentation that text-analysis NOT be abbreviated as simply TA. Using TA will result in lack of understanding.
15:22:02 <daveL> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-its20-20121206/#datacategories-overview
15:22:23 <daveL> text-analysis
15:23:23 <kfritsche> daveL: we are using hypen only in tables and annotatorsRef
15:24:17 <kfritsche> tadej: okay will look at this, in the attributes its called ta in rules its text analysis
15:24:25 <kfritsche> tadej: but this is cosmetic
15:24:32 <kfritsche> ... and can be changed easily
15:24:49 <kfritsche> ... we provide it soon to everyone
15:25:24 <kfritsche> daveL: post the changes to the list
15:26:01 <kfritsche> ... we appreciate the hard work everyone have done there
15:26:09 <daveL> Topic: ISSUE-106 and ISSUE-107: I18N-ISSUE-246: Clarify character encoding
15:26:24 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2013Feb/0028.html
15:27:40 <daveL> scribe: daveL
15:28:18 <daveL> karl: we decided in prague that this was something that implementors should be aware of but not mandated in the specification
15:32:17 <daveL> ... we don't address in our own application, we only tested with with UTF-8
15:32:31 <daveL> ... But this is difficult to validate a test for such an error
15:33:20 <kfritsche> scribe: kfritsche
15:33:33 <kfritsche> daveL: its difficult to test and doing a negative test
15:33:55 <kfritsche> ... hard to put this in an normative section
15:34:08 <daveL> daveL: perhaps yves and felix can help with wording that accomodates the dificulty in constructing a negative conformance test
15:34:37 <kfritsche> daveL: we leave this open and have to discuss this on a later call
15:34:41 <daveL> ... lets revist this on wednesday
15:35:08 <daveL> Topic: [ISSUE-84]: ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages, was:
15:35:18 <daveL> scribe: kfritsche
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15:35:34 <DomJones1> brb
15:36:01 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2013Feb/0032.html
15:36:07 <kfritsche> daveL: basically there are satisfied with our response
15:36:25 <daveL> topic; ISSUE-110: latest input from Jirka, but does this change decision to  remove XHTML form test suite?
15:36:27 <kfritsche> ... so we can close this particular issue
15:36:41 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0085.html
15:37:25 <kfritsche> daveL: how we deal with XHTML, jirka said from a implementors point of view this is easy to do
15:37:25 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0086.html
15:38:57 <kfritsche> Jirka: i drafted this as a note, but maybe some implementors can have a look at it
15:39:40 <kfritsche> daveL: i think we satisfied the original issue and this is a clarification
15:40:47 <kfritsche> kfritsche: the mail from Jirka makes much sense and should be added to the specification, as it makes it much clearer, how to use it
15:41:37 <kfritsche> Jirka: no need for a new action, as there is already another one for this
15:42:04 <daveL>  http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
15:42:31 <kfritsche> daveL: we still have quite a lot of issues
15:42:58 <kfritsche> ... after the reports this should be dealt with
15:43:25 <kfritsche> ... anyone want to cover a issue in the call now?
15:44:40 <kfritsche> mdelolmo: starting time of call from wed is?
15:44:55 <kfritsche> daveL: 1 pm. utc
15:45:09 <kfritsche> ... 2 pm cet
15:45:50 <kfritsche> Pedro: poster session is in the lunch break, when the demo people have lunch?
15:46:05 <Jirka> Demo or die :-)
15:46:29 <omstefanov> demo and slim down :-)
15:46:32 <kfritsche> DomJones1: i will check and maybe the demo people should leave the the session a bit earlier
15:46:54 <kfritsche> daveL: should we print the posters or are the printed there?
15:46:58 <kfritsche> DomJones1: will check this
15:47:54 <kfritsche> daveL: maybe the background should be updated and the logo from EU should be added, because lot of pepople seems to have problems here
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15:48:22 <daveL> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:48:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/18-mlw-lt-minutes.html daveL
15:48:35 <daveL> rrsagent, make log public
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