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16:01:10 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
16:01:10 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 61 minutes ago
16:01:11 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:01:11 <trackbot> Date: 14 February 2013
16:01:19 <hober> Zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:19 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has not yet started, hober
16:01:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, davidb, darobin, Stevef, hober, janina, MichaelC, trackbot
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16:03:39 <Judy> zakim, who's here?
16:03:40 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has not yet started, Judy
16:03:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see Judy, Zakim, RRSAgent, davidb, darobin, Stevef, hober, janina, MichaelC, trackbot
16:04:09 <David> David has joined #html-a11y
16:04:19 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P2 is Michael_Cooper
16:04:19 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
16:04:19 <Stevef> agenda+ Identify Scribe
16:04:21 <Stevef> agenda+ Longdesc Extension Publication request: resolutions: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0053.html  spec: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/b63325998cc1/longdesc1/longdesc.html
16:04:22 <Stevef> agenda+ Media Bugs (Continued) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Nov/0040.html
16:04:22 <janina> zakim, ??P2 is Janina
16:04:23 <Zakim> I already had ??P2 as Michael_Cooper, janina
16:04:24 <Stevef> agenda+ Text Bugs
16:04:25 <MichaelC> zakim, IPcaller is Steve_Faulkner
16:04:25 <Zakim> +Steve_Faulkner; got it
16:04:26 <Stevef> agenda+ Subteam Reports: Bug Triage;
16:04:27 <Stevef> agenda+ Alt bugs filed on HTML spec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0054.html
16:04:29 <MichaelC> zakim, Apple is hober
16:04:29 <Zakim> +hober; got it
16:04:29 <Stevef> agenda+ CAPTCHA in HTML spec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0037.html
16:04:30 <Stevef> agenda+ ARIA in HTML document.
16:04:32 <Stevef> agenda+ Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
16:04:33 <Stevef> agenda+ Other Business
16:04:34 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:04:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve_Faulkner, hober, David_MacDonald, Judy, Michael_Cooper, ??P5
16:04:46 <janina> zakim, ??P5 is Janina
16:04:46 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
16:06:22 <MichaelC> regrets: John_Foliot, Léonie_Watson, Charles_McCathieNevile
16:06:35 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:06:35 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify Scribe" taken up [from Stevef]
16:06:59 <Judy> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:06:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve_Faulkner, hober, David_MacDonald, Judy, Michael_Cooper, Janina
16:07:23 <MichaelC> scribe: David
16:07:26 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
16:07:26 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
16:07:27 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:07:27 <Zakim> 2. Longdesc Extension Publication request: resolutions: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0053.html  spec:
16:07:27 <Zakim> ... http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/b63325998cc1/longdesc1/longdesc.html [from Stevef]
16:07:28 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:07:28 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Longdesc Extension Publication request: resolutions: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0053.html  spec:
16:07:28 <Zakim> ... http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/b63325998cc1/longdesc1/longdesc.html" taken up [from Stevef]
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16:08:09 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
16:08:09 <Zakim> the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
16:08:41 <David> SF: minor changes to feedback have been made and mailed them out... 48 hour call... longdesc...
16:09:01 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:09:12 <David> jb:  don't think there was anything controversial...
16:09:15 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
16:09:15 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:09:20 <paulc> Paul is on mute
16:10:08 <David> sf: will be asking pf and html wg for call for consensus... 48 hour consensus, over by Monday... send it out then
16:10:56 <David> zakim, next item
16:10:56 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Media Bugs (Continued) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Nov/0040.html" taken up [from Stevef]
16:12:00 <David> put media bugs on hold
16:12:25 <David> zakim, next item
16:12:25 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Text Bugs" taken up [from Stevef]
16:12:37 <David> pass on alt for now
16:12:51 <David> zakim, next item
16:12:51 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, David
16:13:12 <David> zakim, next item
16:13:12 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, David
16:14:00 <David> back
16:14:01 <Stevef> zakim, take up item 6
16:14:01 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Alt bugs filed on HTML spec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0054.html" taken up [from Stevef]
16:15:13 <David> Steve is taking David's alt text document and turning it into formal bugs... work continues..
16:17:39 <David> sf: Paul suggested that the bugs refer back to relevant part of David's document... as a paper trail
16:18:30 <David> sf: is a co editor of html5 and will change document to fix bugs
16:19:25 <David> Engage on public html5 list... if you do have feedback... bring it to html5 list...
16:19:42 <Stevef> zakim, take up item 4
16:19:42 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Text Bugs" taken up [from Stevef]
16:19:54 <Judy> --- Text bug processing update, and links ---
16:19:54 <Judy> Leonie's Dec 4 bug processing request to text subteam
16:19:54 <Judy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Dec/0013.html
16:19:54 <Judy> List of text bugs to process
16:19:54 <Judy> <http://tinyurl.com/ckoq2cd>
16:19:55 <Judy> Minutes from initial processing round of 11 Dec 2012
16:19:57 <Judy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Dec/0054.html
16:19:59 <Judy> which documented recommended actions on the following bugs
16:20:01 <Judy> 9216, 10642, 13461, 13727, 13728
16:20:03 <Judy> Minutes from last week's TF processing round:
16:20:05 <Judy> (minuted as a continuation Media bug agenda item)
16:20:07 <Judy> http://www.w3.org/2013/02/07-html-a11y-minutes.html#item04
16:21:06 <David> jb: hoped to process offline
16:21:51 <David> jb: steve can you fix bugs as we are talking...
16:21:57 <David> sf: yes
16:22:37 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
16:23:45 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6496
16:23:58 <Judy> Going to lowest id #
16:25:53 <David> sf: using aria lebelledby ... arguments against... not a native html attribute... so should not be relying on ...
16:28:53 <David> Status change... reopened in the HTML
16:29:41 <Judy> For Bug 6496, status change is reopened, and component is HTML5
16:29:58 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8171
16:30:04 <David> RESOLUTIION: For Bug 6496, status change is reopened, and component is HTML5
16:30:23 <David> RESOLUTION: For Bug 6496, status change is reopened, and component is HTML5
16:32:50 <David> RESOLUTION: leave 8171 closed verified as resolved wontfix
16:33:05 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8716
16:35:36 <David> sf: status is conformance... alt required except if there is a nono empt
16:36:15 <David> s/nono exmpt/non-empty fig caption
16:36:40 <David> RESOLUTION: leave 8716 closed verified as resolved wontfix
16:36:45 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827
16:40:29 <David> Ted: to select as duplicate ... it asks what type of resolve... then select duplicate
16:41:57 <David> defer 8827 leave open with a note to associate it with the primary bug in the alt test bug document from David
16:43:07 <Judy> action: steve create a new bug for alt text bug cleanup and associate 8827 with that
16:43:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Create a new bug for alt text bug cleanup and associate 8827 with that [on Steve Faulkner - due 2013-02-21].
16:43:18 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8872
16:46:04 <David> jb: turn 8872 into master bug for the alt text issues.
16:48:12 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9098
16:48:12 <David> s/lebelledby/labelledby
16:49:09 <David> Action: Steve to reopen and revisit 8872 as a possible master bug for alt
16:49:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-157 - Reopen and revisit 8872 as a possible master bug for alt [on Steve Faulkner - due 2013-02-21].
16:49:49 <Stevef> zakim, take up item 7
16:49:49 <Zakim> agendum 7. "CAPTCHA in HTML spec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0037.html" taken up [from Stevef]
16:52:06 <David> sf: addressed alt for captcha bug by adding text on  to alt text document... asks us to review it
16:53:50 <Stevef> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/embedded-content-0.html#captcha-images
16:54:48 <David> sf: need time to sit in alt document and for people to review.... in both HTML 5.1  and alt text guidance
16:57:50 <Stevef> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Feb/0125.html
16:59:00 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:59:06 <David> sf: updated use of h1 elements...  asks us to review those
16:59:36 <David> SF : Informative advice about NAV and FIGURE ask us to review those...
17:01:42 <David> Janina: Would like to report on new york meeting with IDPF international Digital Publishing Forum... great expectations
17:01:54 <Zakim> -hober
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17:02:01 <David> Janina: Will do that next week...
17:02:04 <Zakim> -Steve_Faulkner
17:02:06 <Zakim> -Judy
17:02:07 <Zakim> -Janina
17:02:19 <David> zakim, bye
17:02:19 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were David_MacDonald, Judy, Michael_Cooper, Steve_Faulkner, hober, Janina, paulc, Cynthia_Shelly
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17:02:41 <David> rrsagent, make log public
17:02:53 <David> rrsagent, make minutes
17:02:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/14-html-a11y-minutes.html David
17:35:07 <janina> janina has changed the topic to: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference; Thursday 21 February at 16:00Z for 60 minutes
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