17:58:22 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #aapi
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17:59:00 <clown> zakim, this will be #aapi
17:59:00 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, clown
17:59:10 <clown> zakim, the will be #pf
17:59:10 <Zakim> I don't understand 'the will be #pf', clown
17:59:24 <clown> zakim, this will be pf
17:59:24 <Zakim> ok, clown, I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM already started
17:59:36 <clown> zakim, what conference is this?
17:59:36 <Zakim> this is WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM conference code 2119
18:00:19 <clown> this is #aapi
18:00:26 <clown> zakim, this is #aapi
18:00:28 <Zakim> sorry, clown, I do not see a conference named '#aapi' in progress or scheduled at this time
18:00:36 <clown> zakim, this is aapi
18:00:36 <Zakim> clown, I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be aapi".
18:00:45 <clown> zakim, this will be aapi
18:00:45 <Zakim> ok, clown; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM scheduled to start now
18:00:53 <clown> zakim, what conference is this?
18:00:53 <Zakim> this will be WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM conference code 2274, clown
18:00:55 <Zakim> this was WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM
18:00:55 <Zakim> I notice WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has restarted
18:01:12 <clown> zakim, what conference is this?
18:01:12 <Zakim> this will be WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM conference code 2274, clown
18:01:14 <Zakim> this was WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM
18:01:14 <Zakim> I notice WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has restarted
18:02:24 <clown> zakim, this is aapi
18:02:24 <Zakim> clown, I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be aapi".
18:02:36 <clown> zakim, what time is it?
18:02:36 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, clown.
18:03:24 <clown> trackbot, start telcon
18:03:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs member
18:03:28 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
18:03:28 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM already started
18:03:29 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
18:03:29 <trackbot> Date: 14 February 2013
18:03:40 <clown> zakim, this is aapi
18:03:40 <Zakim> clown, I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be aapi".
18:04:16 <clown> trackbot, this is aapi
18:04:16 <trackbot> Sorry, clown, I don't understand 'trackbot, this is aapi'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
18:04:24 <clown> trackbot, this is #aapi
18:04:24 <trackbot> Sorry, clown, I don't understand 'trackbot, this is #aapi'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
18:04:38 <clown> RRSAgent, this is #aapi
18:04:38 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'this is #aapi', clown.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
18:06:00 <clown> 
18:06:00 <clown> zakim, this is aapi
18:06:00 <Zakim> clown, I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be aapi".
18:07:00 <clown> rrsagent, make logs public
18:07:38 <clown> zakim, this is aapi
18:07:38 <Zakim> clown, this was WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM
18:07:39 <Zakim> ok, clown; that matches WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM
18:08:34 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
18:08:44 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:08:44 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
18:09:37 <clown> agenda: this
18:09:55 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1156: Explanatory text for IA2 groupPosition Value -- pass new wording by David.
18:10:09 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1159: Ensure container-live:value is included on elements HAVING the aria-live attribute applied.  Any news?
18:10:18 <clown> agenda+ Preparing for last call draft -- review items tracked in ISSUE-550.
18:10:37 <clown> agenda+ Issues/Actions review https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
18:10:48 <clown> agenda+ Bugzilla review https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116
18:10:54 <clown> agenda + be done
18:12:04 <clown> scribenick:  clown
18:12:30 <clown> CS:  I have booth duty at CSUN, so I can make a telecon next week.
18:12:49 <clown> davidb, can you make this meeting next week, even if you are at CSUN?
18:13:05 <davidb> no
18:13:21 <clown> ok, just cynthia and I then.
18:13:43 <davidb> CSUN is always jam packed for me
18:14:25 <clown> topic:  ISSUE-550
18:14:29 <clown> ISSUE-550?
18:14:30 <trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
18:14:30 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
18:19:24 <clown> topic:  aria-level and MSAA/IA2 column
18:19:49 <clown> JS:  the UAIG states that the aria-level value should be represented in the accValue of an outline object.
18:20:11 <clown> JS:  Alex says that something like this was done for MSAA, putting the value in the accDescription field.
18:20:21 <clown> JS:  but since IA2, no longer do that.
18:20:36 <clown> JS:  David cc'ed you (Cynthia) on emails about this.
18:20:56 <clown> CS:  I will check the email and look into it.  It may be an editorial error.
18:22:45 <clown> CS:  my guess is that it is obsolete, and we should take it remember.
18:23:14 <clown> s/should take it remember/should take it out/
18:23:28 <clown> topic:  ISSUE-550
18:24:01 <clown> action-851?
18:24:01 <trackbot> ACTION-851 -- Cynthia Shelly to look through APG design patterns re: menus for examples that relate to UAIG 5.8.4 -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
18:24:01 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/851
18:25:23 <clown> CS:  will look into that before the code freeze.
18:25:46 <clown> topic:  action-1152
18:25:49 <clown> action-1152?
18:25:49 <trackbot> ACTION-1152 -- Cynthia Shelly to investigate whether a pure UIA implementation does not have a description field -- due 2013-01-28 -- OPEN
18:25:49 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1152
18:26:28 <clown> CS:  there is an internal email thread about this.  I need to pull it together.
18:26:53 <clown> topic:  bugzilla 19780
18:26:54 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19780
18:28:27 <clown> CS:  that was resolved.  I meant to assing the bugzilla to you.
18:28:51 <clown> JS:  right.  I see the change.  I will assign it to me, and make the edits.
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18:30:11 <clown> action:  Joseph to edit the UAIG based on the outcome of bugzilla19780.  Role mapping for link in MSAA+UIA Express
18:30:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1164 - Edit the UAIG based on the outcome of bugzilla19780.  Role mapping for link in MSAA+UIA Express [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due 2013-02-21].
18:30:29 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
18:30:52 <clown> topic:  bugzilla 19786
18:31:02 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19786
18:31:10 <clown> JS:  log mapping.
18:31:56 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_role_table
18:32:58 <clown> CS:  Okay.  let's close it as resolved.
18:34:17 <clown> CS:  the next two — aria-expanded and dropeffect — I still ned to look at.
18:34:32 <clown> CS:  aria-expanded is easy; I should be able to knock it off today.
18:34:39 <clown> CS:  dropeffect will be trickier.
18:35:22 <clown> CS:  I will go do these now.
18:35:36 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
18:35:41 <clown> JS:  That's the enire agenda then.  Let's end the meeting.
18:35:59 <clown> rssagent, make minutes
18:36:09 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:36:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/14-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:36:44 <clown> regrets:  David_Bolter
18:36:59 <clown> chair:  Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:37:02 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:37:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/14-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:38:11 <clown> s/enire/entire/
18:39:02 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:39:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/14-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:40:20 <clown> zakim, please part
18:40:20 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Cynthia_Shelly, Joseph_Scheuhammer
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18:40:25 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:40:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/14-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:47:50 <clown> rrsagent, stop log
18:47:50 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop log', clown.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
18:48:25 <clown> rrsagent, stop