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18:00:37 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM has now started
18:00:44 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
18:00:52 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:00:53 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
18:01:02 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:01:02 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:01:24 <clown> agenda: this
18:01:24 <clown> agenda+ Preparing for last call draft -- review items tracked in ISSUE-550.
18:01:24 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1156: Explanatory text for IA2 groupPosition Value.
18:01:24 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-1159: Ensure container-live:value is included on elements
18:01:25 <clown> HAVING the aria-live attribute applied.
18:01:25 <clown> agenda+ ISSUE-552: IAccesible2 events for selection scenarios, and
18:01:25 <clown> section in UAIG.
18:01:26 <clown> agenda+ Issues/Actions review
18:01:26 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
18:01:26 <clown> agenda+ Bugzilla review
18:01:27 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116
18:01:27 <clown> agenda + be done
18:02:08 <clown> scribenick: clown
18:02:17 <clown> scribenick: clown
18:02:25 <clown> chair: Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:02:34 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:02:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/07-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:03:28 <clown> RRSAgent, make minutes public
18:03:28 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', clown.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
18:04:02 <clown> RRSAgent, make minutes public
18:04:02 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', clown.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
18:04:10 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:04:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/07-aapi-minutes.html clown
18:06:07 <clown> Meeting:  Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
18:06:11 <clown> rrsagent, make minutes
18:06:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/07-aapi-minutes.html clown
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18:11:34 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
18:11:50 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter
18:11:50 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
18:12:35 <clown> zakim, who's here?
18:12:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Joseph_Scheuhammer, David_Bolter
18:12:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see davidb, RRSAgent, Zakim, trackbot, clown, MichaelC
18:15:27 <clown> topic: ACTION-1156
18:15:31 <clown> action-1156?
18:15:31 <trackbot> ACTION-1156 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to create Text for groupPosition Value in response to Issue 553 -- due 2013-02-08 -- OPEN
18:15:31 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1156
18:19:09 <clown> DB:  looking up groupPosition() documentation...
18:19:19 <clown> DB:  reading Rich's proposed text...
18:20:49 <clown> DB:  not sure that the last sentence is necessary.
18:24:46 <clown> DB:  those are not "properties"; don't want it confused with object properties.
18:24:47 <davidb> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/public/nsIAccessible.idl#170
18:25:56 <clown> DB:  let's change them to "out parameters" or "parameters"
18:26:31 <clown> JS:  I will wordsmith RIch's text and ask for both of your opinions.
18:27:10 <clown> topic:  ACTION-1159
18:27:15 <clown> action-1159?
18:27:16 <trackbot> ACTION-1159 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to ensure container-live:value is included on elements HAVING the aria-live attribute applied. -- due 2013-02-12 -- OPEN
18:27:16 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1159
18:27:48 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state-property_table
18:34:01 <clown> DB:  not sure if we want to make container-live attribute a MUST for the the live region container.
18:34:40 <clown> JS:  also, technically, the test passes since the test is silent about the presence of container-live on the live region.
18:34:49 <clown> DB:  maybe I should chime into the thread.
18:35:01 <clown> DB: or, maybe just put it on the container as well.
18:38:24 <clown> DB:  <looking in other email threads>
18:40:23 <clown> DB:  It doesn't feel obvious to me.
18:42:02 <clown> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2013JanMar/0178.html
18:43:04 <clown> DB:  maybe we should wait for Jamie.
18:43:32 <clown> JS:  Okay.
18:43:51 <clown> topic:  Preparing for last call draft -- review items tracked in ISSUE-550.
18:43:58 <clown> ISSUE-550?
18:43:58 <trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
18:43:58 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
18:45:18 <clown> DB:  https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19779  is resolved.
18:45:28 <clown> JS:  right, I should have removed that from 550's list.
18:45:47 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17716
18:46:05 <clown> DB:  regarding role='note' and ROLE_NOTE in IA2.
18:46:30 <clown> DB:  the fix is coming in the IA2 API.
18:47:35 <clown> DB:  the fix is to use some form of the text I proposed in comment 11:
18:47:51 <clown> DB:  "...proposed new text for IA2_ROLE_NOTE, i.e. "A section whose content is parenthetic or ancillary to the main content of the resource"
18:48:33 <clown> JS:  so that matches aria role note and IA2's ROLE_NOTE.
18:48:36 <clown> JS:  good.
18:51:28 <clown> topic:  ISSUE-552
18:51:36 <clown> issue-552?
18:51:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-552 -- UAIG spec. is inaccurate wrt selection events pertaining to aria-selected being applied (MSAA/IA2) -- open
18:51:36 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/552
18:52:13 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_selection
18:56:48 <clown> Topic:  aria-checked="mixed" on a radio button.
18:58:32 <clown> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2013JanMar/0172.html
18:58:55 <davidb> I think it should be exposed as true, but I'm not sure worth changing spec or not :/
19:06:32 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
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19:08:02 <clown> present: David_Bolter, Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:08:13 <clown> regrets:  Cynthia_Shelley
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19:08:30 <clown> zakim, bye
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19:17:39 <clown> they're fine.
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