14:10:06 RRSAgent has joined #rdfa 14:10:06 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/31-rdfa-irc 14:10:08 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:10:08 Zakim has joined #rdfa 14:10:10 Zakim, this will be 7332 14:10:10 ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 50 minutes 14:10:11 Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference 14:10:11 Date: 31 January 2013 14:36:07 TallTed has joined #rdfa 15:01:23 niklasl has joined #rdfa 15:03:00 SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started 15:03:07 +??P15 15:03:10 zakim, I am ??P15 15:03:10 +niklasl; got it 15:03:23 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2013Jan/0096.html 15:03:30 +??P21 15:03:32 zakim, I am ??P21 15:03:32 +manu; got it 15:03:52 zakim, dial ivan-voip 15:03:52 ok, ivan; the call is being made 15:03:54 +Ivan 15:05:42 gkellogg has joined #rdfa 15:07:04 TallTed has changed the topic to: RDFa WG - http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/ - current agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2013Jan/0096.html 15:07:07 +??P25 15:07:10 -Ivan 15:07:16 zakim, I am ??P25 15:07:16 +gkellogg; got it 15:07:25 ShaneM has joined #rdfa 15:07:50 +scor 15:07:57 .. http://code.google.com/p/court/wiki/COIN 15:08:06 zakim, dial ivan-voip 15:08:06 ok, ivan; the call is being made 15:08:07 +Ivan 15:08:33 +Shane_McCarron 15:08:50 zakim, I am Shane_McCarron 15:08:50 ok, ShaneM, I now associate you with Shane_McCarron 15:10:02 .. some more CoIN examples in the (skeleton) spec: http://court.googlecode.com/hg/resources/docs/coin/spec.html 15:12:21 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2013Jan/0096.html 15:12:41 manu: review recent changes to the html+rdfa spec, then do proposal to LC 15:12:56 q+ 15:13:17 scor: we should put guha on list of acknowledgments? 15:14:30 ivan: before voting, we should spend some time with new issue from dr. olaf 15:14:43 manu: I've sent a response, but yes, we should deal with that 15:15:06 scor has joined #rdfa 15:15:37 Topic: DOCTYPE declarations for HTML+RDFa 1.1 15:16:16 manu: HTML5 is not versioned, so there is no real wiggle room on this.. 15:16:55 ivan: shane's remark: processor will manage with versions, but it will be illegal... 15:17:53 manu: we're not gonna make any changes based on this 15:18:26 … so at this point we make sure that RDFa is backwards compatible 15:19:38 manu: usage of doctype is bled out of browsers and is now the common practise 15:20:26 ivan: so this is not a formal issue and we can consider this closed 15:20:28 manu: yes 15:20:35 Topic: Property Copying Algorithm 15:20:41 http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-in-html/#implementing-property-copying 15:20:50 gregg: I've changed the rules back to the previous form 15:21:36 … two steps: 1. rule pattern copy; copy all properties, including rdf:type; 2. pattern clean, remove copy refs to pattern, removes pattern, and the pattern type copied over 15:22:13 manu: any comment on this, or anything else? 15:22:29 … some editorial issues may remain, but that's fine for LC 15:23:03 ivan: stefan did a good job 15:24:40 ivan: let's plan a bit ahead. do we intend to go to a separate CR, or direct to PR? 15:24:49 … 3 weeks is the minimal LC 15:25:08 … do we wish to extend this a bit and then go directly to PR? 15:26:15 manu: my thinking is we can say 3 weeks, but stay in "limbo" for two more if needed for interoperable impls. If we say 5 and are done in 3, we would need to wait 15:26:37 ivan: we should aim to go to PR together with the other edited documents. How much time do we need for those? 15:28:30 … one semi-technical change on the processing steps (didn't appear to be problematic)? And a DTD issue in the XML stuff. 15:29:02 manu: there should only be minor editorial mixups; nothing troublesome 15:29:10 … doable in 3 weeks 15:29:51 niklasl: still waiting for feedback from Martin Hepp on property copying. 15:30:25 manu: also a response from Tab 15:30:47 … re. formal objection 15:32:27 PROPOSAL: Publish the HTML+RDFa 1.1 specification as a Last Call Working Draft. Change the short-name to 'html-rdfa'. Publish the specification on February 7th, 2013 with a LC period of 3 weeks from the time of publication. 15:32:28 ivan: we need to make sure this is handled formally correct 15:32:32 +1 15:32:32 +1 15:32:34 +1 15:32:42 +1 15:32:51 +1 15:32:57 +1 15:33:02 RESOLVED: Publish the HTML+RDFa 1.1 specification as a Last Call Working Draft. Change the short-name to 'html-rdfa'. Publish the specification on February 7th, 2013 with a LC period of 3 weeks from the time of publication. 15:33:34 Topic: Patent Policy Issue 15:34:17 manu: the notice for when patent policy response period started wasn't sent out in time (due to bug in automatic send out) 15:34:50 … every member must response before the time period ends 15:35:29 … at LC, a poll will be sent out, and *everyone* in the group have to say that they have nothing to exclude etc. in time 15:36:06 q+ to ask when the "at risk" label will be removed from the property copying feature in the spec 15:36:11 ack ivan 15:37:02 ivan: we have more people on the list 15:37:07 manu: but not in good standing 15:37:18 ivan: have to ask Ian whether good standing is relevant here 15:38:00 Topic: At Risk Features 15:38:17 q+ to quickly ask about the RDFa put into the spec markup (by ReSpec?) 15:38:38 ack scor 15:38:38 scor, you wanted to ask when the "at risk" label will be removed from the property copying feature in the spec 15:38:40 ack niklasl 15:38:40 niklasl, you wanted to quickly ask about the RDFa put into the spec markup (by ReSpec?) 15:38:43 q+ 15:40:01 … would be great to have chapter labels as well. 15:40:08 -scor 15:40:14 ack gkellogg 15:40:40 gregg: the test suite is in a pretty good state. the property copying remains. 15:40:50 q+ 15:41:34 … now to generate test results report from the implementations. 15:42:09 ack ivan 15:42:13 ivan: formally for PR we only need to generate HTML5+XHTML5 15:43:07 q+ to make a point about property copying 15:43:31 ack manu 15:43:31 manu, you wanted to make a point about property copying 15:44:02 ivan: do we want to extend the test suite to see that property copying does not happen on the rest of the host languages 15:44:26 manu: implementations can do a willful violation, and then the specs need to be updated in the future 15:44:37 q+ 15:44:48 q- 15:45:03 ivan: we both generate and remove triples 15:45:31 .. granted, only using RDFa vocab terms, but still 15:45:48 .. the test suite should only test it for HTML5+XHTML5, and be silent on the rest 15:49:37 Topic: Role Attribute Module 15:49:54 shane: for member companies, it would be great to have votes for the role attribute spec 15:50:02 ShaneM: Role attribute module PR vote is open, go vote! 15:50:02 .. to PR 15:50:44 ivan: we'll email about the list of changes for the other documents 15:50:50 -manu 15:50:52 -gkellogg 15:50:53 -Shane_McCarron 15:53:44 -Ivan 15:53:48 -niklasl 15:53:50 SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended 15:53:50 Attendees were niklasl, manu, Ivan, gkellogg, scor, Shane_McCarron 16:00:22 niklasl has left #rdfa 16:01:29 rrsagent, make logs public 16:11:57 tinkster has joined #rdfa 17:55:34 Zakim has left #rdfa 19:20:33 gkellogg_ has joined #rdfa 20:13:11 tinkster has joined #rdfa 22:10:20 gkellogg has joined #rdfa 22:36:00 rrsagent, bye 22:36:00 I see no action items