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17:00:08 Zakim, this will be html_wg
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17:00:09 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
17:00:10 Date: 31 January 2013
17:00:20 zakim, who is on the phone?
17:00:20 On the phone I see Aaron_Colwell, [Microsoft], [Apple]
17:00:37 Zakim, call Mike
17:00:37 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
17:00:39 +Mike
17:00:55 zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
17:00:55 +paulc; got it
17:00:56 +ddorwin
17:01:03 +[Microsoft.a]
17:01:24 +joesteele
17:01:28 zakim, Microsoft.a has krisk
17:01:28 +krisk; got it
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17:02:00 zakim, call janina
17:02:00 ok, janina; the call is being made
17:02:02 +Janina
17:02:06 scribe: krisk
17:02:22 +Radhika_Roy
17:02:26 +[Microsoft.aa]
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17:03:00 zakim, Microsoft.aaa has me
17:03:00 +jaymunro; got it
17:03:07 zakim, mute me
17:03:07 glenn should now be muted
17:03:23 zakim, who is on the phone?
17:03:23 On the phone I see Aaron_Colwell, [Microsoft], [Apple], Mike, ddorwin, [Microsoft.a], joesteele, Janina, Radhika_Roy, [Microsoft.aa], [Microsoft.aaa], glenn (muted)
17:03:26 [Microsoft.a] has krisk
17:03:27 [Microsoft.aaa] has jaymunro
17:03:27 [Microsoft] has paulc
17:03:31 +Sam
17:04:04 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, January 31
17:04:17 TOPIC: 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, January 31 None
17:04:32 TOPIC: 2. New Issues This Week:
17:04:33 none
17:04:40 There are 5 tracker requests
17:04:41 +[Microsoft.aaaa]
17:04:47 zakim, [Microsoft.aaaa] is me
17:04:48 +adrianba; got it
17:05:01 paulc: working through them one at a time
17:05:02 http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
17:05:23 zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
17:05:23 +edoyle; got it
17:05:23 paulc: two are cover by other agenda items, trying to avoid them becoming issues
17:05:33 TOPIC: 3. Items Closed Last Week
17:05:47 First CfC: handle ISSUE-207 responsive-images consistently with Plan 2014, Closed Jan 23 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0020.html
17:05:54 close with no object
17:06:08 Second Preference Survey: Microdata Note vs Recommendation Track, Closed Jan 24 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0022.html
17:06:14 also closed last week
17:06:21 TOPIC: 4. Items Closing This Week
17:06:30 One item a) CfC: to publish Encrypted Media Extensions specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD), Closed Jan 30 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0102.html
17:06:51 paulc: This is an active thread on the list, chairs discussing how to proceed
17:07:21 paulc: both lots of disent and lots of people that agree with the WD publishing
17:07:29 TOPIC: 5. Items Closing Next Week
17:07:30 none
17:07:39 TOPIC: 6. New Calls this week
17:07:51 First CfC: HTML Microdata minimum CR period, Closes Feb 4 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0184.html
17:07:53 closed
17:08:09 Second CfC: to publish Public Identifiers for Entity Resolution in XHTML specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD), Closes Feb 6 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0212.html
17:08:25 paulc: A number of explicit supporters
17:08:40 TOPIC: 7. New Surveys this week
17:08:41 none
17:08:48 TOPIC: 8. Decisions this week
17:08:58 a) WG Decision on Microdata Note vs Recommendation Track http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0182.html
17:09:22 b) CFC: Request transition of HTML Microdata to Candidate Recommendation
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17:09:50 paulc: WG decision to move Microdata to CR
17:10:34 paulc: I belive we do need to pick the editor for Microdata (Mike?)
17:11:13 paulc: no action item but co-chairs will pick an editor
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17:11:28 next item Isssue closing on ISSUE-207
17:11:34 CfC: handle ISSUE-207 responsive-images consistently with Plan 2014 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0185.html Status: On last week's WG call we targeted moving forward with a CfC to publish both responsive-images and srcset attribute extensions spec later this week (when Ted finishes some bug work on srset attribute proposal). Srcset bugs: http://tinyurl.com/apf88ub
17:11:37 +[Microsoft.aa]
17:11:50 Zakim, Microsoft.aa is me
17:11:50 +Eliot; got it
17:12:07 paulc: hober are you on track to close the bugs (was at 6->7)
17:12:21 hober: we are now down to 2 and I'm happy with the progress
17:12:43 paulc: I'll do a CFC for the picture element and a seperate of the srcset attribute
17:12:48 hober: sounds good
17:12:59 paulc: sam is this ok?
17:13:02 sam: yes
17:13:11 TOPIC: 9. Task Force Reports
17:13:17 b) Accessibility Task Force
17:13:27 group working on clean bugs with keywords
17:13:40 paulc wants group to work on longdesc
17:13:52 janina: we think we have the group ready
17:14:26 janina: we have a few more edits so that it's clear...should take another week
17:14:51 janina: By Feb 8th we should be compete
17:15:32 janina: the issue on alt is on me and waiting for a response from robin
17:16:02 paulc: these are in the Other Business in the agena (item a and item b)
17:16:11 Next Media Task Force
17:16:21 We processed the meeting source extension
17:16:33 The group meets weekly
17:17:13 CFC on eme and around 30 bugs on this spec while the WG continues work the decision on the spec
17:17:18 Testing Task Force
17:18:08 Group met on tuesday (light attendance)
17:18:25 Group blocked on getting content from git -> w3c-test.org
17:19:28 Mike are you around to given an update on this issue
17:19:42 Mike: I should be able to get this done in a week
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17:20:39 krisk: will this also cover the use case where someone has a branch?
17:20:53 mike: yes this should be possible
17:20:56 krisk: ok
17:21:19 TOPIC: 10. Other Business
17:21:32 paulc: a few items
17:21:44 a) HTML5 Image Description Extension candidate FPWD http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jan/0112.htm l Status: We are waiting for A11Y TF to finish the TF's wiki of results and then we will be ready to do a WG CfC to publish a FPWD. https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/1f251fcbe363/longdesc1/longdesc.html
17:22:01 paulc: Expect ask to Co-chairs for a CFC on Feb 8th
17:22:24 b) HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12726 which includes TrackerRequest Steve's request for a delay in a Preference Poll re normativity: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0002.html Status: This item is still awaiting a progress report from A11Y TF and Editors on the status of problems in: http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/WAI/buggy.html
17:22:59 paulc: I'll continue to track this so that we do get discussion on the bugs on public html
17:23:16 paulc: any comments?
17:23:25 krisk: none
17:23:29 c) Plans for preference poll on future of Polyglot document https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/polyglot-status-preference-poll/ Note: Poll is NOT open. Chairs are waiting for discussion on public-html@w3.org to finish.
17:24:14 paulc: co-chairs were going to wait to seehow the Microdata pref poll went
17:24:37 paulc: we do need to figure out how to process some of the suggestions
17:24:45 d) Media Source Extensions FPWD publication http://www.w3.org/News/2013#entry-9697 http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-media-source-20130129/
17:25:21 paulc we did have a CFC to publish ARIA in HTML as FPWD
17:25:22 e) Re: CfC: to publish ARIA in HTML specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0006.html Status: Publication is still pending resolution of Publicationa Rule changes.
17:25:34 paulc: mike are you working on this?
17:25:37 mike: yes
17:25:43 paulc: Ok thanks
17:26:06 paulc: W3C announces TPAC 2013 in china
17:26:07 f) W3C Announces TPAC 2013 in China, Nov 18-22 2013 http://www.w3.org/News/2013#entry-9703
17:26:14 paulc: any other business?
17:26:21 -Aaron_Colwell
17:26:28 paulc: none
17:26:41 paulc: scribe for next week?
17:26:47 krisk: I can help
17:27:02 rrsagent, generate the minutes
17:27:02 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/31-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
17:27:05 -Radhika_Roy
17:27:07 paulc: shall we adjourn?
17:27:16 zakim, who is on the phone?
17:27:16 On the phone I see [Microsoft], [Apple], Mike, ddorwin, [Microsoft.a], joesteele, Janina, edoyle, [Microsoft.aaa], glenn (muted), Sam, adrianba, Eliot
17:27:18 [Microsoft.a] has krisk
17:27:18 [Microsoft.aaa] has jaymunro
17:27:18 [Microsoft] has paulc
17:27:24 krisk: meeting adjourned
17:27:25 -Eliot
17:27:26 -[Apple]
17:27:26 -joesteele
17:27:27 -Janina
17:27:27 -Mike
17:27:29 -glenn
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17:27:32 -Sam
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17:27:50 -edoyle
17:28:34 -ddorwin
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