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<trackbot> Date: 31 January 2013
<janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference
<scribe> scribe: JF
zalim, take up item 1
SF: looking at @poster bug
<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13333
SF: looking ast the parameters bug
appears to have been resolved amicably in the WG, suggest we move on
<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12228
Bug 12228
<LeonieWatson> SF: Sounds like if someone wants to write an extension spec they can.
<LeonieWatson> JF: We didn't expand the use cases for longdesc...
<LeonieWatson> JS: I didn't think alt was applicable to media elements either. Not sure this should be an extension.
<LeonieWatson> JF: If we want to add text equivalence to video we have aria-describedby, but it's not a complete longdesc replacement.
<LeonieWatson> JS: Not comfortable with this bug being closed.
<LeonieWatson> SF: We won't be able to address in 5.0 unless we can get a solution and get implementations.
<LeonieWatson> JF: We need to keep open, we need to work out how to advance an extension spec.
<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12546
<LeonieWatson> JF: We can walk away from this one.
<LeonieWatson> SF: Remove the keywords?
<LeonieWatson> JS: Yes.
<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13275
Display the controls UI when scripting is disabled
<chaals> [I think JF has an action to deal with this...]
discussing the controls issue
<chaals> [I'm with Steve. The editor answer is not to do what John is suggesting happens, and Shelley is complaining about that]
Chaals: if what the bug says is what the spec says, we should close this bug
Discussion about media players & controls
Chaals: this is a user-agent implementation/requirement
ACTIO: JF to investigate this and report back next week
<scribe> ACTION: JF to investigate this and report back next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/31-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-154 - Investigate this and report back next week [on John Foliot - due 2013-02-07].
ACTION 154 is on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13275
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<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13544
Cyns: check back with Silvia
SF: removing keywords
<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13546
JF: this is an enhancement, basic req is possible now
<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624
<Stevef> -> suggest closing - the paused-for-user-interaction state was misunderstood
JF: recommend to inform UAWG about this
JS: we need more experience with media and extended descriptions
ACTION on JF - point UAWG to bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624
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ACTION JF - point UAWG to bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624
<trackbot> Created ACTION-155 - - point UAWG to bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624 [on John Foliot - due 2013-02-07].
<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12794
<Stevef> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12228
JF: believe this needs to go to the Techniques TF
ACTION LeonieWatson will advise the Techniques TF on bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12794
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PC: notes 2 other items on agenda, will we look at them at this meeting?
JS: alt and longdesc?
PC: yes - prefer not to leqave this to last 2 minutes
JB: pause on media one for today, and move to next item?
JS agreed
JS: last media bug looked at is https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12794, defer balance until next week
PC: at some point this discussion
should go public - trying to understand. There is WG work
blocked at this time by this
... Chairs need to understand where this stands in the overall
Editorial work
JS: forwarding an email to
Paul
... believe next step is to Robin
JS: last time we spoke, needs clarrification on how to address the feedback
when looking at this, some were unclear if we had sufficiently captured why we rejected some feedback - had we been succinct and specific enough?
JS: thus we are being very cautious to ensure we've not missed something
JB: concur - is there any other questions that need to be addressed?
PC: it would be useful to provide a predicted date if we can
JS: good to discuss the topic of predicted date
JB: I think we need another pass - probably a few weeks
JS: quite determined to get to CSUN and say we've handled that
JB: we can probably be ready to
share with the group by Tuesday or Wednesday next week, then
discuss on Thursday
...
Task Force review of changed summary - TF should review one more tme
<paulc> I have to go.
JS: target for longdesc extension
spec is Feb. 8th, we will have forwarded a reuest for
publication
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