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14:58:04 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
14:58:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
14:58:05 <trackbot> Date: 24 January 2013
14:58:11 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has now started
14:58:19 <Zakim> +sean
14:58:50 <Zakim> +glenn
14:58:58 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
14:59:10 <mmartin3> zakim, Microsoft is mmartin3
14:59:10 <Zakim> +mmartin3; got it
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15:01:03 <mmartin3> zakim, who is here?
15:01:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see sean, glenn, mmartin3, Andreas
15:01:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see pal, andreas, Zakim, RRSAgent, mmartin3, Sean, glenn, trackbot
15:01:14 <mmartin3> Chair:
15:01:16 <mmartin3> Sean Hayes
15:01:21 <mmartin3> scribe: mmartin3
15:01:24 <Zakim> +pal
15:03:10 <Zakim> +Thomas_Bause_Mason
15:03:58 <mmartin3> zakim list attendees
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15:04:16 <mmartin3> zakim, list attendees
15:04:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been sean, glenn, mmartin3, Andreas, pal, Thomas_Bause_Mason
15:04:23 <mmartin3> regrets: mike
15:04:41 <mmartin3> Topic: SDP-US
15:04:53 <mmartin3> sean: Few minor editorial issues identified.
15:05:02 <mmartin3> ...Formally move to have the document ratified.
15:05:53 <mmartin3> pal: Add item to agenda on input of Issue-199 impact on SDP-US.
15:06:04 <mmartin3> sean: Pre-requisite to move profile forward.
15:06:09 <mmartin3> pal: Yes.
15:06:45 <mmartin3> sean: SDP-US refer to TTML 1.0 SE.,
15:06:52 <mmartin3> s/SE.,/SE.
15:06:55 <mmartin3> Action-137?
15:06:55 <trackbot> ACTION-137 -- Glenn Adams to add "TTML" to name of SDP-US. Link: http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml10-sdp-us/ -- due 2013-01-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:06:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/137
15:07:19 <mmartin3> close action-137
15:07:20 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-137 Add "TTML" to name of SDP-US. Link: http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml10-sdp-us/.
15:07:26 <mmartin3> action-138?
15:07:26 <trackbot> ACTION-138 -- Glenn Adams to delete 2 paragraphs after table in Appendix B of SDP-US. -- due 2013-01-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:07:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/138
15:07:49 <mmartin3> close action-138
15:07:49 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-138 Delete 2 paragraphs after table in Appendix B of SDP-US..
15:07:53 <mmartin3> action-139?
15:07:53 <trackbot> ACTION-139 -- Glenn Adams to correct font size in Example 2 in SDP-US. -- due 2013-01-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:07:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/139
15:07:56 <mmartin3> close action-139
15:07:56 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-139 Correct font size in Example 2 in SDP-US..
15:08:37 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Minor editorial issues given directly to Glenn.
15:08:45 <mmartin3> ...No issue.
15:10:56 <mmartin3> glenn: Do we need to add editorial nits?
15:11:00 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Yes.
15:11:18 <mmartin3> ...1. Do we know all the examples parse?
15:12:03 <mmartin3> sean: Examples match schema.
15:12:47 <mmartin3> glenn: Updated examples files in source and used in SDP-US. Build will do validation.
15:14:29 <mmartin3> sean: This is sufficient. One error before Example 3 (brackets).
15:14:50 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Sounds good.
15:14:53 <mmartin3> 2. Do we want to reference TTML 1.0 so specifically in some text particularly if we have to remap to TTML 1.0 S
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15:15:24 <plh> zakim, drop plh
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15:15:29 <plh> zakim, passcode?
15:15:29 <Zakim> the conference code is 8865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), plh
15:15:46 <Zakim> +Philippe
15:15:54 <mmartin3> ...Assumed roll over to SE on all references.
15:16:13 <mmartin3> zakim, list attendees
15:16:14 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been sean, glenn, mmartin3, Andreas, pal, Thomas_Bause_Mason, Plh, Philippe
15:17:06 <mmartin3> glenn: We reference SE too already.
15:17:52 <mmartin3> ...Do we need to delay profile to SE publishes?
15:18:15 <mmartin3> sean: Part of 1.1 if applicable.
15:18:39 <mmartin3> glenn: Note to have a reference to incomplete document?
15:18:41 <mmartin3> plh: Yes.
15:19:05 <mmartin3> ...Reference editorial draft of SE; this is OK.
15:19:37 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Forward looking statement.
15:19:55 <mmartin3> 3. Is this considered a requirement?" Style overrides must be applied to the result of step 2 [resolve computed styles] of [TTML10], Section 8.4.4.4, Style Resolution Process."
15:20:36 <mmartin3> glenn: Normative. Use UC.
15:21:04 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Section 8.2 in SDP-US.
15:21:19 <mmartin3> glenn: Will correct.
15:21:54 <mmartin3> mmartin3: No others.
15:22:28 <mmartin3> Also: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html#Constrained_TTML_Feature_extent_region
15:22:32 <mmartin3> We miss in Section 9.
15:24:06 <mmartin3> sean: Was this supposed to be there?
15:24:32 <mmartin3> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html#Features_in_TTML_1.0_Used
15:24:58 <mmartin3> Link: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html#mapping-of-us-government-requirements-to-constrained-profile-features
15:25:24 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Appendix B - originally writingMode-horizontal-lr
15:25:29 <mmartin3> glenn: Will correct.
15:25:44 <mmartin3> mmartin3: No others - all editorial.
15:26:37 <mmartin3> pal: What is impact of Issue-199 to SDP-US? Not really Issue-199 in isolation.
15:27:34 <mmartin3> sean: In terms of profile, Mike's concern is where the time code math of document is different than media.
15:27:56 <mmartin3> ...Can we say for timing, that they must associate and be consistent with the media.
15:28:04 <mmartin3> ...Does that work for the SDP-US?
15:28:20 <mmartin3> pal: SDP-US is impacted?
15:28:32 <mmartin3> sean: Yes.
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15:30:00 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Review ends Jan 31 so we can discuss Issue-199.
15:30:05 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
15:30:31 <mmartin3> ...Forward look to SDP-US.
15:30:38 <mijordan> Zakim, Andrew_Kirkpatrick is mijordan
15:30:38 <Zakim> +mijordan; got it
15:30:43 <mmartin3> pal: May be substantive to SDP-US.
15:31:40 <mmartin3> glenn: There are multiple options that input to any impact ere.
15:31:45 <mmartin3> s/ere/here
15:32:03 <mmartin3> sean: Decide whether we need to take out frameRateMultiplier.
15:32:26 <mmartin3> Issue-172?
15:32:26 <trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- REGION-OF(E) pseudo-code doesn't match prose -- open
15:32:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/172
15:32:46 <mmartin3> sean: TBD for me and I have some ideas.  Raised by Sony originally. Deal with Jan 31.
15:33:02 <Zakim> -glenn
15:33:17 <mmartin3> Issue-199?
15:33:17 <trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- timeExpression to video frame calculation is unclear in some cases -- raised
15:33:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/199
15:33:25 <mmartin3> Defer until Glenn and Mike are present.
15:34:21 <mmartin3> back to TOPIC: SDP-US
15:34:27 <mmartin3> Defer to get to Issue-199.
15:34:32 <Zakim> -Thomas_Bause_Mason
15:34:35 <mmartin3> TOPIC: Issues
15:34:36 <Zakim> -pal
15:34:37 <mmartin3> See above
15:34:43 <mmartin3> TOPIC: Second Edition
15:34:52 <mmartin3> Can we move it to 1st Public Working Draft.
15:35:05 <mmartin3> sean: We should do this.
15:35:11 <mmartin3> ...Any objection?
15:35:15 <mmartin3> ...None.
15:35:24 <mmartin3> Resolved to move to First Public Working Draft.
15:35:38 <mmartin3> TOPIC: TTML 1.1.
15:35:50 <mmartin3> sean: Handle after we publish SDP-US.
15:36:10 <mmartin3> plh: We are behind.
15:36:21 <mmartin3> sean: Get out draft this month.
15:36:53 <mmartin3> plh: Get SE ready for publication.
15:37:08 <mmartin3> sean: SDP-US nailed Jan 31 and start TTML 1.1.
15:37:47 <mmartin3> plh: Publish SE as as PR or LC draft?
15:37:55 <mmartin3> sean: Depends on Issue-199 and timing issue.
15:38:05 <mmartin3> ...We had discussed moving directly to PR.
15:38:52 <mmartin3> mmartin3: We want to publish Jan 31 SDP-US.
15:39:02 <Zakim> -Andreas
15:39:03 <mmartin3> plh: On road Jan 31 but may join.
15:39:03 <Zakim> -Philippe
15:39:04 <Zakim> -mijordan
15:39:07 <Zakim> -sean
15:39:11 <mmartin3> ...Can publish when WG makes a decision.
15:39:14 <mmartin3> TOPIC:
15:39:16 <mmartin3> Adjourned.
15:39:29 <mmartin3> zakim, list attendees
15:39:29 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been sean, glenn, mmartin3, Andreas, pal, Thomas_Bause_Mason, Plh, Philippe, mijordan
15:39:32 <mmartin3> trackbot, end meeting
15:39:32 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:39:33 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been sean, glenn, mmartin3, Andreas, pal, Thomas_Bause_Mason, Plh, Philippe, mijordan
15:39:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:39:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/24-tt-minutes.html trackbot
15:39:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:39:41 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
15:39:42 <Zakim> -mmartin3
15:39:43 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:39:43 <Zakim> Attendees were sean, glenn, mmartin3, Andreas, pal, Thomas_Bause_Mason, Plh, Philippe, mijordan