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17:44:02 <ht> Meeting: TAG
17:44:07 <ht> Chair: Noah Mendelsohn
17:44:12 <ht> ScribeNick: ht
17:44:16 <ht> Scribe: Henry S. Thompson
17:44:22 <timbl> timbl has joined #tagmem
17:44:23 <ht> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2013/01/24-agenda.html
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17:57:45 <Marcos> hi, thanks JeniT
17:58:08 <wycats> what's the call-in number?
17:58:12 <wycats> the call is now right?
17:58:19 <Marcos> Zakim, passcode?
17:58:19 <Zakim> the conference code is 0824 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Marcos
17:58:21 <JeniT> yes, now
17:58:45 <Zakim> TAG_Weekly()1:00PM has now started
17:58:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:59:00 <Marcos> Zakim, +[IPcaller] is me
17:59:00 <Zakim> sorry, Marcos, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
17:59:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
17:59:06 <Marcos> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
17:59:07 <Zakim> +Marcos; got it
17:59:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:59:41 <wycats> am I connected?
17:59:44 <Zakim> +??P5
18:00:00 <JeniT> wycats: are you IPcaller?
18:00:06 <wycats> JeniT: I have no idea
18:00:11 <wycats> JeniT: I called via Skype
18:00:14 <JeniT> wycats: say something
18:00:19 <JeniT> yes
18:00:47 <wycats> Wasn't Marcos [IPCaller]?
18:00:54 <JeniT> yes, originally
18:01:04 <Marcos> wycats: no worries. It's only useful for muting
18:01:09 <Marcos> I can mute myself locally
18:01:12 <JeniT> zakim, who's on the call?
18:01:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see Marcos, JeniT, wycats, ht
18:01:36 <Marcos> hopefully no one hears me chewing away on a pear
18:01:36 <ht> Welcome guys -- I guess Noah is running late
18:01:50 <Zakim> +plinss
18:02:06 <wycats> after last week's debacle I brought in my Blue Snowball to work
18:02:12 <wycats> hopefully people will be able to hear me better
18:02:16 <wycats> Marcos: as can I
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18:04:52 <JeniT> ht: are you scribing today?
18:04:58 <ht> I am
18:05:02 <ht> All set
18:05:04 <slightlyoff> will be there shortly....kicking a camper out of a phone room
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18:05:42 <noah> dialing
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18:05:56 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
18:06:16 <JeniT> noah: there's an email from Amy
18:06:25 <JeniT> noah: re Tim's availability
18:06:27 <noah> Ah...haven't looked last hour,
18:06:38 <Zakim> +Yves
18:06:45 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
18:07:01 <Zakim> + +1.212.565.aaaa
18:07:03 <noah> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
18:07:03 <Zakim> +noah; got it
18:07:11 <slightlyoff> just joined
18:07:13 <slightlyoff> sorry for the delay
18:09:16 <ht> Topic: Admin
18:09:24 <ht> Zakim, who is on the call?
18:09:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see Marcos, JeniT, wycats, ht (muted), plinss, Ashok_Malhotra, Yves, noah, slightlyoff
18:10:39 <slightlyoff> +1, LGTM
18:10:43 <ht> RESOLVED: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/12/20-minutes agreed as a correct record
18:10:59 <ht> NM: Two goals for the near term:
18:11:15 <ht> ... 1) Focus for the TAG, as membership changes
18:11:45 <ht> ...   Suggestions welcome, by email, I'll schedule discussion when it looks likely to be productive
18:12:26 <ht> ...  I need help moving beyond good top-level visions, which need filling in
18:13:02 <ht> ... 2) Ongoing work, some nearing completion, others less concrete
18:13:13 <ht> ...   Need to either complete, or drop
18:13:54 <ht> Topic: March F2F location
18:14:13 <ht> NM: 17-19 March no longer possible for TimBL
18:14:57 <ht> ... And earlier hope that we might try London the preceding weekend is fading
18:15:15 <noah> Two options: London Fri-Sun 15-17 & Cambridge 19-21 USA
18:15:22 <Marcos> MC: Any WFM
18:15:27 <slightlyoff> can make london, although the friday is iffy thanks to TC39 flight back
18:15:34 <JeniT> either ok
18:15:37 <slightlyoff> unlikely to make cambridge
18:15:38 <plinss> either works
18:15:40 <wycats> I am with slightlyoff vis a vis TC39
18:15:57 <Yves> can make cambridge but will miss one day, can't for london (I can make 1 day)
18:17:11 <Ashok> London No, Cambridge Yes
18:17:14 <ht> I can only do 16-17 in London, but I have always been at risk for this meeting
18:17:18 <wycats> can we push it forward?
18:17:27 <noah> How far forward
18:17:27 <wycats> these weeks seem pretty contended
18:17:28 <noah> ?
18:17:44 <noah> No, Tim's calendar is incredibly booked. We typically have to get on it 3 months in advance
18:18:20 <slightlyoff> thanks for the clarification
18:19:21 <wycats> It looks like slightlyoff and my preference is both London
18:20:12 <wycats> I am reviewing my calendar
18:20:14 <slightlyoff> I won't be in Cambridge, no
18:20:29 <slightlyoff> but i'm not more important than tim...break the tie on his calendar
18:20:32 <ht> HST, I can't do Cambridge
18:20:50 <wycats> I have an existing obligation during the Cambridge time period but I could cancel
18:22:06 <slightlyoff> no objection, but regrets
18:22:28 <slightlyoff> no, *my* regrets for not being able to make it...not anyone's fault
18:22:36 <ht> RESOLUTION: Next TAG f2f will be Cambridge, MA on 19--21 March
18:23:45 <slightlyoff> agree with Henry
18:25:35 <ht> Topic: Polyglot / DOM 4 issue
18:25:45 <ht> q+ to mention XML Core situation
18:25:49 <noah> ack next
18:25:50 <Zakim> ht, you wanted to mention XML Core situation
18:25:50 <noah> q-
18:25:53 <ht> ack ht
18:26:19 <noah> Topic: XML Declaration in the DOM
18:26:38 <noah> HT: XML Core group is discussing this
18:26:54 <noah> HT: There's a concern that XML Declaration is in the XML Infoset
18:27:22 <noah> HT: Noah's agenda includes a contested assertion...there's email reporting some current browsers continue to support it.
18:27:42 <noah> NM: Should TAG do anything right now?
18:28:12 <noah> HT: Tempted to recuse myself. I'm active in the XML Core group. Not clear on TAG-level issue. Dropping it does seem inappropriate, or confusing at best.
18:29:05 <ht> I will certainly come back to the TAG on this if I think there's a genuine architectural issue here
18:29:30 <slightlyoff> I agree with noah
18:29:59 <ht> NM: Not clear we're ready to address this -- we would need to have some reason to suppose that we could get community engagement on the TAG's involvement
18:30:45 <ht> Topic: Progress on FragID finding
18:30:59 <noah> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/products/fragids.html
18:31:05 <ht> NM: We have a project ongoing at the moment:
18:31:34 <noah> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-fragid-best-practices-20121025/
18:31:36 <ht> NM: That page describes goals, deliverables, success criteria
18:31:41 <noah> Best Practices for Fragment Identifiers and Media Type Definitions
18:31:52 <ht> NM: And we have a public WD
18:31:56 <noah> ACTION-772?
18:31:56 <trackbot> ACTION-772 -- Larry Masinter to with help from Jeni to propose CR exit criteria for fragids finding Due 2013-01-08 -- due 2013-01-18 -- OPEN
18:31:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/772
18:32:13 <ht> NM: And the current leading edge is recorded in this action:
18:32:38 <ht> NM: We are heading for CR, and we were going to discuss exit criteria at the (cancelled) F2F
18:33:00 <ht> JT: I don't know where we are on exit criteria, I don't think I've heard from LM, who has that action
18:33:03 <noah> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mimeTypesAndFragids
18:33:25 <ht> JT: I have made a new editors' draft, which incorporates comments from Richard Cyganek
18:33:35 <JeniT> Cyganiak
18:33:42 <JeniT> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mimeTypesAndFragids-2013-01-05.html
18:34:04 <ht> s/Cyganek/Cyganiak/
18:34:28 <ht> JT: I think we can still go direct to CR at this point
18:35:02 <ht> JT: I'll take over the CR exit criteria action
18:35:14 <ht> NM: Thanks
18:35:56 <noah> ACTION-772?
18:35:57 <trackbot> ACTION-772 -- Jeni Tennison to with help from Larry to propose CR exit criteria for fragids finding -- due 2013-02-12 -- OPEN
18:35:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/772
18:36:33 <slightlyoff> +1
18:36:46 <noah> topic: Back to DOM XML Declarations
18:36:59 <noah> NM: Notes that Yehuda and Alex favor discussing the DOM at the F2F
18:37:06 <Ashok> q+
18:37:50 <noah> ack next
18:37:55 <ht> NM: Happy to have any topic raised by member on our telcon agenda
18:38:10 <ht> ... Often good to prepare stuff on telcons before we take them up at a f2f
18:38:24 <ht> Topic: Next steps for Publishing and Linking
18:38:40 <noah> ACTION-773?
18:38:40 <trackbot> ACTION-773 -- Ashok Malhotra to line up reviewers for Publishing and Linking and invite to participate in F2F -- due 2012-12-20 -- CLOSED
18:38:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/773
18:39:11 <ht> AM: We need a fair amount of work on this still
18:39:26 <ht> ... The two editors, AM and LM, are both on their way off the TAG
18:39:45 <ht> ... It would be great if a new member would take this up
18:39:54 <ht> ... Or perhaps JT could pick it up
18:40:27 <ht> NM: Points taken
18:40:53 <ht> ... What do people think -- should we continue to pursue this one?  If so, then we'll look at how
18:41:03 <ht> q+ ht
18:41:06 <wycats> I'm not personally interested in pursuing it with my time
18:41:08 <noah> ack next
18:42:09 <noah> HT: I'm conficted. I think it's potentially very important. I get profoundly frustrated when,  knowledgeable journalists seem not to distinguish linking and embedding when reporting on serious cases involving extradition or other serious matters.
18:43:05 <noah> HT: Yes, different jurisdictions are different. I wish we could do the service of helping. We gave it a good shot. The comments from people who understand better what's neede have not been supportive. So, I'd love to see it move forward, but I can't do it. We may have to drop it.
18:43:10 <noah> ack nex
18:43:12 <noah> ack next
18:43:59 <ht> YL: The legal side gave us feedback that suggests workiing, as we have, only on the technical side, we won't get there -- to take this forward we need to recruit help on the legal side
18:44:07 <ht> s/workiing/working/
18:44:29 <ht> NM: This feels that something we should have been able to make work, if we had managed to stay focussed
18:44:51 <slightlyoff> it may be the caes that the legal community is improvising too in a vacuum of settled case law
18:44:59 <ht> ... but the feedback we got from the legal side was not all consistent, and in attempting to follow it we lost focus
18:45:09 <JeniT> q+
18:45:27 <noah> ack next
18:45:35 <ht> NM: When we tried to focus on the technology, I think we made some progress, but we couldn't quite close it
18:45:50 <ht> NM: I do hate to close something after so much effort
18:46:08 <ht> JT: Yes, but that is a sunk cost, and it probably is time to move on
18:46:41 <noah> q+ to say Jeni leads me to think that maybe the legal focus is what's made this difficult
18:46:44 <ht> JT: So maybe a finding or a REC is not the right vehicle for achieving our limited goal
18:47:13 <ht> ... So maybe realising that blog posts or articles in the press are legitimate TAG outputs
18:47:21 <ht> ... is the right thing to do for this
18:47:27 <slightlyoff> q+
18:47:31 <ht> NM: So keep it as a work item, or not?
18:47:38 <plinss> q+
18:47:49 <noah> ack next
18:47:50 <Zakim> noah, you wanted to say Jeni leads me to think that maybe the legal focus is what's made this difficult
18:47:51 <ht> JT: Keep it on the list of things to include in strategic priorties at the F2F
18:48:01 <noah> q+ to say Jeni leads me to think that maybe the legal focus is what's made this difficult
18:48:16 <ht> Ax: What was the driver in the first place, for taking this on?
18:50:02 <ht> NM: There has been a steady trickle of legal cases [in US and UK] which involved sites with links and/or embedding, where public discussion was just muddled.  And we did get, I think, requests from [the W3C's legal guy] Rigo Wenning, to help with this.
18:50:32 <ht> NM: We thought that a TAG finding on this would have more value than an individual's blog post
18:51:23 <ht> AR: So there was a specific request from lawyers for an explicit technical guidance
18:51:28 <JeniT> Jonathan brought Thinh along
18:51:30 <ht> s/guidance/guidance?/
18:51:37 <ht> s/Ax:/AR:/
18:51:41 <JeniT> Thinh from Creative Commons
18:52:01 <ht> HST: I am not sure we had an explicit request to start us off -- certainly some positive feedback once we got started
18:52:28 <Ashok> Yes. we had a chat with Thinh
18:52:40 <ht> AR: I think it would be a possible way forward to publish something pithy that says "Here's the relevant bits, in the TAG's opinion"
18:52:47 <slightlyoff> thanks
18:52:49 <slightlyoff> +1
18:53:06 <noah> Hmm. Did I not hear Alex suggest pointing to existing explanations?
18:53:24 <ht> NM: I think the problem is that the RFCs and related material is not at the right level for public consumption
18:53:59 <slightlyoff> I'm not trying to
18:54:06 <noah> . ACTION: Noah to schedule F2F discussion of whether and how to pursue Publishing and Linking
18:54:14 <ht> HST: I  think JT's suggestion is the best we've got
18:54:25 <ht> +1
18:54:26 <slightlyoff> and don't think we should try to in an absence of compelling demand from a userbase with authority
18:54:32 <noah> q?
18:54:42 <noah> ack slightlyoff
18:54:50 <ht> ack plinss
18:55:10 <ht> PL: Couldn't we simply put this on an official TAG blog
18:55:17 <ht> NM: We do indeed have such a blog
18:55:33 <ht> ... But we've used it for personal posting, rather than corporate
18:55:42 <ht> NM: The entire finding?
18:55:55 <ht> AM: It's long for a blog post, isn't it?
18:56:08 <ht> ... Maybe take one part of it -- extract highlights?
18:56:12 <JeniT> +1 for a series
18:56:23 <ht> PL: Break it up into a series of articles would be fine
18:56:40 <ht> http://www.w3.org/blog/tag/
18:56:55 <ht> AM: One on copyright, one on linking vs. embedding
18:57:20 <ht> NM: I'm concerned about the archival status of blog posts, compared to, say, W3C notes
18:57:45 <ht> ... Putting smaller pieces where they could be useful, yes, but not sure about doing it via a blog
18:57:52 <ht> NM: So what about notes?
18:58:21 <ht> NM: So some dimensions: how formal; what mechanism; how much TAG consensus required
18:59:26 <ht> ... And beyond the TAG, e.g. LM had been interested in the fact that REC-track gives some community buy-in
18:59:27 <noah> ACTION: Yves to figure out where our old TAG blog stuff is.
18:59:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-778 - Figure out where our old TAG blog stuff is. [on Yves Lafon - due 2013-01-31].
18:59:39 <ht> PL: CSS has its own blog. . .
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19:00:07 <ht> NM: Sure, just there is a history which we need to hook up with
19:00:11 <annevk> Zakim, details?
19:00:11 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, annevk.
19:00:18 <annevk> Zakim, passcode?
19:00:18 <Zakim> the conference code is 0824 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), annevk
19:00:35 <ht> PL: OK, let's try moving that forward again
19:00:53 <ht> ... tweet about it, and improve its visibility
19:00:55 <noah> . ACTION: Noah to schedule F2F discussion of whether and how to pursue Publishing and Linking
19:01:17 <ht> AM: Yes
19:01:28 <noah> ACTION: Noah to schedule F2F discussion of whether and how to pursue Publishing and Linking - Due 2013-03-01
19:01:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-779 - schedule F2F discussion of whether and how to pursue Publishing and Linking [on Noah Mendelsohn - due 2013-03-01].
19:01:31 <Zakim> +??P14
19:01:48 <ht> zakim, ? is annevk
19:01:48 <Zakim> +annevk; got it
19:03:14 <ht> Topic: Future of Privacy by design note and related privacy issues
19:03:29 <noah> ACTION-774?
19:03:29 <trackbot> ACTION-774 -- Peter Linss to frame F2F discussion of Privacy by design note, and possible followup up with privacy group. Due: 2013-01-08 -- due 2012-12-20 -- OPEN
19:03:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/774
19:04:03 <ht> NM: This started with work by Dan Appelquist wrt Javascript APIs for minimal disclosure
19:04:04 <slightlyoff> "object capabilities"
19:04:18 <ht> AM: Minimization
19:04:45 <ht> NM: Then Robin Berjon shifted the focus, as Dan A. left the TAG
19:04:51 <ht> ... And then Robin left
19:05:05 <Ashok> q+
19:05:09 <noah> q-
19:05:12 <noah> ack nextg
19:05:15 <noah> ack next
19:05:19 <ht> NM: And PL was given the action to take the existing content, slightly cleaned up, and publish it as a Note
19:05:50 <ht> AM: And we also agreed to ask the Privacy [WG?] to take this over
19:06:13 <ht> ... Also, Nick [?] is writing a document about fingerprinting, which makes up about half the content of our draft
19:06:16 <noah> q?
19:06:18 <ht> NM: So?
19:06:23 <ht> AM: Abandon it
19:06:28 <Ashok> s/Nock Doty/
19:06:42 <ht> s/Nick [?]/Nick Doty/
19:06:48 <Ashok> s/Nick/Nick Doty/
19:07:07 <ht> s/Nick Nick Doty/Nick Doty/
19:07:29 <ht> AM: I have had no answer from Pxx
19:07:38 <ht> NM: Draft me an email and I'll send it
19:08:10 <ht> PL: The idea was that by publishing it as a Note we could hand it over to PING
19:08:11 <Ashok> s/Pxx/PING/
19:08:24 <noah> ACTION: Ashok to draft note to PING asking them to pick up our incomplete work on privacy by design by APIs
19:08:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-780 - Draft note to PING asking them to pick up our incomplete work on privacy by design by APIs [on Ashok Malhotra - due 2013-01-31].
19:08:38 <ht> s/Privacy [WG?]/Privacy Interest Group (PING)/
19:09:25 <ht> NM: I'll wait a few days for comments from TAG members and then send it -- use tag@w3.org for that, please
19:09:28 <Ashok> PING: public-privacy@w3.org
19:09:53 <ht> Topic: ISSUE-57
19:10:49 <noah> HT: Jonathan and I made some progress at MIT in November. I will take this forward. Jeni's awaiting comments. Teaching full time. Won't do much between now and end of March
19:11:32 <noah> Try this link http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/products/defininguris.html
19:11:40 <ht> HST: JAR and I have made some progress, JT has improved her draft, we will make some progress but not much in the next few weeks
19:11:48 <noah> It's really more than ISSUE-57, we sort of use that as a shorthand name.
19:11:53 <ht> NM: How about a briefing at the F2F?
19:12:03 <ht> HST: Maybe -- ask me in a month
19:12:27 <noah> ACTION: Jeni to prepare reading and discussion on Defining URIS (ISSUE-57) for March F2F - Due 2013-03-01
19:12:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-781 - prepare reading and discussion on Defining URIS (ISSUE-57) for March F2F [on Jeni Tennison - due 2013-03-01].
19:12:38 <ht> JT: Yes -- I think it's appropriate to aim for feedback on the Primer and discussion about next steps
19:12:56 <Zakim> -ht
19:12:57 <JeniT> ScribeNick: JeniT
19:13:10 <JeniT> noah: this is also known as httpRange14
19:13:35 <JeniT> noah: this issue is about how to get information about things that aren't documents using HTTP
19:14:21 <JeniT> noah: why don't we have a session on F2F topics on next week's telcon
19:14:35 <JeniT> noah: please send emails with suggestions to the public mailing list
19:14:53 <wycats> noah: can you put a "layering" item on the F2F agenda. I could write up a sentence or paragraph if that would be helpful
19:15:22 <JeniT> Topic: XML/HTML Unification
19:15:43 <JeniT> noah: is there anything useful we can do about this today?
19:15:51 <JeniT> noah: I have an action to announce that it's done
19:16:05 <Ashok> Here is a link to the Privacy by Design document: http://darobin.github.com/api-design-privacy/api-design-privacy.html
19:16:36 <JeniT> noah: I took an action to schedule discussion of the DOM stuff at the F2F
19:16:40 <slightlyoff> thanks Ashok
19:16:48 <JeniT> … there's a raging discussion on polyglot on both the HTML and TAG mailing lists
19:17:13 <JeniT> … in part in reaction to the TAG's reply to Henri
19:17:34 <wycats> I am happy to wait until the F2F to discuss so that the new members can get a high-bandwidth dump of existing perspectives
19:17:39 <slightlyoff> sorry
19:17:39 <JeniT> … I'll wait to see what else people ask for me to schedule around this topic
19:17:41 <slightlyoff> q+
19:17:43 <slightlyoff> my fault
19:17:50 <noah> ack next
19:18:05 <wycats> 1+
19:18:07 <wycats> q+
19:18:26 <JeniT> Alex: I'd like to understand what's driving our interest here?
19:18:50 <JeniT> … what's the architectural principle, or is it because there's a disagreement?
19:19:02 <JeniT> noah: can we defer that to when Tim and/or Henry are with us?
19:19:44 <JeniT> … while HTML&JSON are increasingly being used, XML is still an important technology
19:20:13 <JeniT> … some people feel that publishing polyglot could help meet the requirements of those that want to publish HTML with an XML flavour
19:20:25 <JeniT> … we asked for the publication of the polyglot document
19:20:42 <JeniT> Anne: I was on the TF, and maybe the TAG asked for polyglot, but the TF didn't
19:20:58 <JeniT> noah: the TF surveyed the field, yes
19:21:08 <JeniT> … the TAG went further than the TF
19:21:11 <noah> q?
19:21:21 <noah> ack next
19:21:47 <JeniT> Yehuda: I think this is related to some of the issues that the new TAG members are interested in
19:21:56 <JeniT> … and we should have a discussion about this in a F2F
19:22:17 <JeniT> noah: we sometimes get requests that we have to respond to more quickly
19:22:35 <JeniT> Yehuda: we should respond to those, but a F2F discussion would be useful
19:22:57 <noah> ACTION: Noah to schedule F2F discussion of polyglot, the TAG's request to HTML WG on polygot, and HTML/XML Unification - Due 2013-03-01
19:22:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-782 - schedule F2F discussion of polyglot, the TAG's request to HTML WG on polygot, and HTML/XML Unification [on Noah Mendelsohn - due 2013-03-01].
19:23:09 <noah> q?
19:23:52 <JeniT> noah: please could existing TAG members go through your actions and either close them or send me email about what you want to do with them
19:24:14 <JeniT> … if there are other things that you want to discuss next week, please email them to me
19:24:27 <slightlyoff> I won't be able to attend next week's call (on vacation). Regrets.
19:24:46 <JeniT> I will scribe next week
19:24:53 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
19:24:54 <noah> ADJOURNED
19:24:54 <Zakim> -Marcos
19:24:58 <Zakim> -Yves
19:24:59 <Zakim> -slightlyoff
19:24:59 <Zakim> -JeniT
19:25:00 <Zakim> -plinss
19:25:08 <Zakim> -annevk
19:25:36 <Zakim> -wycats
19:25:58 <JeniT> rrsagent, draft minutes
19:25:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/24-tagmem-minutes.html JeniT
19:35:00 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, noah, in TAG_Weekly()1:00PM
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