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17:03:11 <mjs> Zakim, this is HTML
17:03:11 <Zakim> HTML matches both WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM and HTML_WG()12:00PM, mjs
17:03:17 <mjs> Zakim, this is HTML_WG
17:03:17 <Zakim> ok, mjs; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
17:03:28 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
17:03:28 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
17:03:45 <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aaaa
17:04:22 <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aabb
17:04:25 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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17:05:08 <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
17:05:08 <Zakim> +krisk; got it
17:05:09 <paulc> late joining since I have a telephone tech here trying to fix a line problem
17:05:34 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
17:05:34 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
17:05:35 <Zakim> +Mike
17:05:50 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:06:00 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:06:02 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
17:06:22 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:06:25 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft.a is me
17:06:25 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
17:06:26 <mjs> can everyone hear me? I’m talking but no one is responding
17:06:43 <janina> Cannot hear you, Maciej!
17:06:53 <mjs> I’ll try redialing
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17:07:55 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:07:59 <Eliot> zakim, microsoft.a has me
17:07:59 <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
17:08:14 <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aacc
17:08:19 <janina> Yes!
17:08:32 <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aacc is me?
17:08:32 <Zakim> +me?; got it
17:08:43 <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aacc is me
17:08:43 <Zakim> sorry, mjs, I do not recognize a party named '+1.415.595.aacc'
17:08:45 <jaymunro> what's involved with scribing?
17:08:51 <mjs> Zakim, me? is me
17:08:51 <Zakim> +mjs; got it
17:08:57 <cabanier> you type what people say
17:09:19 <cabanier> I can send minutes Jay
17:09:34 <cabanier> scribenick: jaymunro
17:10:01 <edoyle> zakim, Microsoft.a has me
17:10:01 <Zakim> +edoyle; got it
17:10:27 <jaymunro> ok
17:11:00 <jaymunro> action items due by 1/24/13 - none
17:11:00 <trackbot> Error finding 'items'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/users>.
17:11:26 <jaymunro> New issues this week:
17:11:36 <mjs> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
17:11:41 <jaymunro> topic:
17:12:18 <jaymunro> five tracking items
17:12:25 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
17:12:31 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
17:12:31 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
17:12:33 <jaymunro> first item is for poliglot spec.
17:13:16 <jaymunro> blog 282, microdata that is currently being surveyed. the preference poll closes today
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17:13:44 <jaymunro> tracker bug - request to add an identifyer
17:13:55 <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
17:13:56 <jaymunro> proposed an extension spec, could be published,
17:14:32 <jaymunro> tracker bug - change to the drag and drop processing model, A newly tracker requested model. not investigated completed.
17:14:44 <jaymunro> an extension requst could be a solution
17:14:45 <Marcos> zakim, what's the passcode?
17:14:46 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Marcos
17:14:58 <mjs> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15213
17:15:18 <jaymunro> TOPIC:
17:15:21 <cabanier> * jay, you need to start each sentence with the speaker *
17:15:22 <jaymunro> items closed last week
17:15:38 <jaymunro> MJS: topic items closed last week
17:16:13 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:16:28 <jaymunro> closed 1/16/13 - adopted CfC: to publish Media Source Extensions specification as a First
17:16:28 <jaymunro>    Public Working Draft (FPWD)
17:16:55 <Zakim> +yoav
17:16:59 <mjs> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/microdata-status-preference-poll/
17:17:12 <jaymunro> MJS: Topic microdata notes vs recommendation track survey - closing later today.
17:18:00 <jaymunro> MJS: If you have comments respond. 32 in favor of rec, 4 in favor of publishing as notes
17:19:21 <jaymunro> MJS: item closing this week - responsive images. We have active work on two areas, and chairs decided to handle it consistenly.
17:19:36 <jaymunro> MJS chairs are expected to close on it short.
17:20:05 <jaymunro> MARK : what is it that the responsive images community group should do? or just wait
17:20:05 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
17:20:05 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
17:20:24 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
17:20:35 <jaymunro> MJS: later in agenda will discuss - suggest we get back to that question later.
17:20:42 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] has paulc
17:20:42 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
17:20:47 <Marcos> s/MARK/MC/
17:21:11 <jaymunro> MJS: items closing next week - none
17:21:27 <Marcos> zaking, [IPcaller] is marcosc
17:21:39 <Marcos> zakim, [IPcaller] is marcosc
17:21:39 <Zakim> +marcosc; got it
17:21:40 <jaymunro> MJS: item new calls this week - none
17:21:49 <paulc> CfC on EME: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0102.html
17:21:51 <jaymunro> MJS: task force reports;
17:22:29 <jaymunro> TOPIC: Testing task force
17:22:41 <krisk> We met last week notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2013Jan/0006.html
17:23:12 <jaymunro> Krisk: sync between git and w3c test site. people are fixing some broken test from move to GIT.
17:23:17 <krisk> Working on getting sync between git -> http://www.w3c-test.org/
17:23:43 <Zakim> + +1.613.287.aadd
17:23:46 <jaymunro> PAULC: where is the definiteve test suite
17:24:21 <jaymunro> Krisk: once it was moved to GIT it doesn't exist, but official test is under construction.
17:24:48 <jaymunro> when fixed up, will be moved to w3 test site. mike is working on it.
17:24:50 <MikeSmith> it is going to take a little time yet to get the sync to w3c-test.org again
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17:25:22 <jaymunro> PAULC: any significance to chinas block on the git test suite. W3c announced in a new host. Appears to be resolved.
17:25:30 <MikeSmith> darobin and I are talking with the W3C systems team about how best to get the sync working
17:25:44 <jaymunro> Krisk: this is the type of thing that we don't control when we've moved away from W3 resources.
17:26:02 <jaymunro> MJS: TOPIC: accessiblity
17:26:05 <jaymunro> taskforce
17:26:47 <jaymunro> Janina: closing an old action items. a couple ofitems pending
17:27:08 <paulc> q+
17:27:23 <mjs> ack paulc
17:27:40 <MikeSmith> s/MJS: TOPIC:/Topic:/
17:28:03 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:28:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/24-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
17:28:06 <jaymunro> Paulc: wanted to report back to the wg that when he sent transition request to chairs, someone pointed out what ARIA was in the document. Judy brewer suggested that there needs to be changes to answer question.
17:28:22 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make logs public
17:28:27 <jaymunro> maybe changes title "using ARIA in HTML", rather than just ARIA in HTML
17:29:07 <jaymunro> JANINA: document requires some editing that were missing. It couldn't have been published anyway. Nothing substantial, but needs work.
17:29:21 <jaymunro> PAULC: Asked editer to make changes and send back to WG when done:
17:30:48 <MikeSmith> I will help more with getting the ARIA-in-HTML doc pubrules-ready. Sorry, it's my fault it's not yet, because I told Steve I would do it but was not able to make time yet. Will try to have it done tomorrow.
17:31:02 <Zakim> +Tantek
17:31:15 <tantek> zakim, mute tantek
17:31:15 <Zakim> Tantek should now be muted
17:31:50 <jaymunro> PAULC: perspective cfc for an extension spec - Long Mask or long decriptions in HTML.
17:31:56 <jaymunro> there was one commenter that in our draft we didn't characterize their situation. Charles is going to clarify and then it can be forward to wg.
17:32:04 <jaymunro> Action on charles to fix
17:32:04 <trackbot> Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/users>.
17:32:18 <jaymunro> Paul:
17:32:18 <jaymunro> what's the status on alt work
17:33:36 <MikeSmith> q+ to say the W3C webmaster told me we can't publish the MSE spec today, but he will publish it on Tuesday the 30th instead
17:33:51 <jaymunro> Janina: I have a draft in my draft folder. Just need to get Yuris notes in
17:34:00 <mjs> ack MikeSmith
17:34:00 <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say the W3C webmaster told me we can't publish the MSE spec today, but he will publish it on Tuesday the 30th instead
17:34:02 <jaymunro> MJS : media task for
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17:35:07 <jaymunro> PAUL: media source extensions - successfull call for extensions  publication is immeninent. Task for alternates meeting and will try to close out the last 10 bugs
17:35:16 <jaymunro> PAUL: encrypted media was mentioned. Task force requestred a CFC.  - chairs will take up meeting next week.
17:35:33 <jaymunro> MIKESMITH: mike: publication on tuesdays and thrusdays. We missed today, so we'll publsih on tuesday the 30th'
17:35:43 <jaymunro> PAULC: thanks for the report.
17:35:56 <jaymunro> MJS: Other business section
17:35:57 <edoyle> s/Long Mask/longdesc/
17:36:21 <jaymunro> MJS: a new round of publications- chairs will start a round of discussion for next batch of pubs.
17:37:02 <jaymunro> MJS: we'll want a heartbeat soon. We've seen a few where the wds were last published in oct, so we'll want to publish them.
17:37:25 <jaymunro> do we publish drafts that are in cr? Usually we don't because they drop back to wd.
17:37:44 <jaymunro> W3c process recommends heart beat drafts for every doc that isn't in its end state.
17:38:00 <jaymunro> one document needs to be published every 3 months.
17:38:52 <paulc> See http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Publications for a description of our current publications and editors drafts.
17:39:04 <paulc> q+
17:39:06 <jaymunro> the responsive images draft, pictures elements,appear to be ready. srcset not looking ready. Html5.1 and canvas potentially could be published.
17:39:15 <tantek> q+ to mention CR and heartbeats
17:39:19 <jaymunro> MJS: Any comments?
17:39:36 <tantek> zakim, unmute tantek
17:39:36 <Zakim> Tantek should no longer be muted
17:39:39 <paulc> HTML 5.1 and Canvas2D Level 2 were published in Dec 2012
17:39:42 <jaymunro> PAULC: html5.1 and canvas were published in december
17:40:28 <jaymunro> MJS: If we go as long as March, we would need new ones.
17:41:13 <jaymunro> PAULC: we didn't publish extension guides, dev guide, etc in Dec with other heartbeats
17:41:52 <jaymunro> paulc, why didn't we publish?
17:42:29 <jaymunro> MIKESMITH: a lot of work to get docs ready, could have been that we minimized the on track ones that we have a deadline for.
17:43:00 <MikeSmith> q?
17:43:19 <jaymunro> PAULC: our goal was to get drafts out. Oct published documents again, along with others.
17:43:34 <mjs> ack paulc
17:43:37 <mjs> ack tantek
17:43:37 <Zakim> tantek, you wanted to mention CR and heartbeats
17:44:09 <jaymunro> TANTEK: quickly comment. good idea to continue heartbeats, to keep them up to date.
17:44:40 <yoav> q+
17:45:12 <jaymunro> TANTEK: caveat, if substantial changes, we need to take it back to wd. leave it up to the editors that there are any substantial changes, but if are, publish heartbeat. Then drop to last call if big changes.
17:45:34 <mjs> ack yoav
17:46:06 <jaymunro> YOAV: responsive images can move forward without waiting on srcset. The two can move forward indepenendly.
17:46:25 <jaymunro> HOBER: I agree, they can be published independently
17:46:35 <jaymunro> MJS: is srcset ready?
17:47:11 <jaymunro> YOAV: would like to resolve bug 20176 first, on track to publish for next week.
17:47:19 <tantek> zakim, mute tantek
17:47:19 <Zakim> Tantek should now be muted
17:47:54 <jaymunro> MJS: TOPIC: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary
17:48:08 <paulc> I have to leave early.  sorry.
17:48:09 <hober> s/YOAV/HOBER/
17:48:22 <jaymunro> MJS: Published last week. GIves overview of recent happenings in open web platform. Don't need to go through it now, but comments?
17:48:43 <jaymunro> MJS: Any other items on the agenda?
17:49:01 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
17:49:13 <jaymunro> MJS: Asking for volunteers to scribe?
17:49:13 <Zakim> -yoav
17:49:15 <Zakim> -marcosc
17:49:46 <krisk> I can scribe
17:50:04 <jaymunro> MJS: Krisk will scribe. (thank you)
17:50:16 <Zakim> -hober
17:50:18 <Zakim> -cabanier
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17:50:48 <cabanier> rssagent, make minutes
17:51:19 <jaymunro> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:51:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/24-html-wg-minutes.html jaymunro
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