13:46:28 RRSAgent has joined #mlw-lt 13:46:28 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-irc 13:46:35 meeting: MLW-LT WG 13:46:38 chair: felix 13:47:20 regrets: christian, david 13:47:28 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Jan/0142.html 13:48:22 topic: role call 13:48:24 tbd ... 13:51:29 regrets+ olaf-michael 13:51:40 present+ fsasaki 13:51:47 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki 13:53:02 regrets+ arle 13:59:16 kfritsche has joined #mlw-lt 14:00:14 pnietoca has joined #mlw-lt 14:00:42 present+ pnietoca 14:00:44 philr has joined #mlw-lt 14:01:00 leroy has joined #mlw-lt 14:01:14 present+ philr 14:01:23 present+ leroy 14:01:42 mdelolmo has joined #mlw-lt 14:02:03 giuseppe has joined #mlw-lt 14:02:11 present+ mdelolmo 14:02:16 Arle has joined #mlw-lt 14:02:16 joerg has joined #mlw-lt 14:02:22 present+ Arle 14:02:29 present+ joerg 14:03:00 Ankit has joined #mlw-lt 14:03:17 present+ Ankit 14:03:17 Jirka has joined #mlw-lt 14:04:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki 14:04:23 daveL has joined #mlw-lt 14:04:27 present+ Jirka 14:04:40 present+ daveL 14:04:40 present+ Karl 14:05:09 DomJones1 has joined #mlw-lt 14:05:12 lre 14:05:14 ;re 14:05:24 present+ DomJones 14:05:30 present+ Jirka 14:06:06 scribe: Jirka 14:06:10 scribe: Jirka 14:06:11 topic: LC feedback 14:06:18 http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling 14:06:49 Marcis has joined #mlw-lt 14:06:52 Felix: we have 52 comments, we need to distribute them in order to process them in a timely manner 14:07:01 present+ Marcis 14:07:20 Topic: LC issues 14:07:20 topic: annotatorsRef 14:07:27 http://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item07 14:07:59 Milan has joined #mlw-lt 14:08:49 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki 14:08:57 Pedro has joined #mlw-lt 14:08:57 present+ Milan 14:09:24 Dave: Some people are concerned what will happen when more people will add annotatorsRef into the same document. Probably something like best practice for this will be need. 14:10:13 present+ Pedro 14:10:33 ... Reply will be: we are aware of the issue, but there is no easy solution. 14:10:57 Felix: We need to answer to comment and get feedback back (satisfied/not satisfied) 14:11:47 ... commenters can disagree but can agree to move forward we just record it 14:12:17 ... if someone object to move forward (formal objection) this has to be discussed with director, there is a lot of paperwork connected to this 14:12:23 ... so we should try to avoid this 14:13:44 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71 14:15:03 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki 14:15:05 Action: Dlewis6 to Contact original commenter and see whether Yves additions to comment are what was meant there 14:15:05 Created ACTION-386 - Contact original commenter and see whether Yves additions to comment are what was meant there [on David Lewis - due 2013-01-28]. 14:15:22 Clemens has joined #mlw-lt 14:15:29 present +Clemens 14:15:33 topic: provenance record ordering 14:15:59 http://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item08 14:16:20 Felix: can we close it as is? 14:16:21 http://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item08 14:18:33 Felix: there is no strong requirement for timestamp inside group 14:19:14 Action: Dlewis6 to Contact original commenter about real need of timestamp 14:19:14 Created ACTION-387 - Contact original commenter about real need of timestamp [on David Lewis - due 2013-01-28]. 14:20:11 topic: Disambiguation and term 14:20:21 Postponed till F2F where Christian can dial-in 14:20:45 topic: Sorting LC comments 14:20:46 Domain discussion will be postponed as well 14:20:59 http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling 14:21:29 Felix: We need to assign "shepherd" to each comment 14:22:03 issue-67? 14:22:03 ISSUE-67 -- Change definition of regular expression for allowed characters -- open 14:22:03 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/67 14:22:25 yves and shaun 14:22:44 issue-68? 14:22:44 ISSUE-68 -- Disambiguation (and term) -- open 14:22:44 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/68 14:22:57 Sure 14:22:59 marcis 14:23:09 issue-69? 14:23:09 ISSUE-69 -- recursive nesting of external rules -- open 14:23:09 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/69 14:23:27 pablo 14:23:28 Pablo 14:23:36 issue-70? 14:23:36 ISSUE-70 -- Defined order of precedence missing inherited local values -- open 14:23:36 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/70 14:23:54 felix 14:23:54 felix 14:24:05 issue-71? 14:24:05 ISSUE-71 -- Section 5.8 (annotatorsRef) -- open 14:24:05 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71 14:24:07 issue-71? 14:24:07 ISSUE-71 -- Section 5.8 (annotatorsRef) -- open 14:24:07 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71 14:24:10 dave 14:24:13 issue-72? 14:24:13 ISSUE-72 -- Section 8.12 (Provenance Data Category) -- open 14:24:13 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/72 14:24:15 dave 14:24:54 Action to all - look at all issue before F2F in Prague 14:24:54 Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at . 14:24:58 issue-73? 14:24:58 ISSUE-73 -- NIF comments -- open 14:24:58 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/73 14:24:59 felix 14:25:05 issue-74? 14:25:05 ISSUE-74 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 WD-its20-20121206 - Section 1.1 (Relation to ITS 1.0 and New Principles) -- open 14:25:05 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/74 14:25:52 dave 14:26:45 issue-75? 14:26:45 ISSUE-75 -- Comments related to "domain" -- open 14:26:45 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/75 14:27:02 Jörg 14:27:13 issue-76? 14:27:13 ISSUE-76 -- clarification of "inconsistency" quality issue type needed -- open 14:27:13 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/76 14:27:40 Arle 14:27:52 issue-77? 14:27:52 ISSUE-77 -- Precedence of global rules in HTML if both links and inline rules with "script" are available -- open 14:27:52 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/77 14:28:06 Jirka 14:28:21 issue-78? 14:28:21 ISSUE-78 -- I18N-ISSUE-203: Use of rel values in HTML -- open 14:28:21 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/78 14:28:27 Jirka 14:28:46 issue-79? 14:28:46 ISSUE-79 -- I18N-ISSUE-204: Use of namespaces and HTML -- open 14:28:46 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/79 14:29:00 Jirka 14:29:09 issue-80? 14:29:09 ISSUE-80 -- I18N-ISSUE-205: Examples of html markup in section 6 -- open 14:29:09 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/80 14:29:35 Felix 14:29:51 issue-81? 14:29:51 ISSUE-81 -- I18N-ISSUE-207: Term data category and dfn element -- open 14:29:51 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/81 14:30:05 related to ISSUE-89 14:30:44 Felix: HTML already provides something like ITS markup already, for examply its:term can be explicitly marked by using element 14:31:02 Well the dfn has a much narrower use case than Terminology ... 14:31:07 That is the issue ... 14:31:19 (as I understand it) 14:31:46 Felix will create proposal for both issues (81 and 89) 14:31:58 issue-82? 14:31:58 ISSUE-82 -- I18N-ISSUE-208: Mapping domains to nothing -- open 14:31:58 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/82 14:32:20 dave 14:32:32 issue-83? 14:32:32 ISSUE-83 -- Notes on loc quality issue section -- open 14:32:32 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/83 14:33:06 Christian 14:33:32 issue-84? 14:33:32 ISSUE-84 -- translate ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open 14:33:32 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/84 14:33:50 tadej has joined #mlw-lt 14:33:55 David 14:35:01 issue-85? 14:35:01 ISSUE-85 -- NLP Interchange Format (NIF) - 1.0/2.0, Canonical XML, Unicode Normalization Forms -- closed 14:35:01 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/85 14:35:02 felix 14:35:22 issue-86 14:35:22 ISSUE-86 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-209: Implementation commitment -- open 14:35:22 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/86 14:35:24 felix 14:35:27 issue-87? 14:35:27 ISSUE-87 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-210: Whitespace in ruby example -- open 14:35:27 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/87 14:35:29 felix 14:35:32 issue-88? 14:35:32 ISSUE-88 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-211: Quote element in HTML [should be cite, q, or blockquote] -- open 14:35:32 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/88 14:35:35 felix 14:36:31 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/open 14:37:24 issue-90? 14:37:25 ISSUE-90 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-214: directionality should be made normative, with informative additions -- open 14:37:25 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/90 14:37:33 felix 14:37:36 issue-91? 14:37:36 ISSUE-91 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-215: Parts of Ruby section should be removed -- open 14:37:36 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/91 14:38:00 wait till I18N WG will provide additional feedback 14:38:05 issue-92? 14:38:05 ISSUE-92 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-216: Locale filter note -- open 14:38:05 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/92 14:38:15 Yves 14:38:35 issue-93? 14:38:35 ISSUE-93 -- Case-insensitivity mode for predefined tokens undefined; should be ASCII-case-insensitivity -- open 14:38:35 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/93 14:38:55 Jirka 14:39:04 issue-94? 14:39:04 ISSUE-94 -- Use of XSD number types is inconsistent with numbers in HTML -- open 14:39:04 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/94 14:39:25 Jirka 14:40:25 issue-95? 14:40:25 ISSUE-95 -- I18N-ISSUE-217: Missing support for localizable items that are not translatable -- open 14:40:25 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/95 14:41:04 Phil 14:41:09 issue-96? 14:41:09 ISSUE-96 -- ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open 14:41:09 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/96 14:41:27 dave 14:41:36 probably this is duplicate 14:41:41 issue-97? 14:41:41 ISSUE-97 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD - HTML translate -- open 14:41:41 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/97 14:41:59 Karl 14:42:03 issue-98? 14:42:03 ISSUE-98 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-238: Selecting attributes using local selection -- open 14:42:03 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/98 14:42:51 Milan 14:43:06 issue-99 14:43:06 ISSUE-99 -- I18N-ISSUE-239: Selecting attributes using Selectors -- open 14:43:06 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/99 14:43:08 Milan 14:43:14 issue-100? 14:43:14 ISSUE-100 -- I18N-ISSUE-240: Bad example: Hard-coded coordinates [ITS-20] -- open 14:43:14 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/100 14:43:19 Felix 14:43:22 issue-101? 14:43:22 ISSUE-101 -- I18N-ISSUE-241: Directionality section doesn't mention isolates [ITS-20] -- open 14:43:22 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/101 14:43:24 Felix 14:43:35 issue-102? 14:43:35 ISSUE-102 -- I18N-ISSUE-242: Clarify case-insensitive match for domains [ITS-20] -- open 14:43:35 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/102 14:43:46 Pablo 14:43:50 issue-103? 14:43:50 ISSUE-103 -- I18N-ISSUE-243: Clarify filtering algorithm for locale filters [ITS-20] -- open 14:43:50 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/103 14:44:03 Yves/Shaun 14:44:12 issue-104? 14:44:12 ISSUE-104 -- I18N-ISSUE-244: Require recent version of Unicode [ITS-20] -- open 14:44:12 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/104 14:44:17 Felix 14:44:27 issue-105? 14:44:27 ISSUE-105 -- I18N-ISSUE-245: Consider replacing Unicode block escapes with script escapes [ITS-20] -- open 14:44:27 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/105 14:44:43 Yves 14:44:53 it's related to regular expression 14:44:59 issue-106? 14:45:00 ISSUE-106 -- I18N-ISSUE-246: Clarify character encoding behavior when calculating storage size [ITS-20] -- open 14:45:00 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/106 14:45:02 Karl 14:45:05 issue-107? 14:45:05 ISSUE-107 -- I18N-ISSUE-247: Clarify interpretation of line breaks when calculating storage size [ITS-20] -- open 14:45:05 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/107 14:45:07 Karl 14:45:32 issue-108? 14:45:32 ISSUE-108 -- locNote ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open 14:45:32 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/108 14:45:59 Dave 14:46:04 issue-109 14:46:04 ISSUE-109 -- disambiguation ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open 14:46:04 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/109 14:46:06 Dave 14:46:30 topic: prague f2f 14:46:49 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/PragueJan2013f2f#Objectives 14:48:32 Felix will put slots for implementations integration into agenda 14:49:12 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/PragueJan2013f2f#Participants 14:50:02 Adjourned 14:50:22 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki 14:50:24 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:50:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html Jirka 14:50:46 Jirka has left #mlw-lt 14:51:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki 15:02:04 Yves_ has joined #mlw-lt 15:03:14 Sorry I've got the time mixed up. 15:03:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki 15:07:18 Ok 15:18:58 fsasaki has joined #mlw-lt 15:19:17 Zakim has left #mlw-lt 15:19:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki