18:02:13 RRSAgent has joined #aapi 18:02:13 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-irc 18:02:22 Zakim has joined #aapi 18:02:40 zakim, this is #aapi 18:02:40 sorry, clown, I do not see a conference named '#aapi' in progress or scheduled at this time 18:02:58 zakim, this will be aapi 18:02:58 ok, clown; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago 18:03:37 WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM has now started 18:03:44 +[GVoice] 18:04:01 zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer 18:04:01 +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it 18:04:11 zakim , I am Joseph_Scheuhammer 18:04:19 zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer 18:04:19 ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer 18:04:59 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jan/0025.html 18:05:11 agenda: this 18:05:35 agenda+ Preparing for last call draft -- can we set a "document freeze" date regarding changes to the UAIG? 18:05:55 agenda+ ACTION-891: Write testable statements for aria-describedby: issue with UAIG mapping table for UAI -- no field to put description into. 18:06:09 agenda+ Issues/Actions review: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10 18:06:25 agenda+ Bugzilla review: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116 18:06:33 agenda + be done 18:06:47 scribenick: clown 18:07:18 rrsagent, make log public 18:08:26 agenda? 18:09:09 cyns has joined #aapi 18:10:13 +[Microsoft] 18:11:42 zakim, microsoft has me 18:11:42 +cyns; got it 18:11:47 agenda order is [2, 1] 18:11:50 agenda? 18:12:10 topic: action-891 18:12:16 action-891? 18:12:16 ACTION-891 -- Matthew King to write testable statements for aria-describedby -- due 2012-03-05 -- OPEN 18:12:16 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/891 18:15:02 CS: for UIA, we point to the accesible object in the tree that contains the description. 18:15:09 JS: what about multiple IDREFs? 18:15:17 CS: good question. I'd have to look. 18:15:26 CS: assign me the action, and I'll do the test cases. 18:15:33 JS: okay. 18:16:57 -[Microsoft] 18:22:56 +[Microsoft] 18:23:17 zakim, microsoft has me 18:23:17 +cyns; got it 18:23:18 topic: issue-546 18:23:22 issue-546? 18:23:22 ISSUE-546 -- When aria-invalid="true/false", the state mapping table is misleading for UIA. -- open 18:23:22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/546 18:24:43 js: aria-invalid is "opposite" of IsValidForForm in UIA 18:24:59 CS: yes, we should change it in the UAIG to flp the sense. 18:25:02 JS: okay. 18:25:40 ACTION: Joseph to edit UIA cells in states/properties table for aria-invalid and UIA to flip the sense when aria-invalid is true or false. 18:25:41 Created ACTION-1149 - Edit UIA cells in states/properties table for aria-invalid and UIA to flip the sense when aria-invalid is true or false. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due 2013-01-24]. 18:28:19 action-1143 18:28:19 ACTION-1143 -- Cynthia Shelly to (1) identify what pattern that invalid is mapped to (2) to see if it's implemented for widget roles -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN 18:28:19 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1143 18:28:51 CS: wait a second. I'm not sure what happens when aria-invalid is "spelling" or "grammar". IsDataValid is just a boolean. 18:28:59 CS: is there an action. 18:29:06 JS: yes, action-1143. 18:29:30 CS: that's assigned to me, and it's due next week. Let me take a look. 18:32:40 JS: okay, I'll hold off on the edit until you have done the research. 18:37:23 topic: Edit freeze date 18:37:35 JS: what about action-842? 18:37:39 action-842? 18:37:40 ACTION-842 -- Cynthia Shelly to create a diagram to support 1.2 A11Y vs DOM tree -- due 2011-06-21 -- OPEN 18:37:40 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/842 18:37:50 CS: that's not a blocker; just a nice to have. 18:39:09 action-851? 18:39:10 ACTION-851 -- Cynthia Shelly to look through APG design patterns re: menus for examples that relate to UAIG 5.8.4 -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN 18:39:10 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/851 18:40:31 CS: relates to section 5.8.1 18:40:33 JS: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_state-change 18:41:09 JS: is it 5.8.4 18:41:11 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_state-change 18:41:21 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_menus 18:41:34 CS: I think this is for testing. 18:43:37 CS: I'm looking at the minutes to see what this is all about. 18:44:21 CS: not sure what this is all about. Can you take it back to the Mon meeting? 18:44:27 JS: okay. 18:44:34 CS: Maybe Michael remembers. 18:47:07 ISSUE-550? 18:47:07 ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open 18:47:07 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550 18:51:09 ACTION-1104? 18:51:09 ACTION-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to define what the accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN 18:51:10 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104 18:51:23 JS: relates to the earlier aria-describedby issue. 18:56:14 -[Microsoft] 18:56:18 oh ok 18:56:37 rrsagent, make minutes 18:56:37 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown 18:57:05 regrets: David_Bolter 18:57:09 rrsagent, make minutes 18:57:09 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown 18:57:34 rrsagent, make minutes 18:57:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown 19:00:35 JS: I have created issue-550 for tracking actions that require edits to the UAIG. 19:00:44 issue-550? 19:00:44 ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open 19:00:44 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550 19:01:08 JS: I will look through the action items and associate them with issue-550. 19:01:46 JS: I will send out an email early next week to Cynthia and David to look over and see if those associated actions are relevant and or a complete list. 19:02:03 JS: we can discuss further on email or at next week's UAIG meeting. 19:02:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown 19:02:50 zakim, bye 19:02:50 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Joseph_Scheuhammer, cyns 19:02:50 Zakim has left #aapi 19:02:58 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown 19:03:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown 19:04:22 Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference: UAIG 19:04:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown 19:04:56 Chair: Joseph_Scheuhamemr 19:04:58 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown 21:16:22 davidb_ has joined #aapi