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21:31:04 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be INDIE
21:31:04 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
21:31:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference
21:31:05 <trackbot> Date: 12 December 2012
21:31:11 <janina> zakim, room for 12?
21:31:12 <Zakim> ok, janina; conference Team_(indie-ui)21:31Z scheduled with code 46343 (INDIE) for 60 minutes until 2231Z
21:31:24 <Zakim> Team_(indie-ui)21:31Z has now started
21:31:30 <Zakim> +hober
21:31:32 <Zakim> + +1.408.423.aaaa
21:31:38 <Zakim> +??P2
21:31:45 <jcraig> Zakim, aaaa is [Apple]
21:31:45 <Zakim> +[Apple]; got it
21:31:52 <Zakim> +??P3
21:31:55 <hober> Zakim, Apple has jcraig
21:31:55 <Zakim> +jcraig; got it
21:32:20 <Zakim> +??P4
21:32:59 <jcraig> Zakim, ??P4 is Janina
21:32:59 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
21:33:09 <Zakim> +??P5
21:33:12 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P5 is Michael_Cooper
21:33:12 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
21:33:46 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P3 is Jason_White
21:33:46 <Zakim> +Jason_White; got it
21:34:07 <MichaelC> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:34:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see hober, [Apple], ??P2, Jason_White, Janina, Michael_Cooper
21:34:09 <Zakim> [Apple] has jcraig
21:34:18 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P2 is Andy_Heath
21:34:18 <Zakim> +Andy_Heath; got it
21:34:40 <janina> Meeting: IndieUI Task Force Teleconference
21:34:40 <janina> Chair: Janina_Sajka
21:34:40 <janina> agenda+ Telecon Time Scheduling
21:34:40 <janina> agenda+ Editor's Draft?  https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/open
21:34:40 <janina> agenda+ Closed Issues https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/closed
21:34:43 <janina> agenda+ Open Issues https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/open
21:34:45 <janina> agenda+ Scribe for our Next Teleconference (on 9 January)
21:34:48 <janina> agenda+ Be Done
21:35:40 <janina>  agenda+ Additional Tasks for WG Members?
21:36:20 <MichaelC> agenda order 2, 3, 4, 7, 1, 6
21:36:35 <janina> zakim, pick a victim
21:36:35 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Andy_Heath
21:37:03 <MichaelC> scribe: andy
21:37:04 <janina> scribe: Andy_Heath
21:37:09 <MichaelC> scribeNick: andy
21:37:37 <andy> defer telecom time to top of house as others may join
21:37:45 <andy> s/house/hour
21:37:52 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
21:37:52 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Telecon Time Scheduling" taken up [from janina]
21:38:06 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 2
21:38:06 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Editor's Draft?  https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/open" taken up [from janina]
21:40:16 <jcraig> Since last call, added Preferences to User Context and UIManipulationRequestEvent to Events module http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndieUI/shortlog
21:41:14 <andy> james is learning IDL and Jason's stuff has been useful
21:41:31 <andy> Yanina - how much more is needed before publishing a working draft
21:41:56 <andy> yanina - getting some pressure from w3 to get something out
21:43:04 <MichaelC> s/Yanina/Janina/G
21:43:09 <jcraig> s/yanina/janina/g
21:43:38 <andy> q+
21:44:32 <andy> good explanatory text is missing
21:44:38 <janina> q?
21:45:11 <andy> james - needs e.g. declarative acttirbute
21:45:35 <MichaelC> ack j
21:45:52 <janina> ack jas
21:46:27 <andy> jason - explanatory text useful to reviewers - maybe the declarative attribute may not make it - useful to use editorial notes where not complete
21:47:00 <andy> jason - need to bring into line with w3c expectations
21:47:51 <MichaelC> q+
21:48:14 <andy> jason - there is a list of riles and requirements
21:48:36 <andy> Michael - pretty sure the doc does meet requirements
21:49:07 <MichaelC> ack me
21:50:19 <MichaelC> -> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndieUI/raw-file/tip/src/indie-ui-events.html IndieUI Events
21:50:33 <jcraig> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndieUI/raw-file/tip/src/indie-ui-context.html
21:51:21 <jcraig> Andy: User Context draft is not ready for publication.
21:51:41 <jcraig> James: Agreed. Events Module is close, but UC is not yet ready.
21:52:49 <janina> q?
21:52:54 <janina> ack andy
21:54:35 <janina> ack jason
21:54:56 <andy> James - would be good to publish events first then user context later
21:55:11 <andy> jason - missing titles and stuff in the docs
21:55:52 <andy> q_
21:55:54 <andy> q+
21:56:39 <andy> copy seen locally via mercurial looks different because of js exectution
21:56:48 <janina> ack and
21:58:53 <Zakim> -hober
22:00:23 <andy> some issues with stuff looking different because of contextual js permissions
22:01:50 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/open Open actions
22:02:08 <jcraig> https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/2
22:02:38 <andy> open actions on  Events
22:02:50 <andy> 13, 14, 154 can wait until after V1
22:02:57 <andy> s/154/15
22:03:48 <andy> 16,17, 19, 20 all on media/voulum-up-down etc. can wait till after v1
22:05:18 <andy> 25,26 came up at f2f - what do so after something is seleted - after first draft
22:06:15 <jcraig> s/v1/FPWD/
22:06:25 <jcraig> s/V1/FPWD/
22:07:02 <jcraig> https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/28
22:07:38 <andy> 28 leave as-is
22:08:09 <andy> 28 - close
22:09:39 <andy> 29 use cases for opera coming but not come yet - not needed to wait for FPWD
22:09:55 <andy> 31 can wait till after FPWD
22:10:38 <andy> also intro text and at actions attribute
22:10:58 <jcraig> ACTION: jcraig to complete introductory explanatory text for Events Module
22:10:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-36 - Complete introductory explanatory text for Events Module [on James Craig - due 2012-12-19].
22:12:02 <jcraig> ACTION: jcraig to add @ui-actions attribute which declares event "receiver" (as opposed to event target and event listener)
22:12:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-37 - Add @ui-actions attribute which declares event "receiver" (as opposed to event target and event listener) [on James Craig - due 2012-12-19].
22:12:04 <andy> 35, 36, 37 need to be completed before FPWD
22:19:01 <andy> Meeting time issue - problem that Janina cannot make all of the 5pm-6pm EST call time but could make all of it
22:19:12 <andy> s/all of it/some to it/
22:19:31 <andy> s/some to it/some of it/
22:20:21 <andy> proposal - Jsnina run first half, Michael second half
22:20:44 <andy> s/jsnina/janina
22:21:24 <andy> DECISION: move back to 22.00 UTC
22:22:00 <andy> will need revisiting when we shift clocks again
22:29:48 <andy> User context:: Andy posted some intro text for a preferences section on the context - no comments received
22:30:17 <andy> issue 1:and 2 - in the draft, now closed
22:31:29 <andy> can be thinking about privacy in the user context stuff
22:32:23 <andy> Michael - would be great to identify a test author to lead testing
22:33:04 <andy> Michael - need someone to rationalise the use case content on the wiki
22:33:59 <andy> Michael - needs someone to do dependency reviews on other w3c specs and other groups outside
22:35:43 <andy> next meeting Jan 9th at Boston Time then 23rd Jan on Oz time
22:37:16 <Zakim> -[Apple]
22:37:20 <Zakim> -Jason_White
22:37:26 <Zakim> -Janina
22:37:36 <jcraig> jcraig has left #indie-ui
22:37:49 <andy> zakim, list attendees
22:37:49 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been hober, +1.408.423.aaaa, jcraig, Janina, Michael_Cooper, Jason_White, Andy_Heath
22:38:21 <andy> rrsagent, make minutes
22:38:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-indie-ui-minutes.html andy
22:39:30 <andy> zakim, rssagent, bye
22:39:30 <Zakim> I don't understand 'rssagent, bye', andy
22:39:33 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
22:39:41 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
22:39:41 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-indie-ui-actions.rdf :
22:39:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jcraig to complete introductory explanatory text for Events Module [1]
22:39:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-indie-ui-irc#T22-10-58
22:39:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jcraig to add @ui-actions attribute which declares event "receiver" (as opposed to event target and event listener) [2]
22:39:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-indie-ui-irc#T22-12-02
22:39:43 <MichaelC> zakim, bye
22:39:43 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were hober, +1.408.423.aaaa, jcraig, Janina, Michael_Cooper, Jason_White, Andy_Heath
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