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<trackbot> Date: 10 December 2012
<Arnaud> dret, it's "here"
<Arnaud> zakim is picky
<dret> hello everybody!
<AndyS> zaki, ??P27 is me
<SteveBattle> Sorry if it was me
this is like zork
<MacTed> best to ignore unidentified caller...
<JohnArwe> ruben and sandro emailed regrets
ok, sometimes my connection breaks
+1 read it but was not there
JohnArwe: So there was an indexical problem under 4 proposed and resolved, not clear who it was
APPROVED: minutes of last week
there seems to have been at TPAC a preference for March
Arnaud: going over the situation as decided by TPAC and available online ( xxx ? )
... for reasons of it being close to a lot of people.
Arnaud: was wondering how to go
about this. A Poll?, ....
... nobody seems to be voicing an opinion one way or the other.
<SteveS> +1 for 3 days, since we go through the trouble of traveling that far
Arnaud: 14-16 of March seems is discussed. but 13-15 would be better as it does not cover meeting on saturday
<SteveBattle> +1 for 3 days
roger: supports 3 days
<JohnArwe> march 16 is a saturday too
Arnaud: 13-15 in Boston would be
... needs to verify with MIT
... if those dates are workable
ashok: why not start on the 12, which is Tuesday?
Arnaud: Bart had a conflict on
... assuming that Erik can get the meeting rooms....
Eric is looking in his calendar
Eric: ... not the coolest room (
which is not the one next to the bar ) but with a bit of money
one can get the bar
... those who sponsor the event get their name somewhere, and people can toast your company
... 13-15 is possible on the 8th floor of Stella
Arnaud: this is going to be the default then
Arnaud: anyone want to claim his
... We are at Actions here
which action are we speaking of?
me. got lost sorry.
Arnaud: we can close the Action
<trackbot> ACTION-32 create wiki page to structure and consolidate discussions around LDP model (ISSUE-37) closed
<trackbot> ACTION-32 -- Erik Wilde to create wiki page to structure and consolidate discussions around LDP model (ISSUE-37) -- due 2012-12-03 -- CLOSED
Arnaud: Let's look at Issues...
<trackbot> ISSUE-40 -- creating/deleting/changing non RDF resources -- raised
<trackbot> ISSUE-41 -- Standard way to manage members with attachments -- raised
SteveBattle: Added the corresponding use case 8 for this, so Issue-40 can be opened and closed.
set Issue-40 to pending review
talking about Issue-41
SteveBattle: has added scenarios
covering Issue-41 to use case 8
... so this can put to pending review
please set it
ok, I updated it to pending rewview
Arnaud: Is the document ready for review
<SteveBattle> I've dropped off the call
SteveBattle: do you believe it is ready for review?
<ericP> SteveBattle, do you want to push fro WG review on UC&R today?
<SteveBattle> Yes please
<SteveBattle> We'll freeze the document for the coming week.
So the plan is for the WG to review the UCR for next monday
Arnaud: So the aim is to get the document to be published before the end of the year
<SteveBattle> OK - I'm back
people need to look at what is in there.
SteveBattle: asking people to review the content, the examples, is there something that should be taken out, is in scope, ...
Arnaud: we can annotate the
document with open issues.
... so that we don't have to resolve the issues, but we can annotate them
SteveBattle: Please try to get reviews in before Friday...
who is speaking?
<ericP> SOTD: The WG intends to address the use cases and requirements in the document. Other use cases and requirements may be added in the future. We invite community feedback on these and other use cases.
ericp: propose a status of the
document so that people would know ( ? )
... so reviewers can understand what they are reviewing to
<SteveS> +1 to ericP's SOTD
<SteveBattle> OK - we'll add that.
ericp: an html version of this
document that passes the pubrules requirements
... there is a wiki page somewhere explaining this ( please point us to it if you have it )
SteveSpeicher: we'll use respec version 3
ericP: we need to look at what the short name should be
<SteveBattle> That's what we're pushing for :)
Arnaud: it would be great if we can publish this before the end of the year
Arnaud: the charter requires a
refresh of the spec, beginning of 2013 January
... but I am not sure we have made enough progress
... and it is good to help us make progress
steves: looking at issue 38
<JohnArwe> I also expect to spend a block of time over the holidays trying to clean up anything I can on spec.
Steve Speicher: looking at issue 38 and this could make some changes to spec
<SteveS> s/Steve Spiker/ SteveS/
Ashok: you have written up the
AtomPub part but ours is somewhat different, where we can
create and delete collections, so then we have to speak of
collections, what happens to the members
... we are doing something more complex indeed that AtomPub, but we have it
SteveS: we have issues for this on this
who is speaking?
dret: we can link open issues to this page ( which one again?)
<dret> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-37 is the page
Ashok: are you asking that I should editi the wiki page that dret wrote up.
Arnaud: everybody should be ok to edit this page
dret: that's ok I did this for
AtomPub, and I think it would be good if other people can do
the same for other protocols
... it is useful to help see what kinds of questions we need to answer.
Arnaud: this page gives us a
... regarding the issues, we can have references from that wiki page to the open issues
MacTed: this page is to expose issues by analysing these other protocols in parallel to our stuff.
agreement all around.
MacTed: requests a bit richer use
... in the first paragraph "any atompub server exposes a "service document" (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8) "
this should be [http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5023#section-8 service document]
dret: I'll do that, just had pasted my e-mail to the wiki
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Hierarchical bugtracking service -- open
SteveBattle: this is can be closed, it was moved to ucr
<MacTed> PROPOSAL: close issue-30, it was moved to UCR
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 Hierarchical bugtracking service closed
<MacTed> RESOLVED: close issue-30, it was moved to UCR
Arnaud: the only way to make
progress is to close these issues
... and this needs proposals
... so is suggesting to go down the list and propose to close the issue
... and so if people don't have proposals then the issue gets closed
<dret> thanks everybody!
MacTed: suggests that there should be a heads up on which issues should be decided in the topics for the teleconf
<MacTed> trackbot, end meeting
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