IRC log of svg on 2012-11-29
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-svg-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG
- 20:59:34 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot, I see GA_SVGWG(SVG1)4:00PM already started
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- Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
- 20:59:35 [trackbot]
- Date: 29 November 2012
- 20:59:50 [krit]
- zakim, who is on the phone
- 20:59:51 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is on the phone', krit
- 20:59:56 [krit]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:59:56 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +2aaaa
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- +[IPcaller]
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- + +61.2.980.5.aabb
- 21:00:04 [krit]
- zakim, 2aaaa is me
- 21:00:04 [Zakim]
- sorry, krit, I do not recognize a party named '2aaaa'
- 21:00:09 [nikos]
- Zakim, +61.2 is me
- 21:00:09 [Zakim]
- +nikos; got it
- 21:00:17 [krit]
- zakim, aaaa is me
- 21:00:17 [Zakim]
- +krit; got it
- 21:00:23 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller.a]
- 21:00:25 [heycam]
- Zakim, [ is me
- 21:00:25 [Zakim]
- sorry, heycam, I do not recognize a party named '['
- 21:00:29 [heycam]
- Zakim, [I is me
- 21:00:29 [Zakim]
- sorry, heycam, I do not recognize a party named '[I'
- 21:00:33 [heycam]
- Zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
- 21:00:33 [Zakim]
- +heycam; got it
- 21:00:37 [birtles]
- Zakim, IPcaller is me
- 21:00:37 [Zakim]
- +birtles; got it
- 21:00:37 [nikos]
- zakim, who is noisy?
- 21:00:50 [Zakim]
- nikos, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
- 21:00:58 [heycam]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2012OctDec/0044.html
- 21:01:02 [heycam]
- Chair: Cameron
- 21:01:02 [krit]
- zakim, 2aaaa is me
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- sorry, krit, I do not recognize a party named '2aaaa'
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- -nikos
- 21:01:11 [krit]
- zakim, who is noisy?
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- +[IPcaller]
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- +nikos
- 21:01:24 [Zakim]
- krit, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: birtles (32%), heycam (8%)
- 21:01:35 [ed]
- Zakim, [IP is me
- 21:01:35 [Zakim]
- +ed; got it
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- +Doug_Schepers
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- +cabanier
- 21:04:24 [cabanier]
- scribenick: cabanier
- 21:04:37 [cabanier]
- topic: Sydney F2F
- 21:04:59 [cabanier]
- heycam: CSS WG has their meeting at Tucson at the same time
- 21:05:14 [cabanier]
- … but it's not really feasible to change for us
- 21:05:29 [cabanier]
- … so we're not chaning our meeting
- 21:06:18 [cabanier]
- krit: our tickets are being approved
- 21:06:33 [cabanier]
- krit: so it's hard to move
- 21:07:02 [cabanier]
- heycam: chris won't come and we would miss Tab
- 21:07:18 [cabanier]
- topic: marker discussion
- 21:07:48 [cabanier]
- heycam: we've had an email discussion about the marker property
- 21:08:15 [Zakim]
- + +33.9.53.77.aacc
- 21:08:20 [cabanier]
- … marker segment was my proposal for marker pattern
- 21:08:49 [Tav]
- zakim, aacc is me
- 21:08:49 [Zakim]
- +Tav; got it
- 21:08:52 [cabanier]
- … in the spec I added marker pattern and marker segment
- 21:09:29 [cabanier]
- … in the thread Dirk was wondering if we could add functionality from marker segment to marker patterns
- 21:09:39 [cabanier]
- … so we wouldn't need separate properties
- 21:10:01 [cabanier]
- Tav: marker segment seems like an obvious thing
- 21:10:11 [cabanier]
- heycam: that was my concern as well
- 21:10:32 [cabanier]
- krit: you may want to position marker on the segment itself
- 21:10:53 [cabanier]
- … you may want to position it on the begin/ end instead of the middle
- 21:11:29 [cabanier]
- heycam: were you think of the automatic
- 21:11:47 [cabanier]
- krit: I would like to position a marker along a path
- 21:12:50 [cabanier]
- heycam: why doesn't marker-mid work for that
- 21:13:03 [cabanier]
- krit: you'd have to draw into different segments
- 21:13:27 [cabanier]
- heycam: no, it draws for every vertex except the first and last
- 21:14:07 [cabanier]
- krit: maybe I misunderstood
- 21:14:30 [cabanier]
- krit: o yes. I does what I want
- 21:15:14 [heycam]
- ---x-x---
- 21:15:21 [cabanier]
- heycam: one example I though
- 21:15:30 [cabanier]
- … you have 2 markers on a segment
- 21:15:58 [cabanier]
- … I think that kind of pattern has been seen before
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- … so it would be good to be able to do that
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- 21:17:07 [cabanier]
- heycam: the main diffferences between me and Tab, was to repeat the marker pattern over each segment
- 21:17:24 [cabanier]
- … and that you could specify an offset that the pattern isn't repeated into
- 21:17:37 [cabanier]
- … so you'd have 20pixel of offset
- 21:18:04 [cabanier]
- nikos: so you can have a comma separated list of marker pattern
- 21:18:08 [cabanier]
- heycam: yes
- 21:18:09 [heycam]
- marker-pattern: url() 20px, url() 40px
- 21:18:38 [cabanier]
- heycam: a marker every 20 px and one every 40px
- 21:18:51 [cabanier]
- … the discussion was about the best syntax
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- cabanier: so the marker would overlap each other
- 21:19:13 [cabanier]
- heycam: yes
- 21:19:21 [cabanier]
- cabanier: and there is a drawing order
- 21:19:24 [cabanier]
- heycam: yes
- 21:19:32 [cabanier]
- nikos: what does the offset do
- 21:20:02 [cabanier]
- heycam: it shortens the path between both ends
- 21:20:14 [cabanier]
- … and the pattern only shows between them
- 21:20:57 [cabanier]
- krit: the offset is the thing that cuts of the markers at the beginngin and end of the path
- 21:21:12 [cabanier]
- heycam: no, it shifts where the patterns starts and end
- 21:22:41 [cabanier]
- krit: do we want to support multiple tracks?
- 21:22:42 [Zakim]
- +Rich
- 21:22:49 [cabanier]
- heycam: yes
- 21:22:59 [cabanier]
- nikos: multiple tracks is cool.
- 21:23:11 [cabanier]
- … and use percentages
- 21:23:19 [cabanier]
- heycam: I think it should be
- 21:24:52 [krit]
- ----X
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- X is on 100%
- 21:25:11 [krit]
- offset is 20%
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- X----
- 21:26:10 [cabanier]
- heycam: my feeling is that the offset is at 20%, there shouldn't be any markers at the beginning
- 21:26:18 [cabanier]
- krit: that is not the definition of offset
- 21:26:25 [cabanier]
- heycam: it is if we define it that way
- 21:27:43 [cabanier]
- krit/heycam discussing...
- 21:30:01 [cabanier]
- heycam: maybe offset was the wrong word to use
- 21:30:11 [cabanier]
- … because it looks like dash offset
- 21:30:41 [cabanier]
- … it sounds that people like multiple tracks
- 21:30:47 [cabanier]
- tav: what does that mean
- 21:31:00 [cabanier]
- heycam: you have a comma separated list and apply each one on a path
- 21:31:58 [cabanier]
- krit: it would mean less interaction with the DOM
- 21:32:32 [cabanier]
- heycam: hopefully at one point CSSOM has easy access to multiple border/backgrounds
- 21:32:43 [cabanier]
- krit: it seems that we're replacing vector effects
- 21:32:52 [cabanier]
- heycam: I think that's true
- 21:33:13 [cabanier]
- … some of the use case for vector effects, it would be good to have a different solution
- 21:33:20 [cabanier]
- … we can solve that later
- 21:33:56 [cabanier]
- … we can discuss this further on the mailing list
- 21:34:06 [cabanier]
- krit: I would like to resolve it