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12:49:20 <fsasaki> meeting: MLW-LT editing session
12:49:22 <fsasaki> chair: felix
12:49:24 <fsasaki> scribe: tbd
12:50:00 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0155.html
12:50:07 <fsasaki> present+ jirka
12:50:09 <fsasaki> present+ felix
12:51:35 <fsasaki> topic: roll call
12:51:37 <fsasaki> tbd
12:51:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/20-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
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12:54:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/20-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
12:56:43 <fsasaki> close action-281
12:56:43 <trackbot> ACTION-281 Ask for use cases of data category-specific confidence scores closed
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13:01:40 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
13:02:04 <fsasaki> present+ david
13:05:49 <fsasaki> present+ yves
13:06:13 <fsasaki> topic: revision log
13:06:15 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#changelog-since-20121023
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13:07:11 <fsasaki> present+ karl
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13:08:51 <fsasaki> looking at http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#css-selectors-feature-at-risk
13:09:25 <Yves_> present+ Yves_
13:10:40 <fsasaki> action: felix to check about having editorial notes in last call draft, e.g. the xml schema and schematron related notes
13:10:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-307 - Check about having editorial notes in last call draft, e.g. the xml schema and schematron related notes [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-11-27].
13:17:22 <fsasaki> action: felix to update ponter list in sec. 5.3.2.2 - due 29 November
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13:17:45 <fsasaki> action: felix to update ponter list in sec. 5.3.2.2 - due 29 November
13:17:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-308 - update ponter list in sec. 5.3.2.2 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-11-29].
13:20:33 <fsasaki> <its:disambiguationRule selector="//*[@typeof]"  disambiguationClassRefPointer="@typeof" />
13:21:08 <fsasaki> <its:disambiguationRule selector="//*[@about]"  disambigIdentRefPointer="@about" />
13:22:30 <fsasaki> going through disambiguation section
13:23:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/20-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
13:25:55 <fsasaki> discussing need for global "disambigGranularity"
13:27:53 <fsasaki> dave: needed because otherwise some information would be missing in global rules
13:29:03 <fsasaki> action: daveL to pick up disambiguation granuliartiy best practices topic later - due 2013-01-31
13:29:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-309 - pick up disambiguation granuliartiy best practices topic later [on David Lewis - due 2013-01-31].
13:31:01 <fsasaki> daveL: need to be consistent - conventions for talking about data categories
13:32:17 <fsasaki> action: felix to go through the document and check data category naming (capital first letter plus hyperlink)
13:32:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-310 - Go through the document and check data category naming (capital first letter plus hyperlink) [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-11-27].
13:36:39 <fsasaki> now going through mime type section
13:36:44 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#its-mime-type
13:40:30 <fsasaki> action-251: make sure that IRI vs URI is addressed then going to last call - only IRI would be better
13:40:34 <trackbot> ACTION-251 add a mime type section to ITS2.0 draft and make the necessary steps for last call mentioned at http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype notes added
13:44:12 <daveL> in interval 0 to 1 inclusive.
13:44:58 <Yves_> in other data categories we say "between 0 and 100 (inclusive)"
13:47:25 <fsasaki> should we use "in interval 0 to 1 inclusive" - rather "integer between 0 and 100 (inclusive)"
13:50:09 <fsasaki> "An optional disambigConfidence attribute with the value of a rational number in the interval 0 to 1"
13:50:22 <fsasaki> "MT Confidence is provided as a (rational) number from the interval 0 to 1 inclusive."
13:51:43 <fsasaki> dave: inclusive should be in here for disambiguatino too
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13:56:32 <fsasaki> action: david to check with group about harmonization of interval values - mtconfidence, disambiguation, locquality issue, loc precis
13:56:32 <trackbot> Sorry, ambiguous username (more than one match) - david
13:56:32 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dlewis6, dfilip)
13:56:40 <fsasaki> action: dfilip to check with group about harmonization of interval values - mtconfidence, disambiguation, locquality issue, loc precis
13:56:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-311 - Check with group about harmonization of interval values - mtconfidence, disambiguation, locquality issue, loc precis [on David Filip - due 2012-11-27].
14:09:14 <Jirka> there shouldn't be / before file:///
14:09:32 <fsasaki> thanks, changing now
14:12:15 <fsasaki> dropping EX-mtConfidence-global-1.xml - with mtProducer etc., these not needed anymore
14:17:26 <fsasaki> some changes to mt confidence examples
14:22:45 <fsasaki> action: felix to come up with a list of data category identifiers for the tool annoation section
14:22:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-312 - Come up with a list of data category identifiers for the tool annoation section [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-11-27].
14:27:09 <fsasaki> action-312: make sure that the data category identifers are in lower case, for HTML5
14:27:09 <trackbot> ACTION-312 Come up with a list of data category identifiers for the tool annoation section notes added
14:50:23 <fsasaki> back - now going through provenance section
14:51:23 <fsasaki> action: felix to check data category table
14:51:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-313 - Check data category table [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-11-27].
14:56:54 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#provenance
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15:02:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/20-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
15:02:38 <fsasaki> "offers a mechanism to refer to external, RDF-based provenance descriptions based on the provenance data model [PROV-DM]."
15:02:53 <fsasaki> "offers a mechanism to refer to external provenance data".
15:09:44 <daveL> The specification does not define the format of external provenance data, but it is recommended that an open provenance or or change logging format be used, e.g. the W3C provenance data model [PROV-DM].
15:14:09 <fsasaki> allow values to inherit to elements and attributes
15:17:04 <fsasaki> action: yves to check global rules for provenance
15:17:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-314 - Check global rules for provenance [on Yves Savourel - due 2012-11-27].
15:17:28 <fsasaki> dave: may keep global pointer rules for xliff mapping
15:17:37 <fsasaki> .. general purpose global rules can be dropped
15:19:27 <fsasaki> dropping done in the life editing session, needs wg feedback
15:23:18 <fsasaki> action: daveL to rework http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/examples/xml/EX-provenance-global-3.xml to use XLIFF
15:23:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-315 - Rework http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/examples/xml/EX-provenance-global-3.xml to use XLIFF [on David Lewis - due 2012-11-27].
15:32:47 <fsasaki> action: felix to tweak list of global provenance attributes - e.g. "A provenanceRecordsRefPointer attribute that contains a relative selector pointing to a node with the exact same semantics as provenanceRecordsRef."
15:32:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-316 - Tweak list of global provenance attributes - e.g. "A provenanceRecordsRefPointer attribute that contains a relative selector pointing to a node with the exact same semantics as provenanceRecordsRef." [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-11-27].
15:33:45 <fsasaki> will add a link to #elem-provenanceRecords (definition of the record in local definition)
15:34:58 <fsasaki> removing note on order of provenacne records - the order doesn't have any significane
15:37:45 <fsasaki> action: felix to make sure that we talk in sec. 7.3 about inline standoff markup as well
15:37:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-317 - Make sure that we talk in sec. 7.3 about inline standoff markup as well [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-11-27].
15:58:55 <fsasaki> send out minutes of call - edits - and propose to look now at sec. 1. and 2.
16:01:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/20-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
16:36:11 <fsasaki> action-296: not needed anymore after editing call 20 November
16:36:11 <trackbot> ACTION-296 Check global rules examples in mt confidence notes added
16:36:15 <fsasaki> close action-296
16:36:15 <trackbot> ACTION-296 Check global rules examples in mt confidence closed
16:41:33 <fsasaki> action-295?
16:41:33 <trackbot> ACTION-295 -- Des Oates to check global rules examples in localisation quality precis -- due 2012-11-19 -- OPEN
16:41:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/295