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16:23:20 <glazou> Zakim, thiw ill be Style
16:23:20 <Zakim> I don't understand 'thiw ill be Style', glazou
16:23:27 <glazou> Zakim, this will be Style
16:23:27 <Zakim> ok, glazou; I see Style_CSS FP()12:00PM scheduled to start in 37 minutes
16:23:32 <glazou> RRSAgent, make logs public
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16:56:16 <TabAtkins> I'm in another meeting, but I'll be here in IRC.
16:56:28 <glazou> TabAtkins: noted
16:56:36 <glazou> seems it's going to be low attendance anyway
16:56:40 <glazou> many people sick
16:56:54 <glazou> Zakim, code?
16:56:54 <Zakim> the conference code is 78953 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), glazou
16:57:05 <Zakim> Style_CSS FP()12:00PM has now started
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16:57:18 <glazou> Zakim, ??P24 is me
16:57:19 <Zakim> +glazou; got it
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16:58:01 <glazou> plinss: cannot hear you
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16:58:29 <jdaggett> zakim, ??p28 is me
16:58:31 <Zakim> +jdaggett; got it
16:58:41 <florian> Zakim, I am [IPcaller]
16:58:41 <Zakim> ok, florian, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
16:58:54 <Zakim> + +33.9.52.34.aaaa
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16:59:07 <SimonSapin> Zakim: I am aaaa
16:59:19 <glazou> Zakim, aaaa is SimonSapin
16:59:19 <Zakim> +SimonSapin; got it
16:59:19 <SimonSapin> Zakim, I am aaaa
16:59:20 <Zakim> sorry, SimonSapin, I do not see a party named 'aaaa'
16:59:31 <glazou> agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/50A3AB1D.4090002@disruptive-innovations.com
16:59:53 <Zakim> +??P39
17:00:13 <Zakim> + +1.778.785.aabb
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17:00:33 <glazou> Zakim, ??P39 is leaverou
17:00:33 <Zakim> +leaverou; got it
17:00:42 <Zakim> + +1.415.832.aacc
17:00:43 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:00:50 <sylvaing_away> Zakim, [Microsoft] has me
17:00:50 <Zakim> +sylvaing_away; got it
17:00:54 <krit> zakim, aacc is me
17:00:54 <Zakim> +krit; got it
17:01:00 <dbaron> Zakim, Mozilla-YVR has dbaron
17:01:00 <Zakim> +dbaron; got it
17:01:07 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:01:15 <dbaron> Zakim, who is on the phone?
17:01:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see glazou, plinss, jdaggett, [IPcaller], SimonSapin, leaverou, Mozilla-YVR, [Microsoft], krit, [Microsoft.a]
17:01:17 <Zakim> Mozilla-YVR has dbaron
17:01:17 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has sylvaing_away
17:01:39 <Zakim> + +1.619.846.aadd
17:02:23 <glazou> Zakim, aadd is hober
17:02:23 <Zakim> +hober; got it
17:03:31 <Zakim> +SteveZ
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17:03:48 <Zakim> + +1.604.312.aaee
17:04:07 <rbetts> Zakim, aaee is me.
17:04:07 <Zakim> +rbetts; got it
17:04:16 <Zakim> +??P54
17:04:48 <Zakim> -??P54
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17:05:53 <Zakim> +??P65
17:05:59 <glazou> Zakim, who is on the phone ?
17:05:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see glazou, plinss, jdaggett, [IPcaller], SimonSapin, leaverou, Mozilla-YVR, [Microsoft], krit, [Microsoft.a], hober, SteveZ, rbetts, ??P65
17:06:03 <Zakim> Mozilla-YVR has dbaron
17:06:03 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has sylvaing_away
17:06:15 <Zakim> +Bert
17:06:15 <Zakim> -??P65
17:06:22 <dbaron> has the call been very quiet the last 2 minutes, or have I stopped hearing any sound?
17:06:31 <glazou> I'm talking dbaron
17:06:40 <Bert> Scribe: Bert
17:06:54 <Bert> Topic: Agenda
17:07:12 <Zakim> +Mozilla-YVR.a
17:07:32 <Zakim> +??P70
17:07:38 <dbaron> Zakim, [Mozilla-YVR.a] has dbaron
17:07:38 <Zakim> sorry, dbaron, I do not recognize a party named '[Mozilla-YVR.a]'
17:07:41 <Bert> Dirk: new props in compositing affect Backgrounds and borders
17:07:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
17:07:45 <dbaron> Zakim, Mozilla-YVR.a has dbaron
17:07:45 <Zakim> +dbaron; got it
17:07:51 <fantasai> Zakim, IPcaller.a is me
17:07:51 <Zakim> +fantasai; got it
17:07:52 <Bert> ... Can we move them, or should they stay in Compositing?
17:07:53 <Zakim> +Stearns
17:07:56 <Zakim> -??P70
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17:08:17 <Bert> Simon: Me as editor for page?
17:08:49 <dbaron> dbaron: another thread about viewport units and @page rules
17:09:04 <Bert> Topic: ftf
17:09:15 <Bert> glazou: I tried to ping molly.
17:09:22 <Bert> ... No response, so I'm concerned.
17:09:35 <Bert> ... Should we have a backup venue?
17:09:43 <Zakim> -Stearns
17:09:49 <Bert> ... She posted something on wikie, but it was siubject to sponsoring.
17:09:49 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
17:09:57 <Bert> ... So no firm date and location.
17:10:00 <leaverou> s/wikie/wiki
17:10:08 <Rossen> Zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
17:10:08 <Zakim> +Rossen; got it
17:10:22 <Zakim> +Stearns
17:10:26 <Bert> johnd: In bay area, than multiple companies can sponsor.
17:10:57 <Zakim> -Stearns
17:10:58 <Bert> florian: We considered japan ftf in winter earlier, but concern about AC in japan.
17:11:04 <SimonSapin> +1 for keeping japan in june
17:11:09 <Bert> sylvaing: May be difficult for some
17:11:28 <Bert> johnd: Jan/feb would be trickier for me [to sponsor in japan]
17:11:38 <Bert> ... prefer spring, but maybe cane work on soemthing.
17:11:51 <Zakim> -fantasai
17:11:54 <Bert> glazou: So let's look for spare location Bay Area in Feb.
17:12:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
17:12:07 <fantasai> Zakim, IPcaller.a is me
17:12:07 <Zakim> +fantasai; got it
17:12:15 <Bert> Topic: lea as co-editor for backgrounds & borders
17:12:40 <Zakim> +??P82
17:12:42 <Bert> fantasai: lea had some interest, filed issues.
17:12:52 <Bert> ... I thought why not have her co-edit with me.
17:13:01 <Zakim> -Mozilla-YVR
17:13:06 <Bert> ... Good way to get a bit momentum, even if slow.
17:13:13 <Bert> ... It remains a low-prio module.
17:13:20 <Bert> ... And I can help Lea along.
17:13:40 <Bert> glazou: You mentioned ytou need ack from Doug?
17:13:47 <Bert> lea: Doug agrees.
17:14:00 <Bert> RESOLVED: Lea co-editor for Backgrounds 4
17:14:16 <darktears> Zakim: +??P82 is me
17:14:20 <Bert> Topic; Simon co-editor for Paged Meda
17:14:42 <darktears> Zakim, +??P82 is me
17:14:44 <Zakim> sorry, darktears, I do not recognize a party named '+??P82'
17:14:45 <Bert> Simon: progress is slow. I'm discussion with [...]
17:14:51 <Bert> glazou: Objections?
17:14:52 <Zakim> +Stearns
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17:15:06 <Bert> florian: What was prio for this module? No objection in principle.
17:15:31 <Bert> fantasai: High prio for some, but not for browsers.
17:15:32 <darktears> Zakim, ??P82 is me
17:15:32 <Zakim> +darktears; got it
17:15:40 <Bert> ... Important to make progress.
17:16:09 <Bert> SteveZ: Counter-example: anything with layout seems important.
17:16:17 <Bert> ... It's part of the center of CSS.
17:16:25 <Bert> fantasai: But doens't interact with other modules.
17:16:32 <fantasai> s/modules/layout models/
17:16:34 <Bert> SteveZ: But it should. Why not?
17:16:58 <Bert> florian: In any case we need to make progress on it.
17:17:12 <Bert> glazou: Is css3-page discussed at IDPF?
17:17:24 <Bert> fantasai: Not much, they're using something else.
17:17:37 <Bert> glazou: I guess it's important becaus eof e-books.
17:17:56 <Bert> glazou: Objections to Simon as co-editor?
17:18:01 <Bert> Bert: On the contrary!
17:18:16 <Bert> dbaron: Browsers maybe not workng on it, but may do so in the future.
17:18:29 <Bert> ... May start to interact later, is a danger.
17:18:40 <Bert> .. We've had that problem in the past.
17:18:54 <Bert> glazou: What does that mean? It should slow down?
17:19:19 <Bert> dbaron: Not necessarily. Don't assume it won't need any changes in the future once browsers start needing it.
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17:19:31 <Bert> glazou: That doesn't seem acceptable.
17:19:57 <Bert> dbaron: There is a difference between listen and comment and implements; and then actually find problems.
17:20:08 <Bert> ... We've had this in the past.
17:20:35 <Bert> florian: You say that going to pR with only implementations other than browsers is prpoblematic?
17:21:14 <glenn> Present+ glenn (IRC only)
17:21:28 <Bert> SteveZ: So dbaron says: if implemented in a product that does't have the whole stack of techs of a browser, it may not be compatible wioth that stack.
17:21:38 <Bert> dbaron: And we have a set of priorities.
17:21:47 <Bert> .. We can't comment on everything.
17:21:56 <Bert> ... There is too much too comment on.
17:22:14 <Bert> glazou: We discussed at ftf. We have 60 docs, too much.
17:22:30 <Bert> ... Chairs are not dictators.
17:22:44 <Bert> ... We cannot say trash everything beyond the first 15.
17:23:07 <Bert> sylvaing: I don't disagree that it is difficult. But we should have that discussion before the poll.
17:23:27 <Bert> SteveZ: One way out is to suggest that we set comment deadlines on things.
17:23:37 <Bert> ... Low prio items have deadline further in future.
17:23:44 <glazou> jdaggett: :)
17:23:48 <Bert> ... People like to continue working on things.
17:24:03 <Bert> ... dbaron says there are too many things to comment on. Agree.
17:24:23 <Bert> ... But you have to keep working. No comments doesn't mean there aren't any.
17:24:47 <jdaggett> i think the conclusion here is that css3-page needs group discussion
17:24:50 <Bert> glazou: We never move docuemtns to next state without aking the members first.
17:25:00 <jdaggett> i'm not sure more discussion is needed on this right now
17:25:18 <Bert> ... We have all the sensors to avoid implementations by non-browsrs only and to avoid browser pbs in the futre.
17:25:50 <Bert> florian: Even if we don't work on a modules, people may come up with something and that may be worse. Lesser evil to work on it.
17:25:52 <jdaggett> wrap... up... discussion...
17:26:14 <Bert> glazou: Important discussion, but let's do that later, maybe an hour.
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17:26:24 <Bert> .. so back to Simon as co-editor.
17:26:36 <Bert> RESOLVED: Simon is co-editor for css3-page.
17:27:04 <Bert> Topic: font issues
17:27:16 <Bert> johnd: I made a few changes.
17:27:21 <glazou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Nov/0112.html
17:27:28 <Bert> ... First is 'font-stretch'
17:27:40 <Bert> ... I put the keyowrds in the font shorthand.
17:28:07 <glazou> Zakim, code?
17:28:07 <Zakim> the conference code is 78953 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), glazou
17:28:10 <Bert> ... Parsing font family names makes this tricky.
17:28:20 <Bert> .. Font size thus always has to be there.
17:28:47 <Bert> ... Other  keywords don't conflict.
17:28:59 <dbaron> looks good to me
17:29:09 <Bert> ... Is that Reasonable?
17:29:16 <Bert> simon: I see no ambiguities.
17:29:22 <Bert> glazou: Me neither.
17:29:38 <glazou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Nov/0114.html
17:29:39 <jdaggett> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Nov/0114.html
17:29:39 <Bert> RESOLVED: Add stretch keywords to font shorthand
17:30:21 <Bert> johnd: In prev WD I made it so that a font-family name existing on a system gathers all faces in the family.
17:30:31 <Bert> ... then you choose a specific face.
17:30:45 <Bert> ... All these params choose a specifi face.
17:31:00 <Bert> ... Prev WD said look for each character.
17:31:11 <Bert> ... There are some subtle pbs with some faces.
17:31:19 <Zakim> +Molly_Holzschlag
17:31:20 <Bert> ... Some lack support for a char.
17:31:33 <Bert> ... So I changed to match the face first and then check for the char.
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17:31:57 <Bert> ... When you download, you don't know what's in the faces until you download them all.
17:32:04 <Bert> ... So this avoids downloading them all.
17:32:26 <Bert> ... Some font faces have e.g., arabic in normal, but not in italic face.
17:32:32 <Bert> ... Not common, but does occur.
17:32:42 <Bert> ... In that case you should fallback to regular face.
17:32:54 <Bert> ... I'd rather introduce exception like that than to have general rules.
17:33:13 <Bert> Bert: What exceptions?
17:33:22 <Zakim> +SteveZ.a
17:33:24 <Zakim> -SteveZ
17:33:31 <Bert> johnd: E.g., older Arial has arabic only in regular and not in italic.
17:33:48 <Bert> ... Browsers would automatically use the regular and synthesize the italic.
17:34:05 <Bert> ... They're exceptional cases and I'd like the spec to leave wiggle room for that.
17:34:34 <glenn> i guess jdagget means "synthesize oblique (and pretend its italic)"
17:34:36 <Bert> fantasai: Seems fine, but if UA is capable, what is the *better* behavior?
17:34:42 <Bert> ... Allow both behaviors?
17:34:59 <Bert> fantasai: You said practicval considerations.
17:35:04 <glenn> s/jdagget means/jdaggett means/
17:35:17 <Bert> ... Can UAs deal with them in different ways, take the cost?
17:35:35 <Bert> johnd: There are all these itneractions. E.g., witjh downlodable fonts.
17:35:50 <Bert> ... Doing style matching for soem cases and not for others.
17:36:00 <shepazu> http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/propertyref
17:36:09 <Bert> ... You may end up with wildly diofferent style, if that is the font that has the glyph.
17:36:18 <Bert> ... Particularly on Windows.
17:36:32 <Bert> ... Windows has ways to fold different fonts into a family.
17:36:39 <Bert> ... Would rather stay away fom it.
17:37:10 <Bert> ... Previous WD was just something I introduced.
17:37:25 <Bert> ... I dont' think it is better. Solves some cases.
17:37:28 <glazou> sylvaing_away: only surface splittable cover keyboard ?
17:37:39 <Bert> ... Rather leave UAs some wiggle room than have a general rule.
17:37:47 <Bert> sylvaing: What's the impact on [?]
17:37:57 <sylvaing_away> s/[?]/existing content
17:37:58 <Bert> johnd: None.
17:37:58 <glazou> s/[?]/existing wefonts
17:38:27 <Bert> ... When I thought through what the previous rule meant for downlodable fonts I thought: no.
17:39:47 <Bert> RESOLVED: Wrt issue above: use the Editor's draft version.
17:39:55 <jdaggett> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Sep/0507.html
17:40:01 <Bert> Johnd: Next is syntax issue.
17:40:03 <glazou> and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Oct/0279.html
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17:40:20 <Bert> ... @font-feature-values rule
17:40:36 <Bert> ... For features only in a certain font.
17:41:11 <Bert> ... What you need is min-variable syntax, associate name with a selector value, only for a given font family.
17:41:20 <Bert> s/min-/mini-/
17:41:22 <jdaggett> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Oct/0279.html
17:41:36 <Bert> glazou: I agree with dbaron to prefer to @ sign.
17:41:47 <Bert> johnd: Some concerns with that.
17:42:27 <dbaron> glazou said that he prefers Variation B, but with the @ sign
17:42:28 <Bert> ... With @-signs (variation A in the message) doesn't look like property name.
17:42:37 <Bert> .. I prefer that.
17:42:45 <SimonSapin> we have property-like descriptors in @font-face and @counter-style
17:42:49 <glenn> doesn't like @ syntax
17:42:53 <Bert> ... Because it *doesn't* look like something that already exists.
17:43:00 <oyvind> @keyframes already has "from" and "to"
17:43:23 <oyvind> etc
17:43:26 <Bert> fantasai: Other thing is that the values cascade.
17:43:36 <glenn> doesn't think it necessary to make it look different
17:43:37 <Bert> ... That is not clear in the A syntax.
17:43:48 <Bert> ... In the B syntax tht is clear.
17:44:10 <Bert> johnd: It is not a cascade, just some override.
17:44:42 <Bert> fantasai: In first syntax, in some cases an @rule sobliterates an earlioer rule.
17:44:54 <Bert> ... In 2nd syntax it behaves very much like selectors.
17:45:03 <Bert> ... No specificity, but otherwise the same.
17:45:23 <Bert> glazou: We have font descriptors, they are not properties either.
17:45:37 <Bert> johnd: in @font-face, yes.
17:45:58 <Bert> fantasai: No pref either way.
17:46:07 <glenn> every new sub-syntax requires additional cognitive load for users, negatives of which outweigh reuse of existing syntax
17:46:16 <Bert> dbaron: No strong pref for A or B, but if B, then with @-sign.
17:46:30 <Bert> johnd: So we go with B with @-sign?
17:46:34 <stearns> no strong preference
17:46:42 <glenn> strong pref against @ syntax
17:46:45 <Bert> ... I'd like A, but don't care that strongly.
17:46:59 <Bert> glazou: readability, coherence with rest of CSS.
17:47:15 <Bert> ... Seems we have stronger pref for B overall.
17:47:30 <Bert> RESOLVED: syntax B with an @-sign.
17:47:47 <Bert> Topic: ftf (cont'd)
17:47:53 <Zakim> -fantasai
17:47:56 <glenn> can't we separate adopting 2nd syntax and using @-sign?
17:48:00 <Bert> molly: You can follow progress on the wiki.
17:48:05 <dbaron> http://wiki.csswg.org/planning/tucson-2013
17:48:40 <Bert> ... We had incredible support from city and from university of Tucson.
17:48:46 <glenn> jdaggett: suggest you make CSSFontFaceRule in ED a 'partial' interface
17:48:49 <Bert> ... We've been offered a couple of locations.
17:49:10 <Bert> ... We have the univ and the city fighting over who hosts us!
17:49:32 <Bert> ... Constraints in Feb on dates.
17:49:32 <SimonSapin> is 1 day later possible?
17:49:39 <Bert> ... Gem show, rodeo, etc.
17:49:43 <Zakim> -SimonSapin
17:49:46 <SimonSapin> because of fosdem
17:50:13 <Bert> ... Challenge is finding the best political way between univ and city.
17:50:23 <Zakim> +SimonSapin
17:50:28 <Bert> ... Biosphere 2 is just outside Tucson.
17:50:43 <Bert> ... We have been offered it as a location, with private tour.
17:51:03 <Bert> ... Including apartments with kitchens.
17:51:12 <Bert> ... Beuatiful out there.
17:51:27 <Bert> ... We could do a hybrid: 1st day at Univ on sight.
17:51:38 <Bert> .. Mayor wants to provide a welcome and a banquet.
17:51:56 <Bert> ... So which to choose. In town, we woul dneed multiple hotels.
17:52:07 <Bert> ... Not very difficult, everything is aroudn the university.
17:52:13 <jdaggett> i think the question is whether a sponsor is needed or not
17:52:15 <Bert> ... Facilities are good
17:52:22 <jdaggett> i.e. a sponsor for the venue
17:52:34 <dbaron> This sounds like we're going to end up spending a bunch of time listening to speeches in exchange for this sponsorship.
17:52:37 <Bert> glazou: Dates: some people asked for a day later.
17:52:44 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
17:52:58 <Bert> ... So start on Tuesday.
17:53:11 <Bert> molly: that would be fine.
17:53:22 <Bert> florian: I can't, anyway.
17:53:45 <jdaggett> what about the money... ?
17:54:04 <Bert> Ted: as a 15-year old, [...]
17:54:15 <Bert> Molly: Tuscon reaaly wants to be a good host for us.
17:54:33 <Bert> ... Biospehere would be a differen model, but it is the Biospehre.
17:54:46 <Bert> ... Can also do a day in town and take a shuttle the next day.
17:54:49 <dbaron> s/as a 15-year old/speaking not for Apple but for my inner 15-year-old/
17:55:21 <Bert> ... Money: you have to pay for you own travel and hotel nights.
17:55:29 <Bert> ... But the facilities are donated.
17:55:50 <Bert> ... I also want community involved. I'm looking for banquet sponsor, e.g.
17:56:02 <Bert> ... we have funds coming in, form city, from local groups.
17:56:16 <Bert> ... There has to be a formal photo op, etc.
17:56:37 <Bert> glazou: We can thank the city like we did in Lyon:
17:56:43 <Bert> ... We organize a Meet-up.
17:56:52 <Bert> Molly: excelletn, I nknow where to do that.
17:57:15 <mollyholzschlag> lol
17:57:17 <Bert> glazou: We present our work, my BluGriffon, Mozilla firefox, etc,
17:57:58 <Bert> SteveZ: Biosphere: I need to be back on Friday. If we're too far out of town, catcjhing a flight on Thu may be difficult.
17:58:11 <Bert> Molly: tehre are shuttles. May have to leave an hour earlier.
17:58:27 <dbaron> Biosphere looks like it's a 1 hour drive from the Tucson airport and a 2 hour drive from the Phoenix airport -- Phoenix may be a good option given the connections from it
17:58:32 <Bert> SteveZ: Early leaving is OK, as long as I can do it.
17:58:52 <Bert> molly: We need somebody to get you there. There is ample time, no stress. Not like CDG airport...
17:58:58 <glazou> eheh
17:59:07 <glazou> jdaggett: ROFL
17:59:15 <Bert> ... Woulkd be helpful if people could put their needs, concerns on wiki.
17:59:24 <Bert> ... Then I can respond.
17:59:33 <glazou> jdaggett: in fact it means toothpaste is still forbidden but weapons are allowed :-)
17:59:48 <Bert> .... Some kind of outreach event, as glazou suggested, would indeed be fabulous.
17:59:53 <jdaggett> naturally...
17:59:59 <sylvaing_away> in AZ the metal detector rings if you're not carrying a gun
18:00:02 <Bert> ... My brother is excited. Other people, too.
18:00:31 <Bert> ... We can also do everything on Univ campus and just go visit the Biosphere.
18:00:34 <jdaggett> +1 for biosphere
18:00:48 <Bert> ... But being there is awesome.
18:01:00 <Bert> glazou: So one day in town and rest in Biospehereis possible?
18:01:06 <Bert> molly: yes.
18:01:28 <Bert> SteveZ: Meet-up might have to be *before* the CSS mneeting then.
18:01:56 <Bert> molly: Another optionis two days at Bio and 3rd day in town.
18:02:16 <Bert> glazou: People from aborad probabaly have to stay overnight anyway.
18:02:40 <Bert> molly: We just need to figure out the days we're in town.
18:02:58 <Bert> glazou: Can you deal with this input so far and report back asap?
18:03:08 <Bert> florian: Maybe a doodle for the dates?
18:03:16 <Bert> glazou: I think molly need firm dates.
18:03:47 <Bert> molly: Please, use the wiki. It's easiest for me. Put your dates there, too.
18:03:54 <Bert> ... any special needs.
18:04:19 <Bert> glazou: So, if possible, try 5-7, if not possible keep 4-6.
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18:05:06 <glazou> I only hope they're not going to keep us in biosphere2 for months :-D
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