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07:58:54 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/02-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
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08:00:11 zakim, who is on the phone?
08:00:11 sorry, paulc, I don't know what conference this is
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08:00:12 ... gilesg-b, matthiasK_, renatb, mdelolmo, DomJones, kfritsche, mhellwig
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08:00:41 title: HTML WG f2f
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08:00:46 scribe: MikeSmith
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08:01:21 agenda: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/TPAC2012
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08:02:09 Topic: MultilingualWeb-LT
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08:03:22 zakim, who is on the phone?
08:03:22 sorry, adrianba, I don't know what conference this is
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08:03:24 ... acolwell, nkic, Ankit, Zakim, jens, Magnus_Olsson, MikeSmith
08:03:25 zakim, who is on the phone?
08:03:27 sorry, paulc, I don't know what conference this is
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08:03:27 ... acolwell, nkic, Ankit, Zakim, jens, Magnus_Olsson, MikeSmith
08:03:32 zakim, this will be HTML_WG()
08:03:32 ok, adrianba; I see HTML_WG()4:00AM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
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08:03:35 zakim, call rhone_3
08:03:35 ok, paulc; the call is being made
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08:03:48 zakim, who is on the phone?
08:03:48 On the phone I see Rhone_3
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08:03:59 meeting: HTML WG f2f
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08:04:13 Paul reviews the agenda http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/TPAC2012
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08:04:41 plan is to discuss MultilingualWeb-LT, i18n bugs in the morning
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08:05:22 Chair: Paul, Maciej
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08:06:42 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/File:Its20-html5-tpac2012.pdf
08:06:42 paulc: we have some friends here from the MultilingualWeb-LT WG
08:07:03 fsasaki steps up to the mic
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08:08:38 fsasaki on slide 2 of his presentation
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08:09:42 slide 3 shows example documents
08:10:27 More examples are in editor's draft at http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html
08:10:36 fsasaki: "translate" is now a native HTML attribute
08:10:49 slide 4 shows more examples
08:11:15 fsasaki: this shows one of the hyphenated its attributes
08:11:27 slide 5 has some links
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08:11:41 fsasaki: Frederick will show some demos
08:12:03 fsasaki: we want to go to LC in November
08:12:16 … and have validator support when we go to LC
08:12:46 … we want feedback on this section "How to use ITS metadata in HTML" by end of November
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08:12:54 … I wanted to make you aware of that plan
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08:13:31 Fredrik at the decks now
08:13:36 speaker is frederik linden from enlaso
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08:13:59 Frederik describing use cases
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08:14:39 describing filters design, processing through "ITS engine"
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08:15:02 frederiks slides are at http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/File:Some_Use_Cases_with_the_Current_Okapi_Framework_Implementation_of_ITS_2.0%28Yves_Savourel-2012-09-25%29.pptx
08:15:18 now describing "Translation Package Creation" slide
08:15:18 (sorry, currently ppt only, pdf will come later)
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08:16:27 describing benefits
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08:17:35 here slides in pdf http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/File:Some_Use_Cases_with_the_Current_Okapi_Framework_Implementation_of_ITS_2.0%28Yves_Savourel-2012-09-25%29.pdf
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08:17:52 we enter the demonstration
08:18:03 showing "Rainbow" implementation
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08:21:35 fsasaki: there are other use cases described in our document but we just wanted to show you this one demo for now
08:21:45 … main thing we want is your feedback
08:21:46 q?
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08:22:11 paulc: let's go around the room and see if anybody has any questions
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08:22:47 paulc: fsasaki you pointed us at your document
08:23:10 http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/File:Its20-html5-tpac2012.pdf
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08:24:19 paulc: fsasaki are there any particular parts that you yourself are concerned about? that you may or may not have got right?
08:24:57 paulc: the group is large and so it's been difficult to get consensus for comments on other group's specs
08:25:17 … so it's more likely that you'll get individual comments
08:25:19 q+
08:25:21 http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#html5-markup
08:25:46 Zakim, who's on the phone?
08:25:46 On the phone I see Rhone_3
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08:26:15 mjs: these ITS extensions to HTML, are they intended to be in actual HTML content that is published over the Web?
08:26:28 … or are they intended for internal use?
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08:26:38 Jirka: content published over the Web?
08:26:52 mjs: so 3rd-party tools will consume this?
08:26:57 Jirka: yeah
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08:27:36 cameronjones: is this something that's going to be integrated with HTML itself?
08:28:16 Jirka: similar to say, style attribute in HTML. Can use CSS selectors or XPath
08:28:35 cameronjones: what's the default?
08:28:35 Jirka: XPath
08:28:46 Jirka: default is to apply to complete subtree
08:29:22 fsasaki: about CSS selectors, we would like to have that support
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08:30:04 cjones: translation can be quite verbose, anything that can reduce that would be great
08:30:23 fsasaki: but it is a feature at risk, so if you are interestd i that, please contact us for aslo implementations - thanks
08:30:28 … looks like it will help to reduce that verbosity
08:30:34 q+
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08:30:54 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/02-html-wg-minutes.html hbang
08:31:19 - new dir values
08:31:20 - concerns with ruby
08:31:20 - https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15278 Adding Islamic calendar support in HTML5
08:31:20 paulc thanks the MLW-LT WG for joining us this morning
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