IRC log of wai-wcag on 2012-11-01
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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- ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started
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- Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 01 November 2012
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- Chair: Loretta
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- scribe: Kathy
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- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20121102misc/results
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- TOPIC: LC-2584 : The description of what is sufficient to pass as a simple table is insufficient
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- This is not the case for all tables (e.g. simple tables which only have row headings) but describes a common scenario.
- 20:20:00 [Loretta]
- Simple tables generally have only one level of headers for columns, one level of headers for rows, or both.
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- Otherwise, the column 1 cells would contain data and would be marked up as data cells.
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- RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
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- TOPIC: Approval of WCAG2ICT "Understanding Key Terms"
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- -[Microsoft]
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- -[Microsoft]
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- -[Microsoft.a]
- 20:55:22 [robin]
- more grammer: under User Agent, Notes 1 and 2 use "is not" but Note 3 uses "isn't"
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- more grammer: under Content, Note 2 has "user agent isn't required in order communicate the content's information" and is missing "to" after "in order"
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- more grammer: the definition for User Agent has a period, the others do not
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- more grammer: most all notes end in a period, but not all
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- -mijordan
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- 21:25:10 [robin]
- under software, in note 3, was the double "provide" already mentioned?
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- the "provides" on either side of the struck out "user agent functionality"
- 21:26:34 [Loretta]
- * James, I intentionally avoided saying that. It feels like we have devolved into a TaskForce meeting.
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
- 21:29:21 [greggvanderheiden]
- I am off but can you call consensu on this one?
- 21:29:36 [greggvanderheiden]
- and on Maureens edit to the last one?
- 21:29:45 [Loretta]
- I'm asking Alex.
- 21:30:11 [greggvanderheiden]
- can someone patch me in 608-514-9539
- 21:30:35 [Loretta]
- Because we couldn't reach consensus on Alex's last comment, we will send this back to the Task Force for additional work.
- 21:30:53 [greggvanderheiden]
- can you get consensu on these edits
- 21:31:11 [greggvanderheiden]
- WCAG2ICT can take up further discussion
- 21:31:22 [greggvanderheiden]
- that topic didn’t come from WCAG2ICT
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- -[Microsoft.aa]
- 21:31:29 [greggvanderheiden]
- don't reject their language
- 21:31:37 [greggvanderheiden]
- because of a new topic
- 21:31:44 [Loretta]
- We are sending back the edited version for further discussion. (Edits accepted).
- 21:31:53 [greggvanderheiden]
- OK
- 21:31:55 [greggvanderheiden]
- thanks
- 21:32:11 [Kathy]
- RESOLUTION: Send the edited version back to the Task Force for review and discussion on Alex's comment on user agents.
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- -MoeKraft
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/01-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
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- -[Microsoft]
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- We will hold the last survey item until next week.
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- -Kathy
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- zakim, please part
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, mijordan, [Microsoft], Kathy, Robin_Tuttle, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, James_Nurthen, Marc_Johlic,
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/01-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
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- rrsagent, please part
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- I see no action items