IRC log of wai-wcag on 2012-11-01

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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 01 November 2012
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Chair: Loretta
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scribe: Kathy
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Scribenick+ Kathy
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TOPIC: LC-2584 : The description of what is sufficient to pass as a simple table is insufficient
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20:18:06 [AWK]
This is not the case for all tables (e.g. simple tables which only have row headings) but describes a common scenario.
20:20:00 [Loretta]
Simple tables generally have only one level of headers for columns, one level of headers for rows, or both.
20:27:22 [Loretta]
Otherwise, the column 1 cells would contain data and would be marked up as data cells.
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20:30:19 [Kathy]
RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
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TOPIC: Approval of WCAG2ICT "Understanding Key Terms"
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20:55:22 [robin]
more grammer: under User Agent, Notes 1 and 2 use "is not" but Note 3 uses "isn't"
20:56:57 [robin]
more grammer: under Content, Note 2 has "user agent isn't required in order communicate the content's information" and is missing "to" after "in order"
20:58:43 [robin]
more grammer: the definition for User Agent has a period, the others do not
21:02:26 [robin]
more grammer: most all notes end in a period, but not all
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21:25:10 [robin]
under software, in note 3, was the double "provide" already mentioned?
21:26:00 [robin]
the "provides" on either side of the struck out "user agent functionality"
21:26:34 [Loretta]
* James, I intentionally avoided saying that. It feels like we have devolved into a TaskForce meeting.
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21:29:21 [greggvanderheiden]
I am off but can you call consensu on this one?
21:29:36 [greggvanderheiden]
and on Maureens edit to the last one?
21:29:45 [Loretta]
I'm asking Alex.
21:30:11 [greggvanderheiden]
can someone patch me in 608-514-9539
21:30:35 [Loretta]
Because we couldn't reach consensus on Alex's last comment, we will send this back to the Task Force for additional work.
21:30:53 [greggvanderheiden]
can you get consensu on these edits
21:31:11 [greggvanderheiden]
WCAG2ICT can take up further discussion
21:31:22 [greggvanderheiden]
that topic didn’t come from WCAG2ICT
21:31:27 [Zakim]
21:31:29 [greggvanderheiden]
don't reject their language
21:31:37 [greggvanderheiden]
because of a new topic
21:31:44 [Loretta]
We are sending back the edited version for further discussion. (Edits accepted).
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21:32:11 [Kathy]
RESOLUTION: Send the edited version back to the Task Force for review and discussion on Alex's comment on user agents.
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21:33:55 [jamesn]
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21:34:09 [Loretta]
We will hold the last survey item until next week.
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21:34:36 [jamesn]
zakim, please part
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, mijordan, [Microsoft], Kathy, Robin_Tuttle, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, James_Nurthen, Marc_Johlic,
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... MoeKraft, +1.617.584.aaaa
21:34:42 [jamesn]
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I have made the request to generate jamesn
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I see no action items