13:40:49 RRSAgent has joined #disaster 13:40:49 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-irc 13:41:09 Meeting: Media and Disaster 13:41:18 ... if we have standards to share information, that is very useful 13:41:46 Scribe: fwtnb 13:41:47 ... triple disaster 13:42:07 Chair: Yosuke_Funahashi 13:42:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:42:33 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html sangwhan 13:42:38 ... earthquake, tsunami, nuclear disaster 13:43:23 ... disasters can happen in NYC 13:43:36 ... [ showing photos on NYT ] 13:43:40 futomi has joined #disaster 13:44:29 ... there were 4 events in japan this year 13:44:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:44:45 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html sangwhan 13:44:49 ... Big data workshop led by Google Japan and Twitter Japan 13:45:48 ... 2nd one is Symposium on Web and Tv 2012 13:46:06 ... 3rd is Big tent in Sendai 13:46:27 ... last one is Sendai Dialogue led by the World Bank 13:48:22 fwtnb: [ showing slides ] 13:48:35 kaz has joined #disaster 13:48:46 fwtnb: big datas of Google 13:48:49 rrsagent, make log public 13:48:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:48:55 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html kaz 13:49:10 Daisuke has joined #disaster 13:49:29 Yosuke: NHK also has big data 13:49:46 kawada has joined #disaster 13:49:50 fwtnb: gray area shows interuppted @@ 13:49:59 ... red area is mobile connection 13:50:14 s/... if we have/yosuke: if we have/ 13:50:19 ... number os twetter after the disaster of one week 13:50:26 s/twetter/twitter/ 13:50:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:50:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html kaz 13:50:36 ... datas on using Google application to show images 13:50:50 ... Twitter had hush tag 13:51:06 ... how we could use hush tag effectively 13:51:11 s/hush tag/hash tags/g 13:51:17 i/fwtnb: [ showing slides ]/scribenick: naomi/ 13:51:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:51:19 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html kaz 13:51:24 ... blue circles indicates that broadcaster's information 13:51:53 ... people used those bigdatas to analyze information 13:52:01 ... needed visualized information 13:52:12 i/fwtnb: [ showing slides ]/scribenick: naomi/ 13:52:13 ... we have to figure out how we can provide information 13:52:23 i/showing slides/scribenick: naomi/ 13:52:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:52:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html kaz 13:52:41 Yosuke: comments? 13:52:55 scribenick: fwtnb 13:53:45 Robin : One of the topic in the symposium is disaster 13:53:51 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:53:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html sangwhan 13:54:17 ... many issues were discussed in the symposium 13:54:33 skim has left #disaster 13:54:38 ... and there are lots of topics related to W3C 13:54:40 Yoshihiro has joined #disaster 13:55:07 Numabe : I'm from Fuji Television in Japan 13:55:27 skim has joined #disaster 13:55:31 ... I can talk about actual usecases in Japan 13:56:11 ... broadcasting is not enough 13:56:55 ... there were big earthquake in Japan 1995 13:57:17 ... at that time there were no internet available to people 13:57:25 s/usecases/use cases/ 13:57:31 ... only source we had is TV 13:58:02 ... compare with the past, we have internet and SNS today 13:58:46 ... using SNS and Ustream to deliver latest information as fast as possible 13:59:56 ... people in Tokyo got information through internet and One-seg (Japanese broadcasting for mobile phone) 14:00:41 ... we ( broadcaster ) were really helped by internet 14:00:45 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1seg 14:02:04 Shoko: Big tent in Sendai was held in July 2 14:03:09 ... google crisis response team, students from New Zealand and many others join this event to show what they had done 14:03:27 Yosuke: lets move on to the next event 14:03:37 ... Sendai Dialogue 14:04:21 ... the World Bank is now encouraging every gov to use their money for disaster prevention 14:05:15 ... message from The World Bank is "disaster is the main stream" 14:05:36 ... Again, in the nut shell 14:05:51 ... [ review slides ] 14:06:24 ... what we can do inside W3C and outside W3C 14:06:47 ... NHK, Fuji Television and Tomo-Digi prepared doc for this session 14:06:57 ... NHK and Fuji Television and Tomo-Digi prepared a document for this session 14:08:04 Matsumura : mostly explained by Yosuke 14:08:08 http://www.w3.org/community/webandbroadcasting/wiki/MediaTechnologiesInTheTimeOfDisaster 14:08:37 ... but I'd like to hear people's comments on how to combine broadcasting and internet 14:09:02 q+ 14:09:18 shin has joined #disaster 14:09:58 Yosuke: there are some issues that we can think of 14:10:28 ... we listed these issues with broadcasting experts and internet experts 14:11:18 ... getting more and more convenient device, people will get weaker and weaker 14:11:59 ... if people depend on new services, some responsibility must come along with it 14:12:46 ... There are some places that we can talk these issues 14:14:42 ... Initial mapping with W3C activity 14:14:53 ... any comments? 14:15:46 sangwhan : its hard to get data connection even in not disaster time 14:15:48 s/... but I'd/Matsumura: but I'd/ 14:15:54 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:15:54 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html kaz 14:16:17 Yosuke: notification and alerts are important 14:16:27 ... but we need more information 14:16:58 sangwhan : we can use multi-casting 14:18:06 ?? : have you ever heard other disasters in different region? 14:18:40 ... are there any summary? 14:18:59 s/??/Kevin/ 14:19:38 present+ Sangwhan_Moon 14:20:00 Yosuke: one possible scenario 14:20:10 ... [ show slide ] 14:20:57 ... we have lot of stakeholders, so talking this item in Web and TV IG is not good idea so far 14:21:23 robin has joined #disaster 14:21:32 ... eGov, GLD, LDP may be some candidate to work with 14:21:35 krp has joined #disaster 14:22:07 ... and Web and Broadcasting BG also 14:22:12 ... next step 14:22:48 ... any comments? 14:23:00 ?? : wondering about timeline 14:23:26 s/??/takuya/ 14:23:54 ... no reliability of internet connection in disaster time 14:24:15 I believe that this work might need to collaborate with groups outside W3C for the reliable transport bit, since low level transport is not quite handled here (example: GSMA) 14:24:45 ... google person finder is a good example 14:26:06 Yosuke: some telecommunication company try hard to establish reliable system 14:26:33 ... but thats why only internet is not enough 14:26:46 s/thats/that's/ 14:27:53 ... If no combination of internet and broadcasting, people can not get information in disaster time 14:28:27 Okamoto : two problems 14:28:36 ... network and interface 14:29:47 ... I know telecom companies try hard to create reliable connection 14:30:23 takuya: internet is not the only way of course 14:30:44 Yosuke: we have to use whatever we can 14:30:58 takuya: recommendation 14:31:08 ... consider use cases 14:32:08 kaz : why don't you include discussions with local broadcasters 14:32:20 Yosuke: quick vote 14:32:50 ... Web and Broadcasting BG - 12 14:33:11 ... Web and TV IG - 8 14:33:20 s/local broadcasters/closed-circuit TV providers including local broadcasters?/ 14:33:45 ... other existing CG/IG/WG - 7 14:34:07 ... new CG - 11 14:34:29 ... other SDOs - 0 14:35:02 ... I will start this discussion in some group in W3C 14:35:10 ACTION: Yosuke to setup a group or TF as a follow-up 14:35:29 rrsagent, make minutes public 14:35:29 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', sangwhan. Try /msg RRSAgent help 14:35:34 [ adjourned ] 14:35:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:35:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html kaz 14:35:42 Takahiro has left #disaster 14:35:45 kenji has left #disaster 14:35:56 rrsagent, make minutes 14:35:56 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html sangwhan 14:40:50 sakkuru has joined #disaster 14:44:57 massimo has joined #disaster 14:52:08 kinji has joined #disaster 14:54:20 naomi has joined #disaster 14:55:04 massimo has joined #disaster 14:56:06 Yanagiuchi has joined #disaster 14:56:47 Dewa has left #disaster 14:58:01 krp has joined #disaster 15:00:04 kinji has joined #disaster 15:01:15 hitoshi__ has joined #disaster 15:01:22 leetv has joined #disaster 15:01:28 Takahiro has joined #disaster 15:01:57 hitoshi__ has joined #disaster 15:02:39 kawada has joined #disaster 15:02:45 naomi has joined #disaster 15:04:17 sakkuru has joined #disaster 15:05:53 kawada has left #disaster 15:06:06 Takahiro has joined #disaster 15:09:42 krp has left #disaster 15:13:26 sangwhan has joined #disaster 15:14:17 sangwhan has left #disaster 15:18:55 hitoshi__ has joined #disaster 15:38:45 hitoshi__ has joined #disaster 15:44:25 jiro has joined #disaster 15:44:34 jiro has left #disaster 16:02:01 leetv has joined #disaster 16:02:11 kawakami has joined #disaster 16:02:17 hitoshi__ has joined #disaster 16:02:56 Yanagiuchi has joined #disaster 16:04:00 kinji has joined #disaster 16:05:29 Takahiro has joined #disaster 16:06:05 Takahiro has left #disaster 16:08:07 leetv_ has joined #disaster 16:32:50 leetv_ has left #disaster