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18 Oct 2012

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
+3539149aabb, George_Thomas, Sandro, DaveReynolds, +1.540.898.aacc, +1.757.604.aadd, PhilA, gatemezi, bhyland, agipap, MHausenblas, martinAlvarez, olyerickson, Mike_Pendleton, +1.703.201.aaee, tinagheen
Regrets
Chair
George
Scribe
mhausenblas

Contents


<scribe> scribenick: mhausenblas

<gatemezi> URL: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-10-11

PROPOSAL: Accept minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-10-11

+1

<DaveReynolds> +1

<George> +1

<gatemezi> +1

RESOLUTION: Accept minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-10-11

<PhilA> +1

<agipap> +1

DaveReynolds: addressed open issues around ORG

… stuff raised by bart re extensions

… some more Editorial comments from James

<DaveReynolds> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/static.html

DaveReynolds: propose to go to LC with this version now

George: Sandro, what's next?

sandro: so, it means everyone in the WG had their say
... seems this is the case concerning ORG

George: agreed

sandro: so, once we go into LC, we elicit feedback from the wider community (non-GLD)

<PhilA> W3C process document -> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#last-call

PhilA: at least three weeks required

Michael: I'd suggest 4w+

<PhilA> Suggests Sun 25 Nov as closing date

+1

<gatemezi> +1

<olyerickson> +1 to no premature +1-ing

<PhilA> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: That the ORG Ontology at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/index.html is moved to Last Call with a date of Sunday 25th November as the end of the LC period

<George> +1

<DaveReynolds> +1

<PhilA> +1

+1

<gatemezi> +1

<sandro> +1

<bhyland> +1

<agipap> +1

RESOLUTION: That the ORG Ontology at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/index.html is moved to Last Call with a date of Sunday 25th November as the end of the LC period

<bhyland> yeah! Well done Dave Reynolds, thank you for your dedication to getting this work done!!

Congrats!!!

ADMS see http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/adms/index.html

<sandro> +1 DaveReynolds !

PhilA: I've been updating ADMS doc

<George> +1 DaveReynolds !!

PhilA: esp. the high-level review
... Dave mentioned deprecating 'file' everywhere

… also incl. the RDF properties

PhilA: I'm talking about the REC track document here, btw
... hopefully next week

bhyland: so, overall seems stabilizing, so people can start reviewing?

PhilA: essentially, yes
... so for this time next week we could decide going LC with the ADMS

<bhyland> Note: Gofran Shukair is the co-author who nurtured ADMS from the beginning out of DERI NUIG.

<bhyland> Per Deirdre: Gofran will be presenting ADMS at ISWC in Boston in November.

DeirdreLee: Gofran will be around next week as well

DaveReynolds: the relationship to DCAT should be clarified

PhilA: I have extended the intro for that, ye

DCAT requirements for LC discussion

<bhyland> See http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/

olyerickson: not sure where we are re the process

DeirdreLee: Fadi will soon join us here on the call

<bhyland> ACTION: Remove Phil Archer as an editor on the FPWD because he hasn't been involved. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/18-gld-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find Remove. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.

<bhyland> ACTION: Remove PhilA as an editor and instead acknowledge him as a "Contributor" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/18-gld-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find Remove. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.

<scribe> ACTION: PhilA to change PhilA and olyerickson as an editor and instead acknowledge him as a "Contributor" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/18-gld-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Change PhilA and olyerickson as an editor and instead acknowledge him as a "Contributor" [on Phil Archer - due 2012-10-25].

<olyerickson> +1 to olyerickson and PhilA being demoted to "Contributor"

fadmaa: 5-6 issues are still unresloved
... will address them in the next two days or so
... and then there is the conformance section

bhyland: there is a lot of work here and fadmaa was certainly the main driver - but weren't there others that contributed as well (from an historic perspective)

<PhilA> +1 to olyerickson

sandro: for a period the IG under Richard maintained it

olyerickson: fadmaa was the main driver and did the main work

<bhyland> RE: Open Issues for DCAT, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/open

fadmaa: Richard C certainly also contributed and in total there where some 10 people that contributed

AOB

Linked Data Glossary, see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html

<olyerickson> Background on bhyland's "Tom Heath" comment: Glossary at http://linkeddata.org is weak...

bhyland: might have more impact if it's an WG Note than as Wiki page

<olyerickson> Tom Heath's "glossary" is at http://linkeddata.org/glossary

BTW, that's not Tom's … it's collective, for example, I have an Drupal account there and did add to it ...

Michael: +1 for http://docs.webplatform.org/

<Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to suggest a different venue

<PhilA> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://youtu.be/Ug6XAw6hzaw

<PhilA> the main driver at W3C has been Doug Scheppers

<PhilA> Press release http://www.w3.org/2012/10/webplatform.html.en

<bhyland> Linked Data should *absolutely* be part of any discussion about Web Platform!!!

<olyerickson> Excuse me, but...could someone please summarize what we're looking at, why we are looking at it, etc

<bhyland> Per Sandro, the Web Platform is about what Web developers do ...

<olyerickson> HELP! I don't understand the context for this...

<olyerickson> +1 to resolving the issues we need to

<bhyland> For the record, I think that Linked Data has a tremendous amount to do with what Web developers do. Best practices for describing data, per the W3C RDF family of standards, is central to what we do, IMO.

PhilA, that reminds me of http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/interest/ldh/

<bhyland> Sandro: A Working Note is appropriate to convey new concepts or terms.

<bhyland> A wiki is more appropriate for non-original source material.

<bhyland> Web platform is more of an outreach tool, not a place to put specifications.

sandro: Wiki/WP is more outreach than original stuff

<olyerickson> Opinion - Linked Data "glossary" should be on a wiki-ish platform, with no "official" status. LinkedData.org glossary should link to that. WebPlatform.org should link to that or host to that. W3C wiki *could* host it.

<olyerickson> * "Glossary" should NOT have any "official" status

The Vocabulary Formerly Known as "Core Business" and "Legal Entity"

Name for XXX vocab

Core Business Vocabulary renamed to Legal Entity

PhilA: covers the basics of legal entities, internationally

<bhyland> Legal Entity means it established by a local business register, different in every jurisdiction, that is what establishes your organization as legal entity.

<sandro> I'm thinking "registered organization"

<sandro> reg-org

<PhilA> Registered Legal Entity

<PhilA> Registered Organization Vocabulary

<PhilA> Registered Corporate Entity

<PhilA> Registered Business Entity

<bhyland> PhilA: Renaming it from formal business organization is OK but we need something more accurately reflecting the type of organization

<sandro> +1 Registered Organization

<bhyland> I vote for "Registered Business Entity"

Michael: I have a question - are you talking LE in the sense of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_person ...?

<DaveReynolds> As I put on email, I'm OK with all of those, slight preference for Registered Organization Vocabulary

<gatemezi> +1 Registered Organization Vocab

<DeirdreLee> +1 Registered Organisation

Michael: I think I don't care but important to maintain the difference between a natural person and a legal person

<olyerickson> +1 to {Registered Entity | Registered Legal Entity}

Michael: I go with whatever makes PhilA happy (on this point and this point only ;)

<George> +1 :)

<bhyland> +1 Registered Organization Vocabulary

<DeirdreLee> But if we have Registered Organization and ORG, may this imply that Org is only for unregistered Organisation? (even thought this isn't the case)

<PhilA> ROV

<olyerickson> Bonus prize, that RegOrg fits under ORG

<olyerickson> RegORG and ORG

<olyerickson> Bazinga

<PhilA> regORG

BORG?

<bhyland> Agreed: Registered Organization (shortname: RegOrg)

DeirdreLee: not totally sure how it is difference from ORG, though

<gatemezi> +1 to have RegOrg

<bhyland> We're agreed to describe the relationship between the two vocabs

<olyerickson> No, a RegORG is subclass of something described by ORG

<DaveReynolds> To me RegORG is an ORG profile with enriches the description of registration identifiers

<bhyland> Thanks all for a very productive discussion & mtg.

<bhyland> Thanks George

<PhilA> +1 to DaveReynolds comment there

<bhyland> Just follow the directions … http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20121018#Scribe.27s_End_of_Meeting_Checklist

<DaveReynolds> bye all, thanks

<bhyland> Thanks mhausenblas!

trackbot, end telecon

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: PhilA to change PhilA and olyerickson as an editor and instead acknowledge him as a "Contributor" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/18-gld-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Remove Phil Archer as an editor on the FPWD because he hasn't been involved. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/18-gld-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Remove PhilA as an editor and instead acknowledge him as a "Contributor" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/18-gld-minutes.html#action02]
 
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