IRC log of rd on 2012-10-17
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 7394
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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- Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
- 13:23:50 [trackbot]
- Date: 17 October 2012
- 13:23:57 [shawn]
- Chair: Simon
- 13:24:00 [shawn]
- agenda?
- 13:24:15 [shawn]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 13:24:15 [Zakim]
- WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has not yet started, shawn
- 13:24:16 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, shawn, Justin_Brown, nonge, trackbot
- 13:24:42 [shawn]
- zakim, ok, good, just wanted to check that you're not confused like you were last week :)
- 13:24:42 [Zakim]
- I'm glad that smiley is there, shawn
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 13:26:26 [Zakim]
- WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has not yet started, shadi
- 13:26:27 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see shadi, Zakim, RRSAgent, shawn, Justin_Brown, nonge, trackbot
- 13:26:56 [Justin_Brown]
- me
- 13:27:14 [shadi]
- zakim, this is rd
- 13:27:14 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
- 13:27:16 [shadi]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 13:27:16 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a]
- 13:27:24 [shadi]
- zakim, ipcaller is Justin_Brown
- 13:27:24 [Zakim]
- +Justin_Brown; got it
- 13:27:31 [shadi]
- zakim, ipcaller.a is me
- 13:27:31 [Zakim]
- +shadi; got it
- 13:27:32 [Luz]
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- sharper has joined #rd
- 13:27:56 [annika]
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- +Shawn
- 13:28:38 [sharper]
- trackbot, start meeting
- 13:28:38 [sharper]
- zakim, please clear the agenda
- 13:28:38 [Zakim]
- agenda cleared
- 13:28:40 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 7394
- 13:28:42 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
- 13:28:43 [trackbot]
- Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
- 13:28:43 [trackbot]
- Date: 17 October 2012
- 13:28:44 [sharper]
- Chair: Harper_Simon
- 13:28:45 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
- 13:28:45 [sharper]
- Agenda+ TC and E2R updates [shawn/klaus]
- 13:28:46 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Next Topic Candidate - "User Modelling"
- 13:28:46 [sharper]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/User_modelling (10m) [yehya/christos]
- 13:28:46 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Next Topic Candidate - "Notifications and Interruptions" (10m)
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- [markku]
- 13:28:47 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Next Topic Candidate - Any Others (10m) [all]
- 13:28:47 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Mobile W3C Note Status (5m) [sharper]
- 13:28:48 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Mobile Roadmap (10m) [sharper/all]
- 13:28:48 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Metrics W3C Note Status (5m) [shadi]
- 13:28:48 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Issues and Actions (Standing Item):
- 13:28:48 [sharper]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/ [sharper]
- 13:28:49 [sharper]
- Agenda+ Any Other Business (Standing Item) [sharper]
- 13:28:51 [sharper]
- zakim, save agenda
- 13:28:56 [sharper]
- zakim, take up item 1
- 13:28:57 [Zakim]
- ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/17-rd-agenda.rdf
- 13:28:59 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
- 13:29:11 [sharper]
- Regrets: klaus, peter
- 13:29:36 [shadi]
- zakim, this is rd
- 13:29:36 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
- 13:29:42 [christos]
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 13:29:44 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Justin_Brown, shadi, Shawn, [IPcaller], ??P15
- 13:30:00 [vivienne]
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- 13:30:15 [annika]
- zakim, ??P15 is annika
- 13:30:15 [Zakim]
- +annika; got it
- 13:30:16 [Zakim]
- +??P16
- 13:30:23 [Silvia]
- Silvia has joined #rd
- 13:30:27 [christos]
- zakim, ??P16 is me
- 13:30:27 [Zakim]
- +christos; got it
- 13:30:30 [annika]
- zakim, mute me
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- annika should now be muted
- 13:30:44 [christos]
- zakim, mute me
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- christos should now be muted
- 13:31:18 [Zakim]
- +??P17
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- 13:31:33 [Silvia]
- zakim, ??P17 is me
- 13:31:33 [Zakim]
- +Silvia; got it
- 13:31:51 [Silvia]
- zakim, mute me
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- Silvia should now be muted
- 13:32:08 [Zakim]
- +??P18
- 13:32:17 [vivienne]
- zakim, ??P18 is me
- 13:32:17 [Zakim]
- +vivienne; got it
- 13:32:19 [shawn]
- ack me
- 13:32:24 [Luz]
- zakim, [IPcaller] is me
- 13:32:24 [Zakim]
- sorry, Luz, I do not recognize a party named '[IPcaller]'
- 13:32:44 [shadi]
- zakim, shawn.a is really Luz
- 13:32:44 [Zakim]
- sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named 'shawn.a'
- 13:32:54 [shadi]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 13:32:54 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Justin_Brown, shadi, Shawn (muted), shawn, annika (muted), christos (muted), Silvia (muted), vivienne
- 13:33:03 [Zakim]
- + +1.609.734.aaaa
- 13:33:13 [shadi]
- zakim, shawn is really Luz
- 13:33:13 [Zakim]
- sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named 'shawn'
- 13:33:35 [shadi]
- zakim, shawn is Luz
- 13:33:35 [Zakim]
- sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named 'shawn'
- 13:34:02 [Zakim]
- -Shawn
- 13:34:02 [Justin_Brown]
- toodles
- 13:34:05 [shadi]
- zakim, shawn is Luz
- 13:34:05 [Zakim]
- +Luz; got it
- 13:34:12 [Luz]
- Thank you!
- 13:34:32 [Zakim]
- +Shawn
- 13:34:35 [mhakkinen]
- mhakkinen has joined #rd
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- +??P20
- 13:34:39 [vivienne]
- zakim, muteme
- 13:34:39 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'muteme', vivienne
- 13:34:54 [Luz]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:34:54 [Zakim]
- Luz should now be muted
- 13:34:56 [shadi]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 13:34:56 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Justin_Brown, shadi, Luz (muted), annika (muted), christos (muted), Silvia (muted), vivienne, +1.609.734.aaaa, Shawn, ??P20
- 13:34:58 [markel]
- zakim, ??P20 is markel
- 13:34:58 [Zakim]
- +markel; got it
- 13:35:11 [vivienne]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:35:11 [Zakim]
- vivienne should now be muted
- 13:36:07 [mhakkinen]
- zakim, aaaa is mhakkinen
- 13:36:07 [Zakim]
- +mhakkinen; got it
- 13:36:49 [shadi]
- scribe: Justin_Brown
- 13:38:07 [vivienne]
- Justin, we get to give you a score out of 10 at the end of the meeting on your scribing!
- 13:38:16 [shawn]
- Present: Justin_Brown, Shadi, Luz, Annika, Christos, Silvia, Vivienne, Markku Hakkinen, Shawn, Markel
- 13:38:23 [Justin_Brown]
- you'd better give me a 10 - or else :)
- 13:38:32 [markel]
- q+
- 13:39:04 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 13:39:04 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
- 13:39:08 [Justin_Brown]
- markel: indicates simon will be late and to start without him
- 13:39:12 [shawn]
- ack m
- 13:39:18 [shadi]
- zakim, close agendum 1
- 13:39:19 [Zakim]
- agendum 1, Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments), closed
- 13:39:19 [Zakim]
- I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 13:39:19 [Zakim]
- 2. TC and E2R updates [from shawn/klaus via sharper]
- 13:39:23 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 13:39:23 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "TC and E2R updates" taken up [from shawn/klaus]
- 13:39:41 [shawn]
- ack me
- 13:41:07 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: TC and E2R updates - crafting the symposium itself - talked about no rehashing papers - setting goals - not a review of paper themselves - not authors to be asked questions - duration (perhaps longer than 2 hours) - looking for feedback
- 13:41:41 [shawn]
- s/not authors to be asked questions/maybe not authors to be asked questions/
- 13:42:14 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: issues in the past - length of papers, perhaps go beyond 1000 words, and problems with html validity of html
- 13:42:51 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: lets go with any one you would like to discuss
- 13:43:14 [vivienne]
- q+
- 13:43:18 [vivienne]
- ack me
- 13:43:19 [annika]
- +q
- 13:43:20 [shawn]
- ack v
- 13:43:26 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: interested in input on running symposium itself - is it ok to not ask all authors questions or is the length long enough
- 13:43:55 [Justin_Brown]
- vivienne: given authors have written a paper should they not be given an opp to answer questions?
- 13:45:00 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: shawn agrees - needs to be managed - perhaps let authors know ahead of time that they may not be able to answer questions - they can then choose not to participate if they do not want - some papers are on the same topics
- 13:45:35 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: maybe find at least one relevant question per paper from this group
- 13:45:36 [annika]
- ack me
- 13:45:39 [vivienne]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:45:39 [Zakim]
- vivienne should now be muted
- 13:46:31 [Justin_Brown]
- anika: another idea of how to involve the paper authors - ask everyone to read all the papers and to have questions to asks
- 13:46:39 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: thinks its an excellent idea
- 13:47:32 [shawn]
- s/ask everyone to read all the papers and to have questions to asks/ask people to ask questions about papers related to theirs//
- 13:48:10 [Justin_Brown]
- anika: correction - ask authors to write questions - can it be longer than 2 hours - perhaps it is too long to go beyond 2 hours unless there can be a break
- 13:48:18 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: perhaps a 10 minute break
- 13:48:21 [Luz]
- Ten minutes should be fine.
- 13:48:24 [vivienne]
- q+
- 13:48:26 [Justin_Brown]
- anikea: 10 minutes ok
- 13:48:26 [annika]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:48:26 [Zakim]
- annika should now be muted
- 13:48:29 [vivienne]
- ack me
- 13:49:00 [vivienne]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:49:00 [Zakim]
- vivienne should now be muted
- 13:49:02 [Justin_Brown]
- vivienne: if you are going to take a break - for anyone in the southern hemisphere they might leave during a break
- 13:49:07 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: shawn agreed
- 13:49:53 [Zakim]
- +??P22
- 13:51:02 [Luz]
- Good idea, Shadi :-)
- 13:51:03 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: shadi agrees with both anika and shawn, and that if a paper is not worth a question is it worth accepting in the first place - would like to play around to see if people would come back after a small break
- 13:51:33 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: if there is a specific sub-topic, it could be done after a break (after the main session)
- 13:51:39 [christos]
- q+
- 13:51:40 [markel]
- agree with SAZ
- 13:51:53 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: careful not to treat papers as secondary (or who comes first then second)
- 13:52:00 [sharper]
- zakim, ??P22 is sharper
- 13:52:00 [Zakim]
- +sharper; got it
- 13:52:10 [christos]
- ack me
- 13:52:56 [Justin_Brown]
- christos: splitting the symposium over the break (essentially two sessions)
- 13:53:04 [vivienne]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:53:04 [Zakim]
- vivienne was already muted, vivienne
- 13:53:06 [christos]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:53:06 [Zakim]
- christos should now be muted
- 13:54:41 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: discussed the quality of papers - how are people responding to your calls - two of the revised papers submitted - 4 more said they would be submitting (1 said too busy) - some position papers and some research papers
- 13:54:54 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: are people going beyond the 1000 word limit
- 13:55:32 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: at least one of the resubmitted papers said they had to go over 1000 words to address comments
- 13:55:57 [shawn]
- q+ to ask html
- 13:56:02 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: concerned that papers not go too far beyond the 1000 word limit, not fair to others who stuck to limit
- 13:56:11 [shawn]
- ack me
- 13:56:11 [Zakim]
- shawn, you wanted to ask html
- 13:56:28 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: shadi concerned with quality of html - does not wish others to do the clean up
- 13:57:41 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: some html very good, some not so good - some authors know nothing about html - some even do word processor Save As approach - perhaps someone from this group could help them with their html
- 13:58:14 [shawn]
- Justin: I could get students to assist with that
- 13:58:21 [shadi]
- *wohooooo*
- 13:58:35 [Justin_Brown]
- justin: offered student assistance with html
- 13:59:27 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: could simon record this as an issue after the symposium - perhaps provide a template for others
- 13:59:33 [sharper]
- ISSUE: HTML templates after the e2r symposia
- 13:59:33 [trackbot]
- Created ISSUE-3 - HTML templates after the e2r symposia ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/issues/3/edit .
- 14:00:25 [sharper]
- report from Klaus (in his absence)
- 14:00:26 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: no one here from easy to read - lets move on to next agenda item
- 14:00:26 [sharper]
- 1) We received 16 submissions + one in the wrong format which is bounced back by the system (not valid HTML). We asked to send a proper file but did not get it so far.
- 14:00:27 [sharper]
- 2) A frist screening showed that 15 are relevant for the topic; one seems to be a bid of topic. In any case we will have to decide how many papers we would like to include. Any recommendation from the group is welcome, even if we should run the the symposium with two dates.
- 14:00:27 [sharper]
- 3) Those who are involved in reviewing: Thanks and please remind the deadline (Friday 19)
- 14:00:27 [sharper]
- 14:00:55 [shawn]
- [ Shawn agrees not to have two teleconferences for e2r]
- 14:00:55 [annika]
- +q
- 14:01:04 [sharper]
- ack a
- 14:01:06 [annika]
- ack me
- 14:01:07 [shawn]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:01:07 [Zakim]
- Shawn should now be muted
- 14:01:41 [Zakim]
- -Silvia
- 14:01:52 [Justin_Brown]
- anika: thinks it is unfair splitting the symposium over two calls - unfair on authors ending up in the second call
- 14:01:55 [annika]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:01:55 [Zakim]
- annika should now be muted
- 14:02:05 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: next topic
- 14:02:06 [shawn]
- ack me
- 14:02:19 [Justin_Brown]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:02:19 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Next Topic Candidate - "User Modelling"" taken up [from sharper]
- 14:02:22 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 14:02:45 [Silvia]
- [IPCaller] is me
- 14:02:59 [Silvia]
- had problems with skyèe
- 14:03:02 [Silvia]
- skype
- 14:03:23 [sharper]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/User_modelling
- 14:03:51 [christos]
- ack me
- 14:04:04 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: adds new topic of user_modelling, wants to have a longer conversation but yeya was not here - qhat do people think of this user modelling topic
- 14:04:19 [shawn]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:04:19 [Zakim]
- Shawn should now be muted
- 14:04:53 [Silvia]
- [IPCaller] is Sivlia
- 14:04:57 [Silvia]
- [IPCaller] is Silvia
- 14:05:00 [shawn]
- s/yeya/Yehya
- 14:05:44 [Silvia]
- zakim, [IPCaller] is silvia
- 14:05:44 [Zakim]
- +silvia; got it
- 14:06:46 [Justin_Brown]
- christos: we are having a number of systems which are trying to model the user, many other solutions from e-learning domain - every kind of system that comes out has its own user model - there is a bit of a problem with combining different model - there is a need to see if a standard model can be designed to capture all the different user modelling needs and frameworks - other issues include ethical issues of security and privacy - users mode[CUT]
- 14:07:09 [sharper]
- http://gpii.net/
- 14:07:13 [Justin_Brown]
- christos: personal information which should not be exposed - this is what we want to discuss in the user modelling topic
- 14:07:45 [markel]
- I'm happy with the topic
- 14:07:48 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: other projects we can get input from - is it a good thing to be doing for the next symposium
- 14:08:08 [christos]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:08:08 [Zakim]
- christos should now be muted
- 14:08:11 [shawn]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:08:11 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Justin_Brown, shadi, Luz (muted), annika (muted), christos (muted), vivienne (muted), mhakkinen, Shawn (muted), markel, sharper, silvia
- 14:08:12 [Silvia]
- the topic is really interesting
- 14:08:35 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: very interesting topic, but 2 - 3 other topic candidates
- 14:09:18 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: yes other candidates - just want to get some feedback on this topic before moving onto notifications and interruptions
- 14:10:01 [mhakkinen]
- http://www.diagramcenter.org
- 14:10:04 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/User_modelling
- 14:10:30 [shawn]
- mhakkinen is Markku (aka Mark)
- 14:10:40 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Smart_Images
- 14:11:47 [shawn]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 14:11:50 [Justin_Brown]
- mhakkinen: describes smart images project - images that carry along with them in-built descriptive information about the image that can be read by accessibility tools
- 14:11:58 [Zakim]
- shawn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Justin_Brown (10%)
- 14:12:47 [Justin_Brown]
- mhakkinen: would be a good topic for a symposium to see who is doing work in this area and to use it to get input into the w3c work - ie go beyond longdesc
- 14:13:13 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: might other people from european projects get involved
- 14:13:22 [markel]
- It comes to my mind the name of Leo Ferres and his papers of graph description
- 14:13:24 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Accessible_Maps
- 14:13:32 [markel]
- http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1368044.1368053
- 14:13:59 [markel]
- http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1296843.1296857
- 14:14:14 [Justin_Brown]
- mhakkinen: will flesh out topic in wiki and happy to get other input
- 14:14:20 [markel]
- q+
- 14:14:22 [shawn]
- sounds interesting
- 14:14:25 [sharper]
- ack m
- 14:14:31 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: does anyone else have any input regarding this topic
- 14:15:04 [Justin_Brown]
- markel: perhaps we could ask leo ferres to get involved
- 14:15:21 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: if he is still working in the field we could ask him
- 14:15:32 [shawn]
- ack me
- 14:15:45 [shawn]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 14:15:47 [shawn]
- ack me
- 14:15:53 [Justin_Brown]
- mhakkinen: once i have critical mass on the wiki will send a note out
- 14:15:55 [Zakim]
- shawn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Shawn (90%), Justin_Brown (5%), silvia (25%), sharper (9%)
- 14:16:12 [Silvia]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:16:12 [Zakim]
- silvia should now be muted
- 14:16:32 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: think it is a very interesting topic - our lead time is a few months - and accessible maps should be included
- 14:16:41 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: anyone else wish to comment
- 14:16:43 [shawn]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:16:43 [Zakim]
- Shawn should now be muted
- 14:17:17 [markel]
- Enabling Access to Geo-referenced Information: Atlas.txt
- 14:17:26 [markel]
- http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1368044.1368066
- 14:18:25 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Accessible_Notifications
- 14:19:41 [Justin_Brown]
- mhakkinen: the topic is accessible notification - consuming web content on multiple devices - manage interruptions from the devices - try shifting the burden of interruptions into the user agent itself - some existing literature - other domains deal wuith issue - 1) what can we do about managing interruptions - 2) how should notifications be authored, in terms of priorties and alerts - some work in US and Europe
- 14:19:54 [Justin_Brown]
- mhakkinen: fleshing out the wiki on the topic
- 14:20:06 [shawn]
- ack me
- 14:20:06 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: does anyone wish to add something on this topic
- 14:20:52 [Justin_Brown]
- shawn: really interesting - person pops to mind - hiroshi from japan
- 14:21:20 [Justin_Brown]
- mhakkinen: works with hiroshi
- 14:21:30 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: anyone else?
- 14:22:14 [vivienne]
- q+
- 14:22:39 [sharper]
- ack v
- 14:22:41 [vivienne]
- ack mew
- 14:22:42 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: asks mhakkinen to populate the topic and come back to these issues in a couple of weeks - perhaps place them in order - certainly the user modelling and maps/smart diagrams are good - the most far reaching is accessible alerts
- 14:22:45 [vivienne]
- ack me
- 14:23:13 [Justin_Brown]
- vivienne: missed the last couple of calls - are we close to looking at topics for january
- 14:23:56 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: these will jabuary/february time - these will be topics from 5 onwards - based on if the charter gets renewed from June next year
- 14:24:42 [shawn]
- Justin: Sylvia & I communicated by e-mail - just need to find the time to feed the wiki
- 14:24:42 [Justin_Brown]
- vivienne: weren't we looking at something regarding e-learning
- 14:24:57 [Justin_Brown]
- justin: sylvia and I will be working on it as soon as we can find time
- 14:25:07 [vivienne]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:25:07 [Zakim]
- vivienne should now be muted
- 14:25:18 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: any more for this topic - time is moving on - will come back to this
- 14:25:41 [Justin_Brown]
- zakim, take up nexy
- 14:25:41 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'take up nexy', Justin_Brown
- 14:25:50 [Justin_Brown]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:25:50 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Next Topic Candidate - "Notifications and Interruptions" (10m)" taken up [from sharper]
- 14:26:05 [shawn]
- zakim, close agendum 4
- 14:26:05 [Zakim]
- agendum 4, Next Topic Candidate - "Notifications and Interruptions" (10m), closed
- 14:26:07 [Zakim]
- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:26:07 [Zakim]
- 5. Next Topic Candidate - Any Others (10m) [from all via sharper]
- 14:26:12 [shawn]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:26:12 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "Next Topic Candidate - Any Others (10m)" taken up [from all]
- 14:26:17 [shawn]
- zakim, close agendum 5
- 14:26:17 [Zakim]
- agendum 5, Next Topic Candidate - Any Others (10m), closed
- 14:26:18 [Zakim]
- I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:26:18 [Zakim]
- 6. Mobile W3C Note Status (5m) [from sharper]
- 14:26:21 [shawn]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:26:21 [Zakim]
- agendum 6. "Mobile W3C Note Status (5m)" taken up [from sharper]
- 14:26:31 [shawn]
- zakim, close agendum 6
- 14:26:31 [Zakim]
- agendum 6, Mobile W3C Note Status (5m), closed
- 14:26:32 [Zakim]
- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:26:32 [Zakim]
- 7. Mobile Roadmap (10m) [from sharper/all via sharper]
- 14:26:35 [shawn]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:26:35 [Zakim]
- agendum 7. "Mobile Roadmap (10m)" taken up [from sharper/all]
- 14:27:13 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: missing from note topic is roadmap - has been speaking with clayton lewis and others and will be interested in coming along to speak to us about mobile - judy brewer interested in discussing mobile roadmap - both this group and the experts from the field - any comments?
- 14:27:39 [markel]
- sounds great to have experts coming
- 14:27:46 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: will arrange for the future and have topic sorted soon
- 14:27:57 [Justin_Brown]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:27:57 [Zakim]
- agendum 8. "Metrics W3C Note Status (5m)" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:28:04 [markel]
- LOL
- 14:28:10 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: should be on holiday
- 14:28:50 [markel]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/comments-20120730
- 14:29:33 [Justin_Brown]
- markel: editors agree on how they address the comments made against the papers - we are close to reaching agreement - next step is to accomplish changes and publish draft
- 14:29:58 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: nice to see so many comments on the topic - were they sensible comments?
- 14:30:23 [shawn]
- ack me
- 14:30:23 [Justin_Brown]
- markel: some good comments, some out of scope - bit of everything but overall a good exercise
- 14:30:37 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: any other business?
- 14:30:51 [Luz]
- I ma
- 14:30:53 [Luz]
- I am
- 14:30:55 [Luz]
- yes~!
- 14:30:59 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: will be at assets conference next week
- 14:31:07 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: purchasing beers for all
- 14:31:49 [Justin_Brown]
- shadi: we should meet next week - to continue the discussion on text customisation and easy to read and some potential topics for further input
- 14:32:06 [Justin_Brown]
- simon: will re-do agena for next week
- 14:32:13 [Silvia]
- ok
- 14:32:33 [vivienne]
- bye now
- 14:32:35 [annika]
- bye
- 14:32:37 [Zakim]
- -vivienne
- 14:32:38 [christos]
- goodbye...
- 14:32:38 [Zakim]
- -mhakkinen
- 14:32:39 [Silvia]
- bye
- 14:32:39 [Luz]
- Bye bye!
- 14:32:40 [markel]
- markel has left #rd
- 14:32:41 [Zakim]
- -shadi
- 14:32:42 [Zakim]
- -Shawn
- 14:32:42 [Zakim]
- -sharper
- 14:32:44 [vivienne]
- vivienne has left #rd
- 14:32:44 [Zakim]
- -markel
- 14:32:48 [Zakim]
- -christos
- 14:32:51 [Zakim]
- -Luz
- 14:32:52 [Zakim]
- -Justin_Brown
- 14:32:52 [Zakim]
- -silvia
- 14:37:53 [Zakim]
- disconnecting the lone participant, annika, in WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
- 14:37:54 [Zakim]
- WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
- 14:37:54 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Justin_Brown, shadi, annika, christos, Silvia, vivienne, +1.609.734.aaaa, Luz, Shawn, markel, mhakkinen, sharper
- 14:38:15 [shadi]
- trackbot, end meeting
- 14:38:15 [trackbot]
- Zakim, list attendees
- 14:38:15 [Zakim]
- sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
- 14:38:23 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 14:38:23 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/17-rd-minutes.html trackbot
- 14:38:24 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 14:38:24 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items