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<trackbot> Date: 04 October 2012
scribe is mmartin3
<Frans_> +41 is Frans
<mijordan> Andrew_Kirkpatrick is mijordan
<trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Glenn Adams to delete R0020 and add introductory text about these styles with descriptions for Section 6.4.2. -- due 2012-09-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
Sean: Keep example. Delete requirement R0020.
mmartin3: Suggest we close
Actions -102, -103.
... Relates to Issue-189
mike: Can close Action-102.
... Close Action-103.
Sean: Pushing for scroll. Falls out from XSL processing model.
mike: Disagreement on scrolling
happening or not in TTML.
... Clarify example.
c/example/with example in TTML 1.0 Second Edition.
Sean: Illustrate semantics.
Resolve to close Action-102 and defer to Issue-189.
<trackbot> ACTION-102 Make changes in Section 8.1.2 as specified http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Sep/0040.html closed
Resolve to close Action-103 and defer to Issue-189.
<trackbot> ACTION-103 Delete R0020 and add introductory text about these styles with descriptions for Section 6.4.2. closed
<trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- do regions scroll their flowed content? -- raised
Mike: Example 5 needs to be revised to handle roll-up.
Create examples in TTML 1.0 Second Edition to specify.
Sean: Example 5 is incomplete.
Need to define the region to close in SDP.
Create Action Mike to provide examples for TTML 1.0 SE.
Create ACTION: Mike to provide examples for TTML 1.0 SE.
<scribe> ACTION: Mike to provide examples for TTML 1.0 SE. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-tt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Provide examples for TTML 1.0 SE. [on Mike Dolan - due 2012-10-11].
<scribe> ACTION: Monica update example 5 for SDP based on Issue-189 discussion on scrolling. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-tt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Update example 5 for SDP based on Issue-189 discussion on scrolling. [on Monica Martin - due 2012-10-11].
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- semantics of using profile in a document -- raised
mmartin3: Explains issue.
Mike suggested document conformance.
Sean: Both are specified in the profile.
Mike: Use of profile was related to document conformance.
Sean: TTML 1.0 allows profile on
... SDP-US is focused on document conformance and sufficiently constrain to deliver profile.
... CFF can be part decoder.
Mike: CFF model is about document
... Make a few revisions in TTML 1.0 SE to clarify that document conformance applies.
Resolve to make SDP-US a document conformance profile.
Mike: Will develop sentence to change TTML 1.0 SE.
Sean: How to capture CFF constraints if document authoring?
Mike: No changes needed in SDP-US.
Action Mike Proposal to close Issue-183 - identify revisions in TTML 1.0 SE.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Proposal to close Issue-183 - identify revisions in TTML 1.0 SE. [on Mike Dolan - due 2012-10-11].
<trackbot> ACTION-99 -- Monica Martin to soften text in Abstract regarding USG requirements. -- due 2012-09-20 -- OPEN
Need to close.
<trackbot> ACTION-99 Soften text in Abstract regarding USG requirements. closed
<trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- Clarify mandatory processing semantics referenced in Section 3.2.1. Consider whether to use Appendix D, Table E-2. -- pending review
Close Issue-177 by Action-96
<trackbot> ISSUE-177 Clarify mandatory processing semantics referenced in Section 3.2.1. Consider whether to use Appendix D, Table E-2. closed
<trackbot> ISSUE-185 -- confusion about processor versus player -- raised
<trackbot> ISSUE-185 confusion about processor versus player closed
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- R0006 is overly constraining as drafted -- raised
Sean: Agree, objections?
Action Glenn Update R0006 based on discussion in Issue-187 on Oct 4
<trackbot> Created ACTION-112 - Update R0006 based on discussion in Issue-187 on Oct 4 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-10-11].
Resolved to close Issue-187 based on new Action-112.
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 R0006 is overly constraining as drafted closed
pal: Describes issue.
... Doesn't set constraints of the document - characters, regions, drawing, etc.
... characters per second for example.
Sean: Explore document authoring
constraint - Mike.
... How does this relate?
pal: CFF has rendering model that
answers this question.
... Template can be used.
... Limit characters that author stream that the renderer has to process.
Sean: Synchronic document model - 2 points in time, document display to t1, t2. Differ by certain number characters?
Mike: Treats performance limitations for simplicity. Acts on each of sychronic document.
Sean: Characters per second doesn't make sense in synchronic documents.
mmartin3: CFF model targets specific use cases correct?
pal: No, SDP-US doesn't speak to these aspects?
Sean: Cast in TTML text, duration to render an instance.
pal: How much processing allocated to rendering? Character drawing is complicated. How many characters per second?
Sean: In captions, end of one
document and start of the second specifies what to do and how
to specify the stream.
... i.e. 4 seconds to draw.
pal: Put in SDP-US?
Sean: Create constraints that relate to synchronic document.
Mike: Recast in a different language is an issue.
Sean: They will be different because the 2 profiles are different.
pal: When CFF sets limits on drawing rate, what does the average of 120 characters mean?
Mike: Concerned about making them different.
pal: We seem to agree on
... Benefit with compatibility on use of CFF. 2 items to address.
Action Sean to recast the constraints for the SDP-US.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-113 - Recast the constraints for the SDP-US. [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-10-11].
<trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- do regions scroll their flowed content? -- raised
pal: Leave Issue-189 open on the scrolling.
Related to other actions.
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Background vs Window Color -- raised
mmartin3: Describes issue.
... Suggest a note.
Sean: Add an example too.
Mike: Wasn't initially clear to me.
Sean: TTML 1.0 describes this. Have to understand XSL.
Mike: This is a TTML issue.
Sean: Decide if put in Second
Edition or SDP-US.
Action Sean. Monica will help. Add a note and example on backgroundColor and windows. Respond back to Apple. Decide where to place the example. Relates to Issue-190.
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<trackbot> ACTION-107 -- Monica Martin to clarify references to named colors and align to TTML 1.0. -- due 2012-10-04 -- OPEN
mmartin3: Describes editor action.
<trackbot> ACTION-107 Clarify references to named colors and align to TTML 1.0. closed
Meeting Oct 11
Sean: mmartin3 and plh will host.
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