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NOTE: this may be better autogenerated - Robin Berjon 14:21:55 gitbot has left #html-wg 14:35:55 gitbot has joined #html-wg 14:35:55 [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/26bc1ea65296...a5b4393c9e63 14:35:55 [html/heartbeat-201210] need different copy operation for single file - Robin Berjon 14:35:58 [html/heartbeat-201210] new generation; all fixes included - Robin Berjon 14:35:59 gitbot has left #html-wg 15:01:24 gitbot has joined #html-wg 15:01:24 [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/a5b4393c9e63...fade20c05973 15:01:24 [html/heartbeat-201210] new errors; fix to the boilerplate code; exclusions to speed up checker - Robin Berjon 15:01:27 [html/heartbeat-201210] fix linking to index - Robin Berjon 15:01:29 gitbot has left #html-wg 15:08:06 gavin has joined #html-wg 15:13:34 Stevef has joined #html-wg 15:13:59 tantek has joined #html-wg 15:14:09 tinkster has joined #html-wg 15:15:38 shepazu has joined #html-wg 15:23:52 jaymunro has joined #html-wg 15:33:36 gitbot has joined #html-wg 15:33:36 [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/ee2aa422b1957ba740d7856ffeec879640023658 15:33:36 [html/heartbeat-201210] proper exclusions; replace entities BP correctly; handle index.html cleanly - Robin Berjon 15:33:38 gitbot has left #html-wg 15:41:47 rubys has joined #html-wg 15:59:00 krisk has joined #html-wg 15:59:07 trackbot, start meeting 15:59:09 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:59:11 Zakim, this will be html_wg 15:59:11 ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute 15:59:12 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference 15:59:12 Date: 04 October 2012 15:59:32 HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started 15:59:39 +Sam 16:00:26 +[Microsoft] 16:00:30 Eliot_ has joined #html-wg 16:00:38 MFoladare has joined #html-wg 16:00:42 +[Microsoft.a] 16:00:47 +Plh 16:00:52 cabanier has joined #html-wg 16:00:53 Zakim, microsoft.a has me 16:00:53 +Eliot_; got it 16:01:03 janina has joined #html-wg 16:01:04 + +1.626.379.aaaa 16:01:05 +cabanier 16:01:05 + +1.425.869.aabb 16:01:06 +[Apple] 16:01:10 Zakim, Apple is me 16:01:10 +hober; got it 16:01:13 +Radhika_Roy 16:01:21 +??P24 16:01:28 zakim, ??P24 is Janina 16:01:28 +Janina; got it 16:01:32 Zakim, Microsoft is krisk 16:01:32 +krisk; got it 16:01:36 gitbot has joined #html-wg 16:01:36 [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/ee2aa422b195...191356c53970 16:01:36 [html/heartbeat-201210] support author spec generation - Robin Berjon 16:01:36 +Cynthia_Shelly 16:01:37 zakim, microsoft.aa has me 16:01:37 [html/heartbeat-201210] link to fonts - Robin Berjon 16:01:37 sorry, jaymunro, I do not recognize a party named 'microsoft.aa' 16:01:40 gitbot has left #html-wg 16:02:00 zakim, microsoft has me 16:02:00 sorry, jaymunro, I do not recognize a party named 'microsoft' 16:02:06 zakim, Microsoft has me 16:02:06 sorry, jaymunro, I do not recognize a party named 'Microsoft' 16:02:07 Barbara has joined #html-wg 16:02:46 Zakim, Microsoft.a has me 16:02:53 +jaymunro; got it 16:03:04 Judy has joined #html-wg 16:03:10 Zakim, [Microsoft.a] holds jaymunro 16:03:10 jaymunro was already listed in [Microsoft.a], darobin 16:03:17 MichaelC has joined #html-wg 16:03:19 +Barbara 16:03:53 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012OctDec/0000.html 16:03:54 +[Microsoft] 16:03:55 +Judy 16:03:58 I can scribe 16:04:11 +??P35 16:04:23 #1. ACTION items due by Thursday, October 4 16:04:35 one action item 16:04:36 ACTION-222: Create a preference poll for the appcache mailing list 16:04:37 ACTION-222 Create a preference poll for the appcache mailing list notes added 16:04:42 paulc has joined #html-wg 16:05:04 Need to sync back with Maciej - he has been busy with the 2014 plan 16:05:07 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/222 16:05:22 next up Task Force Reports 16:05:32 Testing Testing Task Force 16:05:54 We met as planned last week 16:05:58 Notes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Oct/0000.html 16:06:56 Need to have a place for html.next tests, need has arisen see bug #15042 16:07:11 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15042 16:07:18 We approved 256 Audio/Video tests that were submitted by Intel 16:07:41 We now have 11,898 approved tests 16:08:26 We should discuss at TPAC what type of implementation report is needed to enter CR 16:08:53 any questions? 16:09:09 Next, Accessibility Task Force 16:10:01 A small number of questions about 2014 and how this relates to the Accessibility Task Force 16:10:29 Still not settled on section 7.1 hidden in the html spec 16:11:00 How this related to the ARIA spec and intersects with HTML 16:11:26 q+ 16:11:30 Just had a good meeting, which the task force can close on this in a week 16:11:32 MartinSoukup has joined #html-wg 16:11:42 ack paul 16:11:57 I want to check with people 16:12:05 + +1.613.287.aacc 16:12:15 zakim, aacc is me 16:12:15 +MartinSoukup; got it 16:12:17 I want ot double check that the 204 issue will not block the heartbeat docs 16:12:46 will this block the heartbeat docs or not? 16:14:03 Should be 'ok' presuming that what is their what we expect 16:14:22 a version after when the objetion was raised would be OK 16:14:45 I'll send and email to make sure we are all in agreement and we don't get surprised with an objection 16:15:02 ...when we ask for consensus for the docs 16:15:16 Next Media Task Force Update 16:15:40 To main points 16:15:50 A) Bug counts are flat 16:16:04 B) Both groups want to meet at the TPAC F2F meeting 16:16:32 Does anyone else want to add to this update? 16:16:36 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Sep/0238.html 16:16:43 Next 3. Other Business 16:16:59 rates go up on Oct 16th - 12 days! 16:17:09 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Sep/0238.html 16:17:41 Let's create a wiki for F2F discussion topics 16:17:57 I know of one other cross group meeting 16:18:11 ddorwin has joined #html-wg 16:18:14 No action needed, look for this on the list 16:18:20 Next up is Plan 2014 16:18:21 http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/html5-2014-plan.html 16:18:26 Plan 2014 - Getting HTML to Recommendation in 2014 - Revised 16:18:33 http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/html5-2014-plan.html 16:18:57 The task force may also create specifications that extend deliverables of the HTML Working Group, in the area of accessibility. 16:18:57 The Accessibility Task Force will have decision authority over the contents of such extension specifications. 16:18:57 Any such specifications will be considered jointly produced by the HTML Working Group and PFWG, for purposes of W3C Publication. This means that, as with any w3c joint task force deliverable, both Working Groups must approve transitions such as First Public Working Draft or Last Call. 16:18:57 It also means that documents will create Patent Policy obligations in both groups. Members of either Working Group who have technical comments or objections on Task Force publications are expected to raise them in the context of the Task Force. 16:20:00 Any questions or comments on this propsed addition? 16:20:53 No objections or comments from the group 16:20:56 erikadoyle has joined #html-wg 16:21:14 no other comments on the 2014 Plan 16:21:25 Next - scribe for next meeting? 16:21:38 Nick will scribe the next meeting, thx! 16:21:42 s/Nick/Rick/ 16:21:48 s/Rick/Rik/ 16:22:09 -cabanier 16:22:10 -Sam 16:22:10 -Michael_Cooper 16:22:11 -MartinSoukup 16:22:11 -hober 16:22:12 -Radhika_Roy 16:22:12 -Cynthia_Shelly 16:22:14 - +1.425.869.aabb 16:22:14 janina has left #html-wg 16:22:15 -Janina 16:22:17 Adjournment 16:22:18 -Judy 16:22:19 - +1.626.379.aaaa 16:22:22 -Barbara 16:22:30 -Plh 16:22:38 RRSAgent, make logs public 16:22:47 rrsagent, generate minutes 16:22:47 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-html-wg-minutes.html krisk 16:24:17 -[Microsoft.a] 16:25:47 MichaelC has left #html-wg 16:25:49 Judy has left #html-wg 16:27:31 -[Microsoft] 16:32:10 gitbot has joined #html-wg 16:32:10 [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/a31fe518bb28c04db65bcc8253e16342098bd106 16:32:10 [html/heartbeat-201210] start work on pubrules checker - Robin Berjon 16:32:12 gitbot has left #html-wg 16:34:26 -krisk 16:34:27 HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended 16:34:27 Attendees were Sam, Plh, Eliot_, +1.626.379.aaaa, cabanier, +1.425.869.aabb, hober, Radhika_Roy, Janina, krisk, Cynthia_Shelly, jaymunro, Barbara, [Microsoft], Judy, 16:34:27 ... 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