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13:26:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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13:26:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
13:26:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
13:26:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
13:26:25 <trackbot> Date: 03 October 2012
13:26:30 <Luz> Luz has joined #rd
13:26:51 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012Oct/0002.html
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13:28:19 <shadi> Chair: Harper_Simon
13:28:19 <shadi> Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)
13:28:19 <shadi> Agenda+ Metrics W3C Note Status (5m)
13:28:19 <shadi> Agenda+ Next Topic Discussions (10m)
13:28:19 <shadi> Agenda+ CfP Simplified Format http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/CfP_Email_Boilerplate (15m)
13:28:20 <shadi> Agenda+ Alternative Conference Publishing Venues http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Alternative_Conference_Publishing_Venues
13:28:23 <shadi> (15m)
13:28:25 <shadi> Agenda+ Issues and Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/
13:28:28 <shadi> Agenda+ Any Other Business
13:29:10 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:29:10 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has not yet started, shadi
13:29:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see Klaus, shawn, Luz, Zakim, RRSAgent, annika, shadi, nonge_, Mate, trackbot
13:30:19 <christos> christos has joined #rd
13:31:35 <shawn> zakim, this is RDWG
13:31:35 <Zakim> ok, shawn; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
13:31:44 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:31:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P15, [IPcaller], ??P25, ??P20, Shawn
13:32:05 <sharper> sharper has joined #rd
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13:32:15 <sharper> trackbot, start meeting
13:32:16 <sharper> zakim, please clear the agenda
13:32:16 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:32:17 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
13:32:19 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
13:32:20 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
13:32:20 <trackbot> Date: 03 October 2012
13:32:21 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
13:32:27 <sharper> Chair: Harper_Simon
13:32:27 <sharper> Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
13:32:28 <sharper> Agenda+ Metrics W3C Note Status (5m)  [shadi]
13:32:28 <sharper> Agenda+ Next Topic Discussions (10m) [all]
13:32:28 <sharper> Agenda+ CfP Simplified Format http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/CfP_Email_Boilerplate (15m) [peter/sharper]
13:32:28 <sharper> Agenda+ Alternative Conference Publishing Venues http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Alternative_Conference_Publishing_Venues (15m) [all]
13:32:31 <sharper> Agenda+ Issues and Actions (Standing Item): https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/ [sharper]
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13:32:33 <sharper> Agenda+ Any Other Business (Standing Item) [sharper] 
13:32:35 <sharper> zakim, save agenda
13:32:40 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:32:41 <Zakim> ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-agenda.rdf
13:32:42 <sharper> rrsagent, make logs public
13:32:42 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:32:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-minutes.html sharper
13:32:43 <Zakim> I notice WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has restarted
13:32:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P15, [IPcaller], ??P25, ??P20, Shawn
13:32:47 <Zakim> -??P20
13:32:51 <sharper> zakim, take up item 1
13:32:51 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
13:32:53 <Zakim> -??P25
13:33:04 <Luz> zakim, [ipcaller] is Luz
13:33:04 <Zakim> +Luz; got it
13:33:06 <sharper> regrets: Yeliz, Giorgio, Markel, Yehya, Peter
13:33:18 <Zakim> +??P20
13:33:19 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:33:20 <Zakim> + +1.609.734.aaaa
13:33:24 <Zakim> +??P28
13:33:37 <christos> zakim, ??P28 is me
13:33:37 <Zakim> +christos; got it
13:33:56 <annika> zakim, ??P20 is me
13:33:56 <Zakim> +annika; got it
13:34:06 <Klaus> zakim, ??P15  is me
13:34:06 <Zakim> +Klaus; got it
13:34:30 <shawn> zakim, aaaa is MarkHakkinen
13:34:30 <Zakim> +MarkHakkinen; got it
13:34:36 <Zakim> +??P29
13:34:43 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:34:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Klaus, Luz, Shawn, annika, [IPcaller], MarkHakkinen, christos, ??P29
13:34:45 <sharper> zakim, ??P29 is sharper
13:34:45 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
13:34:47 <annika> hi everyone, I'm on the call but my mic is broken.
13:35:04 <Silvia> it's me!
13:35:16 <christos> zakim, mute me
13:35:16 <Zakim> christos should now be muted
13:35:28 <shawn> zakim, [IPcaller] is Silvia
13:35:28 <Zakim> +Silvia; got it
13:36:00 <shadi> present+ Shadi (via IRC)
13:36:10 <Silvia> zakim, mute me
13:36:10 <Zakim> Silvia should now be muted
13:36:56 <Luz> I can try
13:37:03 <Klaus> zakim, mute me
13:37:03 <Zakim> Klaus should now be muted
13:37:20 <Luz> I never did before.
13:37:22 <Luz> so
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13:38:03 <Luz> scribe/Luz
13:38:08 <Luz> scribe: Luz
13:38:24 <sharper> zakim, close item 1
13:38:24 <Zakim> agendum 1, Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments), closed
13:38:24 <sharper> zakim, take up item 2
13:38:25 <Luz> scribe:Luz
13:38:27 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
13:38:27 <Zakim> 2. Metrics W3C Note Status (5m)  [from shadi via sharper]
13:38:27 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Metrics W3C Note Status (5m) " taken up [from shadi via sharper]
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13:39:21 <shadi> [[please continue to remind people to review the Metrics Report]]
13:39:23 <Zakim> +??P30
13:39:54 <Luz> Shawn: The deadline for comments to the Metrics W3C Note was extended till the 5th October.
13:39:56 <shadi> [[3 commenters so far http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd-comments/]]
13:39:57 <Kerstin> Zakim, +??P30 is me
13:39:57 <Zakim> sorry, Kerstin, I do not recognize a party named '+??P30'
13:40:39 <Kerstin> Zakim, ??P30 is me
13:40:39 <Zakim> +Kerstin; got it
13:40:43 <Luz> Zakim, take up next
13:40:43 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Next Topic Discussions (10m)" taken up [from all]
13:40:44 <Kerstin> ;) thx
13:41:17 <shawn> s/The deadline for comments to the Metrics W3C Note was extended till the 5th October./The deadline for comments to the Metrics W3C Note was extended till the 5th October. Everyone please contact people who might be interested and ask them to comment by Friday./
13:42:26 <Luz> Sharper: New topics are welcome to discuss for next topic for the next agenda.
13:42:34 <shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/User_modelling
13:43:51 <Luz> Zakim, take up next
13:43:53 <Zakim> agendum 4. "CfP Simplified Format http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/CfP_Email_Boilerplate (15m)" taken up [from peter/sharper]
13:44:01 <Luz> Zakim, take up next
13:44:01 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, Luz
13:44:14 <shawn> zakim, close item 4
13:44:14 <Zakim> agendum 4, CfP Simplified Format http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/CfP_Email_Boilerplate (15m), closed
13:44:16 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
13:44:16 <Zakim> 5. Alternative Conference Publishing Venues http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Alternative_Conference_Publishing_Venues (15m) [from all via sharper]
13:44:24 <Luz> Zakim, take up next
13:44:24 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Alternative Conference Publishing Venues http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Alternative_Conference_Publishing_Venues (15m)" taken up [from all]
13:44:50 <shawn> q+
13:44:57 <shawn> ack me
13:44:58 <sharper> ack s
13:46:55 <Luz> Simon: There is in the wiki a  topic to collect information about the alternative conference publishing,
13:48:41 <Luz> Simon: Alternative conference publishing need to be decided/discussed.
13:48:57 <Luz> Zakim, take up next
13:48:58 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Issues and Actions (Standing Item): https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/" taken up [from sharper]
13:49:12 <shawn> zakim, close item 6
13:49:12 <Zakim> agendum 6, Issues and Actions (Standing Item): https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/, closed
13:49:14 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
13:49:14 <Zakim> 7. Any Other Business (Standing Item) [from sharper]
13:49:22 <shawn> zakim, take up next
13:49:22 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Any Other Business (Standing Item)" taken up [from sharper]
13:49:25 <shawn> ack me
13:50:22 <Luz> Shawn: Tc4r: 12 submissions but good reviews so far.
13:51:19 <Luz> I did nou fully understand the porcedure you proposed
13:51:27 <Klaus> queue+
13:51:27 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:51:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see Klaus (muted), Luz, Shawn, annika, Silvia (muted), MarkHakkinen, christos (muted), sharper, Kerstin
13:52:18 <Luz> I got it, thankyou.
13:52:30 <Klaus> zakim, unmute me
13:52:30 <Zakim> Klaus should no longer be muted
13:52:32 <Luz> I find it a good idea.
13:53:25 <annika> q+ to ask: How many papers will be in the symposium?
13:53:25 <shawn> q+ to ask about additinoal input
13:53:31 <shawn> ack k
13:53:43 <Klaus> zakim, mute me
13:53:43 <Zakim> Klaus should now be muted
13:53:47 <shawn> ack a
13:53:47 <Zakim> annika, you wanted to ask: How many papers will be in the symposium?
13:53:49 <sharper> ack an
13:53:58 <annika> sorry my mic is broken
13:54:21 <Luz> Shawn: For the Tc4R papers close to rejection/aceptance we will send revisions to the authors to change.
13:54:28 <Kerstin> Zakim, mute me
13:54:28 <Zakim> Kerstin should now be muted
13:54:36 <annika> ok
13:55:09 <Luz> Klaus: Further details/recommendations shall be send to the authors for the camara ready version. 
13:56:56 <Klaus> We will screen e2r papers on the 10th-12th and see if we should move!
13:57:49 <Luz> Shawn: Some papers might me moved from the symposia (Tc4r and e4r). Ther emight be papers related to each other among the two symposia.
13:58:24 <annika> annika: agree with shawn. We should invite people when they register for the symposim.
13:59:36 <shawn> topic: Mobile
14:00:41 <Luz> Simon: New topics: Moblie topic and accessiblity and "Row?" Map.
14:01:00 <shawn> s/ "Row?" Map./ RoadMap
14:01:05 <Luz> Thank you.
14:02:17 <annika> annika: was there a decision on other options for conference calls systms?
14:02:22 <shawn> Reminder to all: Forward to specific people interested in evaluation http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012Sep/0033.html
14:02:48 <Luz> Simon: Add/suggest/discuss in the wiki alternative places to publish
14:02:59 <annika> ok
14:03:09 <Luz> I know
14:03:20 <Luz> Google hand out? Yes.
14:03:30 <Luz> 9
14:03:41 <Kerstin> Other question: Is it planned to invite reviewers from the TC smyposium to the next telco?
14:03:47 <Luz> At least some months ago.
14:03:52 <Luz> I can double chekc.
14:04:02 <shawn> Shawn: Shadi looking at other conference call options. if have any input, please let him know. Plan to try it out in the coming weeks
14:05:24 <annika> annika suggest to have separate calls for the reviewers and not mix it with the weekly telecon.
14:06:00 <Luz> Yes, Google Handout has a maximum of 9 persons to share the conversation with (10 persons in total).
14:06:18 <annika> s/annika suggest/annika suggests/
14:07:00 <Luz> Shawn: shall we invited more people than the PC and the chairs for the paper decisions?
14:07:52 <Kerstin> ok. thank you for this useful info.
14:09:02 <christos> goodbye...
14:09:04 <Klaus> bye
14:09:04 <annika> cu, good bye
14:09:05 <Silvia> ok, bye!
14:09:06 <Zakim> -MarkHakkinen
14:09:07 <Kerstin> bye
14:09:10 <Zakim> -Shawn
14:09:11 <Zakim> -christos
14:09:13 <Zakim> -sharper
14:09:14 <Zakim> -annika
14:09:14 <Zakim> -Klaus
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14:09:26 <shawn> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:09:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-minutes.html shawn
14:09:43 <Zakim> -Silvia
14:10:45 <Zakim> -Luz
14:10:59 <shawn> Present+ Klaus, Luz, Shawn, Annika, Silvia, MarkHakkinen, Christos, Simon Harper, Kerstin
14:11:02 <shawn> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:11:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-minutes.html shawn
14:17:37 <annika> annika has left #rd
14:35:00 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Kerstin, in WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
14:35:01 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
14:35:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Shawn, Luz, +1.609.734.aaaa, christos, annika, Klaus, MarkHakkinen, sharper, Silvia, Kerstin