IRC log of rd on 2012-10-03

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13:26:20 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7394
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 03 October 2012
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13:26:51 [shadi]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012Oct/0002.html
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Chair: Harper_Simon
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Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)
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Agenda+ Metrics W3C Note Status (5m)
13:28:19 [shadi]
Agenda+ Next Topic Discussions (10m)
13:28:19 [shadi]
Agenda+ CfP Simplified Format http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/CfP_Email_Boilerplate (15m)
13:28:20 [shadi]
Agenda+ Alternative Conference Publishing Venues http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Alternative_Conference_Publishing_Venues
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(15m)
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Agenda+ Issues and Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/
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Agenda+ Any Other Business
13:29:10 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:29:10 [Zakim]
WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has not yet started, shadi
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On IRC I see Klaus, shawn, Luz, Zakim, RRSAgent, annika, shadi, nonge_, Mate, trackbot
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13:31:35 [shawn]
zakim, this is RDWG
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ok, shawn; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
13:31:44 [shawn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:31:44 [Zakim]
On the phone I see ??P15, [IPcaller], ??P25, ??P20, Shawn
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trackbot, start meeting
13:32:16 [sharper]
zakim, please clear the agenda
13:32:16 [Zakim]
agenda cleared
13:32:17 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs world
13:32:19 [trackbot]
Zakim, this will be 7394
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Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 03 October 2012
13:32:21 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
13:32:27 [sharper]
Chair: Harper_Simon
13:32:27 [sharper]
Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
13:32:28 [sharper]
Agenda+ Metrics W3C Note Status (5m) [shadi]
13:32:28 [sharper]
Agenda+ Next Topic Discussions (10m) [all]
13:32:28 [sharper]
Agenda+ CfP Simplified Format http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/CfP_Email_Boilerplate (15m) [peter/sharper]
13:32:28 [sharper]
Agenda+ Alternative Conference Publishing Venues http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Alternative_Conference_Publishing_Venues (15m) [all]
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Agenda+ Issues and Actions (Standing Item): https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/ [sharper]
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13:32:33 [sharper]
Agenda+ Any Other Business (Standing Item) [sharper]
13:32:35 [sharper]
zakim, save agenda
13:32:40 [shawn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:32:41 [Zakim]
ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-agenda.rdf
13:32:42 [sharper]
rrsagent, make logs public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-minutes.html sharper
13:32:43 [Zakim]
I notice WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has restarted
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On the phone I see ??P15, [IPcaller], ??P25, ??P20, Shawn
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-??P20
13:32:51 [sharper]
zakim, take up item 1
13:32:51 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
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-??P25
13:33:04 [Luz]
zakim, [ipcaller] is Luz
13:33:04 [Zakim]
+Luz; got it
13:33:06 [sharper]
regrets: Yeliz, Giorgio, Markel, Yehya, Peter
13:33:18 [Zakim]
+??P20
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+[IPcaller]
13:33:20 [Zakim]
+ +1.609.734.aaaa
13:33:24 [Zakim]
+??P28
13:33:37 [christos]
zakim, ??P28 is me
13:33:37 [Zakim]
+christos; got it
13:33:56 [annika]
zakim, ??P20 is me
13:33:56 [Zakim]
+annika; got it
13:34:06 [Klaus]
zakim, ??P15 is me
13:34:06 [Zakim]
+Klaus; got it
13:34:30 [shawn]
zakim, aaaa is MarkHakkinen
13:34:30 [Zakim]
+MarkHakkinen; got it
13:34:36 [Zakim]
+??P29
13:34:43 [shawn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:34:43 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Klaus, Luz, Shawn, annika, [IPcaller], MarkHakkinen, christos, ??P29
13:34:45 [sharper]
zakim, ??P29 is sharper
13:34:45 [Zakim]
+sharper; got it
13:34:47 [annika]
hi everyone, I'm on the call but my mic is broken.
13:35:04 [Silvia]
it's me!
13:35:16 [christos]
zakim, mute me
13:35:16 [Zakim]
christos should now be muted
13:35:28 [shawn]
zakim, [IPcaller] is Silvia
13:35:28 [Zakim]
+Silvia; got it
13:36:00 [shadi]
present+ Shadi (via IRC)
13:36:10 [Silvia]
zakim, mute me
13:36:10 [Zakim]
Silvia should now be muted
13:36:56 [Luz]
I can try
13:37:03 [Klaus]
zakim, mute me
13:37:03 [Zakim]
Klaus should now be muted
13:37:20 [Luz]
I never did before.
13:37:22 [Luz]
so
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scribe/Luz
13:38:08 [Luz]
scribe: Luz
13:38:24 [sharper]
zakim, close item 1
13:38:24 [Zakim]
agendum 1, Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments), closed
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zakim, take up item 2
13:38:25 [Luz]
scribe:Luz
13:38:27 [Zakim]
I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
13:38:27 [Zakim]
2. Metrics W3C Note Status (5m) [from shadi via sharper]
13:38:27 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Metrics W3C Note Status (5m) " taken up [from shadi via sharper]
13:39:09 [Kerstin]
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13:39:21 [shadi]
[[please continue to remind people to review the Metrics Report]]
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+??P30
13:39:54 [Luz]
Shawn: The deadline for comments to the Metrics W3C Note was extended till the 5th October.
13:39:56 [shadi]
[[3 commenters so far http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd-comments/]]
13:39:57 [Kerstin]
Zakim, +??P30 is me
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sorry, Kerstin, I do not recognize a party named '+??P30'
13:40:39 [Kerstin]
Zakim, ??P30 is me
13:40:39 [Zakim]
+Kerstin; got it
13:40:43 [Luz]
Zakim, take up next
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agendum 3. "Next Topic Discussions (10m)" taken up [from all]
13:40:44 [Kerstin]
;) thx
13:41:17 [shawn]
s/The deadline for comments to the Metrics W3C Note was extended till the 5th October./The deadline for comments to the Metrics W3C Note was extended till the 5th October. Everyone please contact people who might be interested and ask them to comment by Friday./
13:42:26 [Luz]
Sharper: New topics are welcome to discuss for next topic for the next agenda.
13:42:34 [shawn]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/User_modelling
13:43:51 [Luz]
Zakim, take up next
13:43:53 [Zakim]
agendum 4. "CfP Simplified Format http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/CfP_Email_Boilerplate (15m)" taken up [from peter/sharper]
13:44:01 [Luz]
Zakim, take up next
13:44:01 [Zakim]
agendum 4 was just opened, Luz
13:44:14 [shawn]
zakim, close item 4
13:44:14 [Zakim]
agendum 4, CfP Simplified Format http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/CfP_Email_Boilerplate (15m), closed
13:44:16 [Zakim]
I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
13:44:16 [Zakim]
5. Alternative Conference Publishing Venues http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Alternative_Conference_Publishing_Venues (15m) [from all via sharper]
13:44:24 [Luz]
Zakim, take up next
13:44:24 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "Alternative Conference Publishing Venues http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Alternative_Conference_Publishing_Venues (15m)" taken up [from all]
13:44:50 [shawn]
q+
13:44:57 [shawn]
ack me
13:44:58 [sharper]
ack s
13:46:55 [Luz]
Simon: There is in the wiki a topic to collect information about the alternative conference publishing,
13:48:41 [Luz]
Simon: Alternative conference publishing need to be decided/discussed.
13:48:57 [Luz]
Zakim, take up next
13:48:58 [Zakim]
agendum 6. "Issues and Actions (Standing Item): https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/" taken up [from sharper]
13:49:12 [shawn]
zakim, close item 6
13:49:12 [Zakim]
agendum 6, Issues and Actions (Standing Item): https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/, closed
13:49:14 [Zakim]
I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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7. Any Other Business (Standing Item) [from sharper]
13:49:22 [shawn]
zakim, take up next
13:49:22 [Zakim]
agendum 7. "Any Other Business (Standing Item)" taken up [from sharper]
13:49:25 [shawn]
ack me
13:50:22 [Luz]
Shawn: Tc4r: 12 submissions but good reviews so far.
13:51:19 [Luz]
I did nou fully understand the porcedure you proposed
13:51:27 [Klaus]
queue+
13:51:27 [shawn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:51:28 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Klaus (muted), Luz, Shawn, annika, Silvia (muted), MarkHakkinen, christos (muted), sharper, Kerstin
13:52:18 [Luz]
I got it, thankyou.
13:52:30 [Klaus]
zakim, unmute me
13:52:30 [Zakim]
Klaus should no longer be muted
13:52:32 [Luz]
I find it a good idea.
13:53:25 [annika]
q+ to ask: How many papers will be in the symposium?
13:53:25 [shawn]
q+ to ask about additinoal input
13:53:31 [shawn]
ack k
13:53:43 [Klaus]
zakim, mute me
13:53:43 [Zakim]
Klaus should now be muted
13:53:47 [shawn]
ack a
13:53:47 [Zakim]
annika, you wanted to ask: How many papers will be in the symposium?
13:53:49 [sharper]
ack an
13:53:58 [annika]
sorry my mic is broken
13:54:21 [Luz]
Shawn: For the Tc4R papers close to rejection/aceptance we will send revisions to the authors to change.
13:54:28 [Kerstin]
Zakim, mute me
13:54:28 [Zakim]
Kerstin should now be muted
13:54:36 [annika]
ok
13:55:09 [Luz]
Klaus: Further details/recommendations shall be send to the authors for the camara ready version.
13:56:56 [Klaus]
We will screen e2r papers on the 10th-12th and see if we should move!
13:57:49 [Luz]
Shawn: Some papers might me moved from the symposia (Tc4r and e4r). Ther emight be papers related to each other among the two symposia.
13:58:24 [annika]
annika: agree with shawn. We should invite people when they register for the symposim.
13:59:36 [shawn]
topic: Mobile
14:00:41 [Luz]
Simon: New topics: Moblie topic and accessiblity and "Row?" Map.
14:01:00 [shawn]
s/ "Row?" Map./ RoadMap
14:01:05 [Luz]
Thank you.
14:02:17 [annika]
annika: was there a decision on other options for conference calls systms?
14:02:22 [shawn]
Reminder to all: Forward to specific people interested in evaluation http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2012Sep/0033.html
14:02:48 [Luz]
Simon: Add/suggest/discuss in the wiki alternative places to publish
14:02:59 [annika]
ok
14:03:09 [Luz]
I know
14:03:20 [Luz]
Google hand out? Yes.
14:03:30 [Luz]
9
14:03:41 [Kerstin]
Other question: Is it planned to invite reviewers from the TC smyposium to the next telco?
14:03:47 [Luz]
At least some months ago.
14:03:52 [Luz]
I can double chekc.
14:04:02 [shawn]
Shawn: Shadi looking at other conference call options. if have any input, please let him know. Plan to try it out in the coming weeks
14:05:24 [annika]
annika suggest to have separate calls for the reviewers and not mix it with the weekly telecon.
14:06:00 [Luz]
Yes, Google Handout has a maximum of 9 persons to share the conversation with (10 persons in total).
14:06:18 [annika]
s/annika suggest/annika suggests/
14:07:00 [Luz]
Shawn: shall we invited more people than the PC and the chairs for the paper decisions?
14:07:52 [Kerstin]
ok. thank you for this useful info.
14:09:02 [christos]
goodbye...
14:09:04 [Klaus]
bye
14:09:04 [annika]
cu, good bye
14:09:05 [Silvia]
ok, bye!
14:09:06 [Zakim]
-MarkHakkinen
14:09:07 [Kerstin]
bye
14:09:10 [Zakim]
-Shawn
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-christos
14:09:13 [Zakim]
-sharper
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-annika
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-Klaus
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14:09:26 [shawn]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-minutes.html shawn
14:09:43 [Zakim]
-Silvia
14:10:45 [Zakim]
-Luz
14:10:59 [shawn]
Present+ Klaus, Luz, Shawn, Annika, Silvia, MarkHakkinen, Christos, Simon Harper, Kerstin
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/03-rd-minutes.html shawn
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14:35:00 [Zakim]
disconnecting the lone participant, Kerstin, in WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
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WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
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Attendees were Shawn, Luz, +1.609.734.aaaa, christos, annika, Klaus, MarkHakkinen, sharper, Silvia, Kerstin