IRC log of wai-wcag on 2012-09-27

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started
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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 27 September 2012
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+David_MacDonald
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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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+??P9
20:03:00 [MichaelC]
zakim, Microsoft is Cherie_Eckholm
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+Cherie_Eckholm; got it
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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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scribe is akirkpat2
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scribe: AWK
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help?
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Topic: 1. LC-2585 : Known failures should include setting main page container overflow to hidden preventing scrollbars
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s/help?//
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q+
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RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended to reflect Loretta's wording
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ack me
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TOPIC: LC-2624 : H69 is not a sufficient technique for SC 2.4.1
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The User Agent Notes for H69 discuss the native support for navigating by headings that is provided in Opera, and notes that for at least some other free browsers, plugins are available
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RESOLUTION: Accepted adding the note to the end of the sufficient and advisory note section as described in 2624.
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TOPIC: LC-2627: quote should be removed from test in H49, semantics of elements depending on doctype
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RESOLUTION: Accepted by unanimous consent
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TOPIC: LC-2629 : title attributes on images - SC 1.1
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RESOLUTION: Accepted by Unanimous Consent
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TOPIC: LC-2633 : resize text versus zoom
20:37:09 [Loretta]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/F69.html
20:37:48 [greggvanderheiden]
We understand that the test needs work. Please see the note that is already in the current version:
20:37:49 [greggvanderheiden]
Note: The Working Group has discovered many misunderstandings about how to test this failure. We are planning to revise this failure in a future update. Until then, if the content passes the success criterion using any of the listed sufficient techniques, then it does not meet this failure.
20:37:50 [greggvanderheiden]
Note also that any of the sufficient techniques listed would alone be sufficient to satisfy SC 1.4.4 (Resize text).
20:37:51 [greggvanderheiden]
In your example, if the browser-supplied page zoom works for resizing text to 200% without clipping, truncation or obscuring, the success criterion would be met.
20:38:26 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
20:38:58 [greggvanderheiden]
So any of the sufficient techniques listed would alone be sufficient to satisfy SC 1.4.4 (Resize text).
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+Bruce_Bailey
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RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended in the tracker
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TOPIC: LC-2647: Test does not require check whether user-entered data is re-displayed
20:40:48 [Loretta]
Check that other data previously entered by the user is re-displayed, unless the field must be reset for security reasons.
20:43:47 [greggvanderheiden]
(3) Check that other data previously entered by the user is re-displayed, unless the data is in a security related field.
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(3) Check that other data previously entered by the user is re-displayed, unless the data is in a security related field where it would be inappropriate to retain the data for representation (e.g. password).
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(3) Check that other data previously entered by the user is re-displayed, unless the data is in a security related field where it would be inappropriate to retain the data for re-display (e.g. password).
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RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended in the tracker.
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TOPIC: LC-2648: Test does not require check whether user-entered data is re-displayed
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RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended in the tracker.
20:48:41 [MichaelC]
regrets: Kathy_Wahlbin, Moe_Kraft, Alex_Li
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012JulSep/0100.html
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chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
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-Bruce_Bailey
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i haven't failed, i've found 10,000 ways that don't work
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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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-Cherie_Eckholm
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-David_MacDonald
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-Gregg_Vanderheiden
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-MIchael_Cooper
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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-Robin_Tuttle
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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, David_MacDonald, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, MIchael_Cooper, Cherie_Eckholm, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Robin_Tuttle
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