20:01:42 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:42 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/27-wai-wcag-irc 20:01:44 RRSAgent, make logs public 20:01:44 Zakim has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:46 Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 20:01:46 ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started 20:01:47 Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 20:01:47 Date: 27 September 2012 20:02:02 +David_MacDonald 20:02:06 +Andrew_Kirkpatrick 20:02:17 +??P9 20:03:00 zakim, Microsoft is Cherie_Eckholm 20:03:00 +Cherie_Eckholm; got it 20:03:49 David has joined #wai-wcag 20:06:57 Loretta has joined #WAI-WCAG 20:07:14 AWK has joined #wai-wcag 20:07:27 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:07:44 scribe is akirkpat2 20:08:12 scribe: AWK 20:08:31 help? 20:08:41 Topic: 1. LC-2585 : Known failures should include setting main page container overflow to hidden preventing scrollbars 20:08:41 robin has joined #wai-wcag 20:08:53 +Robin_Tuttle 20:08:56 s/help?// 20:09:40 q+ 20:11:41 RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended to reflect Loretta's wording 20:11:48 ack me 20:12:19 TOPIC: LC-2624 : H69 is not a sufficient technique for SC 2.4.1 20:19:22 The User Agent Notes for H69 discuss the native support for navigating by headings that is provided in Opera, and notes that for at least some other free browsers, plugins are available 20:24:39 RESOLUTION: Accepted adding the note to the end of the sufficient and advisory note section as described in 2624. 20:25:09 TOPIC: LC-2627: quote should be removed from test in H49, semantics of elements depending on doctype 20:27:51 RESOLUTION: Accepted by unanimous consent 20:28:01 TOPIC: LC-2629 : title attributes on images - SC 1.1 20:28:14 RESOLUTION: Accepted by Unanimous Consent 20:29:00 TOPIC: LC-2633 : resize text versus zoom 20:37:09 http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/F69.html 20:37:48 We understand that the test needs work. Please see the note that is already in the current version: 20:37:49 Note: The Working Group has discovered many misunderstandings about how to test this failure. We are planning to revise this failure in a future update. Until then, if the content passes the success criterion using any of the listed sufficient techniques, then it does not meet this failure. 20:37:50 Note also that any of the sufficient techniques listed would alone be sufficient to satisfy SC 1.4.4 (Resize text). 20:37:51 In your example, if the browser-supplied page zoom works for resizing text to 200% without clipping, truncation or obscuring, the success criterion would be met. 20:38:26 -Bruce_Bailey 20:38:58 So any of the sufficient techniques listed would alone be sufficient to satisfy SC 1.4.4 (Resize text). 20:39:20 +Bruce_Bailey 20:39:57 RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended in the tracker 20:40:10 TOPIC: LC-2647: Test does not require check whether user-entered data is re-displayed 20:40:48 Check that other data previously entered by the user is re-displayed, unless the field must be reset for security reasons. 20:43:47 (3) Check that other data previously entered by the user is re-displayed, unless the data is in a security related field. 20:45:22 (3) Check that other data previously entered by the user is re-displayed, unless the data is in a security related field where it would be inappropriate to retain the data for representation (e.g. password). 20:46:17 (3) Check that other data previously entered by the user is re-displayed, unless the data is in a security related field where it would be inappropriate to retain the data for re-display (e.g. password). 20:46:37 RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended in the tracker. 20:46:42 TOPIC: LC-2648: Test does not require check whether user-entered data is re-displayed 20:47:28 RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended in the tracker. 20:48:41 regrets: Kathy_Wahlbin, Moe_Kraft, Alex_Li 20:49:02 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012JulSep/0100.html 20:49:07 chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden 20:49:40 -Bruce_Bailey 21:08:52 i haven't failed, i've found 10,000 ways that don't work 21:09:09 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:09:11 -Andrew_Kirkpatrick 21:09:13 -Cherie_Eckholm 21:09:14 -David_MacDonald 21:09:15 -Gregg_Vanderheiden 21:09:16 -MIchael_Cooper 21:09:18 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:09:21 -Robin_Tuttle 21:09:23 WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended 21:09:23 Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, David_MacDonald, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, MIchael_Cooper, Cherie_Eckholm, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Robin_Tuttle 21:20:44 greggvanderheid-1 has joined #wai-wcag 22:57:44 Zakim has left #wai-wcag