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<alejandrorg> hello, I can't join the telco via phone, I'm Alejandro Rodríguez
<matthias_samwald1> hello alejandro, thanks for the notice -- maybe in the next call!
<matthias_samwald1> i don't expect too many participants today, so the teleconference might end soon.
<matthias_samwald1> (i.e., there will not be much to see in this IRC log)
<matthias_samwald1> Amnon Shabo
[discussion of FHIR]
matthias_samwald1: met with Amnon
Shabo, who's been active in the HL7 clinical genomics WG
... came up when discussing useing HL7 clinical genomics for
this CDS task force
... it seems they tried to use genomics in CDA in pilot
projects but it was overly complex
... he discussed creating a group at IHE for clinical
genomics
... looking for people who could formally support such an IHE
group
... i told him about what we're doing in HCLS and that we'd be
interested in any overlap or cooperation points
ericP: would in IHE increase or decrease mindshare on our work?
matthias_samwald1: unclear
now
... IHEs are tech-agnostic, just trying to fit stuff
together
... W3C RECs or tech could be a part of an IHE
... i'll be contacted if anything happens [on this IHE
project]
... i updated the ontological reprepresentation of alleles and
haplotypes
<michel> excel
matthias_samwald1: doing this in excel is no untenable
<matthias_samwald1> https://drive.google.com/#folders/0ByGT-vnkGcoLazlNX2oxMUJzY3c
matthias_samwald1: (was easy to
share with medical professionals)
... but now can't generate the OWL in excel
... instead using a php script to read the excel and spit out
OWL
ericP: scale also constrains reasoners?
matthias_samwald1: yes
... currently the OWL doesn't load 'cause there's a mismatch
between the a SNP in DBSNP and PharmGKB
... already found several inconsistencies between DBSNP and
PharmGKB
... would expect that tr-owl will handle the scale
... note that it not complete and this incompleteness hides
useful inferences
... will be working on this over the next few days
... trying to work with the entire PharmGKB haplotype
table
... also the CPIC dosing guidelines
... if we can get this working with incomplete reasoning, we
can work on completeness and in a realistic CDS timeframe
michel: intrested in inconsistencies between DBSNP and PharmGKB
matthias_samwald1: PharmGKB says
that variant 123 can have any variant while DBSNP only permits
the feasible variants
... plan to normalize. if PharmGKB uses random strands, we
should normalize to DBSNP
<matthias_samwald1> rs1045642_G
matthias_samwald1, rs1045642_G comes from PharmGKB
scribe: entering that in DBSNP.
<michel> http://www.pharmgkb.org/rsid/rs1045642
scribe: in DBSNP, you can only have rs1045642_{A,C,T}
<michel> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/projects/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=1045642
matthias_samwald1: this is
frequent, but not universal
... bobF wanted to represent the CPIC rules in a
machine-processable format
... the lack of a formalism for expressing variants inspires me
to position this formalism as a standard
... it would be good for HCLS to produce a terminology and a
set of tools
michel: we started our work just representing this stuff in RDF/OWL, but your use of OWL to find inconsistencies is a welcome message
ericP: Note sufficient?
matthias_samwald1: SIOC was
successful
... but would be cool to go beyond that
... pharmacogenomics is arguably the most important part of
personalize medicine
ericP: could start with a Note and motivating the community to form a WG
michel: we can follow the history
of provenance
... can start with the Note
matthias_samwald1: still plenty to do with finishing the prototype and then working on a scientific paper
michel: i wrote a parser for
DBSNP
... would like to build up a mashup db
... planning to do a bio2rdf release this WE
... DBSNP not part of this release, but Oct 15 should include
bigger databases
... we have code that RDF-izes clinicaltrials.org
... Rich Boyce has RDf of Structured Product Labels
... hopefully we'll have this in a reliable endpoint
... if you have a priority list of SNPs...
matthias_samwald1: my DBSNP converter maps a bit of the data in our OWL ontology
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