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13:44:45 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be TTML
13:44:45 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
13:44:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
13:44:46 <trackbot> Date: 06 September 2012
13:45:51 <mmartin3> chair
13:45:54 <mmartin3> sean hayes
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13:58:26 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has now started
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14:00:30 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
14:00:48 <mmartin3> zakim +[Microsoft] is mmartin3
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14:00:59 <Zakim> + +44.154.558.aabb
14:01:11 <mmartin3> zakim, +[Microsoft] is mmartin3
14:01:12 <Zakim> sorry, mmartin3, I do not recognize a party named '+[Microsoft]'
14:01:40 <Zakim> + +1.858.847.aacc
14:01:41 <mmartin3> zakim, [Microsoft] is mmartin3
14:01:44 <Zakim> +mmartin3; got it
14:02:14 <pal> zakim, I am aaaa
14:02:14 <Zakim> +pal; got it
14:02:41 <mmartin3> zakim, list attendee
14:02:48 <mmartin3> zakim, list attendees
14:02:51 <Zakim> I don't understand 'list attendee', mmartin3
14:03:07 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.650.525.aaaa, +44.154.558.aabb, +1.858.847.aacc, mmartin3, pal
14:03:17 <Sean> zakim, i am aabb
14:03:17 <plh> plh has joined #tt
14:03:38 <Zakim> +Sean; got it
14:04:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/06-tt-minutes.html plh
14:04:34 <mmartin3> chair 
14:04:38 <Zakim> +Plh
14:04:44 <mmartin3> sean hayes
14:04:44 <plh> Chair: Sean
14:05:01 <mmartin3> zakim, list attendees
14:05:03 <plh> zakim, aacc is Mike
14:05:29 <mmartin3> regrets
14:05:33 <plh> Regrets+ andrew
14:06:12 <mmartin3> Topic:
14:06:12 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.650.525.aaaa, +44.154.558.aabb, +1.858.847.aacc, mmartin3, pal, Sean, Plh
14:06:13 <mmartin3> Profile
14:06:20 <Zakim> +Mike; got it
14:06:43 <mmartin3> sean: Don't think W3C Publication Rules typically apply to Working Group Note
14:07:02 <mmartin3> plh: Do we want to have a last call for this document?
14:07:13 <mmartin3> sean: Yes, want public review.
14:08:07 <mmartin3> plh: Publish as a Working Draft and this is a WG Note. Send request to chair list and have it approved.
14:08:31 <mmartin3> Make sure it is clear this is not for a W3C Recommendation track.
14:08:52 <mmartin3> Point to editor's draft in the request.
14:09:35 <plh> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp/Overview.html
14:10:00 <mmartin3> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html
14:10:56 <mmartin3> mike: What is conflict of interest?
14:10:58 <mmartin3> plh: Discussed conflict of interest on documents in his domain.
14:11:26 <mmartin3> Transition Requirements
14:11:26 <plh> http://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl&docstatus=fpwd-wd-tr
14:12:00 <plh> To: plh@w3.org, swick@w3.org
14:12:09 <plh> cc: chairs@w3.org, w3t-comm@w3.org
14:14:20 <mmartin3> Topic: Actions Review
14:14:25 <mike_> mike_ has joined #tt
14:15:34 <mmartin3> Action-90?
14:15:34 <trackbot> ACTION-90 -- Glenn Adams to move SDP-US to FPWD. -- due 2012-09-06 -- OPEN
14:15:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/90
14:15:48 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Action-90 can be closed.
14:15:59 <mmartin3> Close Action-90
14:15:59 <trackbot> ACTION-90 Move SDP-US to FPWD. closed
14:16:28 <mmartin3> Action-89?
14:16:28 <trackbot> ACTION-89 -- Glenn Adams to add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference. -- due 2012-09-06 -- OPEN
14:16:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/89
14:16:53 <mmartin3> mmartin3: Can we link to to TTML 1.0 Second Edition editor's draft.
14:16:58 <mmartin3> plh: Can link to draft.
14:17:22 <mmartin3> Glenn to add editor's draft reference.
14:18:26 <mmartin3> Action-88?
14:18:26 <trackbot> ACTION-88 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to make sure the TTML media type is properly registered for Issue-175. -- due 2012-08-30 -- OPEN
14:18:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/88
14:18:42 <mmartin3> plh: Working on media type now.
14:18:50 <mmartin3> Close Issue-175
14:18:50 <trackbot> ISSUE-175 media type and file extension not registered closed
14:19:35 <plh> close action-88
14:19:35 <trackbot> ACTION-88 Make sure the TTML media type is properly registered for Issue-175. closed
14:20:08 <mmartin3> Issue-177?
14:20:08 <trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- Clarify mandatory processing semantics referenced in Section 3.2.1. Consider whether to use Appendix D, Table E-2. -- open
14:20:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/177
14:20:55 <mmartin3> mmartin3: http://www.w3.org/mid/CACQ%253Dj%252BfwKBQ1q43SMKmjuamFEs6sc-tGoXKCdtLY6J7i%252BU8FVg%2540mail.gmail.com
14:21:28 <mmartin3> Links to Table E-2, Appendix D that has the mandatory features for processing semantics.
14:21:42 <mmartin3> sean: Make issue pending review.
14:21:43 <plh> ACTION: plh to report on status of media type registration - due 2012-10-04
14:21:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-95 - report on status of media type registration [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2012-10-04].
14:22:15 <mmartin3> Create Action Glenn to implement pending review - add update to Section 3.2.1 for Issue-177.
14:22:23 <plh> ACTION-88: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-types/current/msg01736.html
14:22:23 <trackbot> ACTION-88 Make sure the TTML media type is properly registered for Issue-175. notes added
14:22:34 <plh> ACTION-95: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-types/current/msg01736.html
14:22:34 <trackbot> ACTION-95 report on status of media type registration notes added
14:22:58 <mmartin3> Create Action - Glenn to implement pending review - add update to Section 3.2.1 for Issue-177.
14:23:18 <mmartin3> Topic: Issues
14:23:23 <mmartin3> Issue-179?
14:23:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- Interpreting the pixel measure -- open
14:23:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/179
14:24:01 <mmartin3> mike: We've not seen disagreement to proposal.
14:24:33 <mmartin3> sean: If we fix in Second Edition, Trigger conformance on Second Edition?
14:24:38 <mmartin3> plh: Yes.
14:25:36 <mmartin3> sean: Keep separate 1.0 errata vs. 1.1 extensions.
14:27:15 <mmartin3> Issue-174?
14:27:15 <trackbot> ISSUE-174 -- Need to define at least one canonical syntax for TTML -- open
14:27:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/174
14:27:59 <mmartin3> sean: 1.0 fix with syntax to say what entities apply if any? any objections?
14:28:25 <mmartin3> mike: Substantive changes to 1.0 and is a concern.
14:29:17 <mmartin3> sean: On the fence.
14:29:26 <mmartin3> mike: Defer to 1.1.
14:30:21 <mmartin3> Resolution: Defer Issue-174 to 1.1 specification.
14:30:43 <mmartin3> Close Issue-174 Defer to 1.1 specification.
14:31:34 <mmartin3> Close Issue-174
14:31:34 <trackbot> ISSUE-174 Need to define at least one canonical syntax for TTML closed
14:32:34 <mmartin3> Issue-179?
14:32:35 <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- Interpreting the pixel measure -- open
14:32:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/179
14:32:47 <mmartin3> Discuss whether errata or not.
14:33:30 <mmartin3> sean: Fix 1.0.
14:33:40 <mmartin3> mike: How is it different than Issue-174 then?
14:33:43 <mmartin3> sean: Less broken.
14:34:29 <mmartin3> px measure is clearly broken; syntax is not so.
14:34:55 <mmartin3> mike: OK as long as we don't delay the publication of the Second Edition.
14:36:19 <mmartin3> sean: Go forward with 1.0 Second Edition.
14:36:53 <mmartin3> Issue-176?
14:36:53 <trackbot> ISSUE-176 -- Adding support for extent and origin attributes on block elements -- open
14:36:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/176
14:36:57 <mmartin3> Defer for today.
14:37:07 <mmartin3> Topic: Editor
14:37:52 <mmartin3> sean: Set up special off-topic discussions where Glenn could attend. 12 midnight European, 4 p.m. PT, Glenn morning.
14:38:50 <mmartin3> mike: Have standing meeting at 4 p.m. Thursdays.
14:39:06 <mmartin3> 3 p.m. can work better.
14:39:47 <mmartin3> sean: Will set up a call 3 p.m. to do special topics.
14:39:59 <mmartin3> pal: Need specific date.
14:40:05 <mmartin3> sean: Sept 20.
14:42:45 <mmartin3> sean: May need logistics from plh.
14:44:07 <mmartin3> sean: Sept 21 was confirmed by everyone.
14:44:40 <mmartin3> mike: Move back to Sept 20 if Glenn can not attend.
14:45:26 <mmartin3> sean: Asked Glenn for work plan.
14:45:31 <mmartin3> Will advise.
14:46:04 <Zakim> -Plh
14:46:06 <Zakim> -Sean
14:46:08 <Zakim> -pal
14:46:08 <Zakim> -Mike
14:46:09 <mmartin3> topic: Adjournment
14:46:42 <mmartin3> zakim, list attendees
14:46:42 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.650.525.aaaa, +44.154.558.aabb, +1.858.847.aacc, mmartin3, pal, Sean, Plh, Mike
14:47:00 <mmartin3> trackbot, end meeting
14:47:00 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:47:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.650.525.aaaa, +44.154.558.aabb, +1.858.847.aacc, mmartin3, pal, Sean, Plh, Mike
14:47:08 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:47:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/06-tt-minutes.html trackbot
14:47:09 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:47:09 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/06-tt-actions.rdf :
14:47:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: plh to report on status of media type registration - due 2012-10-04 [1]
14:47:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/06-tt-irc#T14-21-43