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13:59:03 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-html-media-irc
13:59:05 RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:59:09 Zakim, this will be 63342
13:59:09 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
13:59:11 Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
13:59:13 Date: 04 September 2012
14:04:53 zakim, dial matt-voip
14:05:41 Zakim has joined #html-media
14:05:44 zakim, dial matt-voip
14:05:44 sorry, matt, I don't know what conference this is
14:05:51 zakim, this will be 63342
14:05:51 ok, matt; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 55 minutes
14:06:00 zakim, dial matt-voip
14:06:00 ok, matt; the call is being made
14:06:13 zakim, drop me
14:06:13 sorry, matt, I don't know what conference this is
14:06:19 zakim, this will be 63342
14:06:19 ok, matt; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 54 minutes
14:06:25 zakim, drop matt
14:06:25 sorry, matt, I don't know what conference this is
14:44:42 ddorwin has joined #html-media
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14:57:10 zakim, this is HTML_WG
14:57:10 "HTML_WG" matches HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM, and HTML_WG()11:00AM, adrianba
14:57:33 pal has joined #html-media
14:57:47 HTML_WG()11:00AM has now started
14:57:53 + +1.760.591.aaaa
14:58:04 + +1.650.458.aabb
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14:58:21 +[Microsoft]
14:58:29 zakim, [Microsoft] is me
14:58:29 +adrianba; got it
14:58:30 zakim, dial matt-voip
14:58:30 ok, matt; the call is being made
14:58:31 +Matt
14:58:44 I am aabb
14:59:02 zakim, I am aabb
14:59:02 +pal; got it
14:59:15 zakim, who is on the phone?
14:59:15 On the phone I see +1.760.591.aaaa, pal, adrianba, Matt
14:59:17 joesteele has joined #html-media
14:59:26 paulc has joined #html-media
14:59:40 Zakim, aaaa is me
14:59:40 +pladd; got it
14:59:56 +[Microsoft]
15:00:07 zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
15:00:07 +paulc; got it
15:00:10 + +1.415.867.aacc
15:00:17 + +1.925.984.aadd
15:00:35 Zakim, aadd is joesteele
15:00:35 +joesteele; got it
15:01:07 + +1.425.202.aaee
15:01:16 +??P21
15:01:21 Clarke has joined #html-media
15:01:24 zakim, who is on the phone?
15:01:32 On the phone I see pladd, pal, adrianba, Matt, [Microsoft], +1.415.867.aacc, joesteele, +1.425.202.aaee, ??P21
15:01:36 [Microsoft] has paulc
15:01:51 zakim, ??21 is me
15:01:51 sorry, ddorwin, I do not recognize a party named '??21'
15:01:53 -??P21
15:01:53 + +1.303.661.aaff
15:01:57 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Aug/0049.html
15:02:04 zakim, ??P21 is me
15:02:04 I already had ??P21 as Guest P21 26631, ddorwin
15:02:07 Zakim, list attendees
15:02:08 As of this point the attendees have been +1.760.591.aaaa, +1.650.458.aabb, adrianba, Matt, pal, pladd, paulc, +1.415.867.aacc, +1.925.984.aadd, joesteele, +1.425.202.aaee,
15:02:08 ... +1.303.661.aaff
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15:02:30 zakim, I am aabb
15:02:30 sorry, pal, I do not see a party named 'aabb'
15:02:40 zakim, aaff is me
15:02:41 zakim, aaee is me
15:02:42 +Clarke; got it
15:02:42 +ddorwin; got it
15:02:49 Zakim, who is on the phone
15:02:49 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', pladd
15:02:53 zakim, aabb is pal
15:02:53 sorry, matt, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
15:02:54 Zakim, aadd is joesteele
15:02:54 sorry, joesteele, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
15:03:00 Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:00 On the phone I see pladd, pal, adrianba, Matt, [Microsoft], +1.415.867.aacc, joesteele, ddorwin, Clarke
15:03:02 [Microsoft] has paulc
15:03:09 zakim, I am +1.650.458.aabb
15:03:09 sorry, pal, I do not see a party named '+1.650.458.aabb'
15:03:14 zakim, 1.650.458.aabb is pal
15:03:14 sorry, matt, I do not recognize a party named '1.650.458.aabb'
15:03:18 zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:18 On the phone I see pladd, pal, adrianba, Matt, [Microsoft], +1.415.867.aacc, joesteele, ddorwin, Clarke
15:03:20 [Microsoft] has paulc
15:03:22 zakim, aacc is markw
15:03:22 +markw; got it
15:03:44 mark_vickers has joined #html-media
15:03:52 zakim, who is one the phone?
15:03:52 I don't understand your question, adrianba.
15:03:56 zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:56 On the phone I see pladd, pal, adrianba, Matt, [Microsoft], markw, joesteele, ddorwin, Clarke
15:03:59 [Microsoft] has paulc
15:04:00 +??P31
15:04:18 63342#zakim, ??P31 is me
15:04:50 zakim, who is on the phone?
15:04:50 On the phone I see pladd, pal, adrianba, Matt, [Microsoft], markw, joesteele, ddorwin, Clarke, ??P31
15:04:52 [Microsoft] has paulc
15:04:55 I am on IRC and listening, but I may not be able to speak.
15:04:58 ScribeNick: adrianba
15:05:02 +[Microsoft.a]
15:05:02 Scribe: Adrian Bateman
15:05:07 Chair: Paul Cotton
15:05:09 at FOMS
15:05:24 http://foms-workshop.org/foms2012
15:06:00 TOPIC: Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe
15:06:05 paulc: done
15:06:14 TOPIC: Previous meeting minutes
15:06:20 http://www.w3.org/2012/08/21-html-media-minutes.html
15:06:30 paulc: no comments on the minutes
15:06:39 Review of action items
15:06:43 +Mark_Vickers
15:06:50 paulc: all action items are on the agenda
15:06:55 zakim, ??p31 is me
15:06:55 +BobLund; got it
15:06:59 TOPIC: Baseline documents and Bugzilla information
15:07:16 paulc: most recent version is dated September 1
15:07:18 http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html
15:08:08 agenda for today: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Sep/0000.html
15:08:35 Agenda: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html
15:08:41 johnsim has joined #html-media
15:08:49 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Sep/0000.html
15:09:03 TOPIC: Action from the previous meeting
15:09:10 zakim, who is on call
15:09:10 I don't understand 'who is on call', johnsim
15:09:10 ACTION-2?
15:09:10 ACTION-2 -- Mark Watson to propose a resolution to bug 17673 -- due 2012-08-17 -- CLOSED
15:09:10 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/2
15:09:34 paulc: mark pointed out that he'd done the action but the bug is not resolved
15:09:36 q+
15:10:01 johnsim: adrian and i discussed this - we need to propose text for this
15:10:05 zakim, mute me
15:10:05 Matt should now be muted
15:10:07 paulc: this bug is assigned to you
15:10:33 -[Microsoft]
15:10:35 q-
15:10:45 + +1.858.677.aagg
15:11:12 markw: a solutuion is proposed but we have to agree on the solution to resolve the bug
15:11:13 +[Microsoft]
15:11:31 s/solutuion/solution/
15:11:32 zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
15:11:32 +paulc; got it
15:11:52 paulc: there are a fair number of bugs that have been assigned
15:12:15 ... should i have an action for john to propose text
15:12:17 q+
15:12:29 ack adr
15:14:04 adrianba: the editors looked at all the bugs and tried to assign them to the person for the next action
15:14:32 ... for some of them it is to write text into the spec for some it is to make progress on the list
15:14:50 paulc: 17673 is for johnsim to propose text
15:15:11 ACTION-3?
15:15:11 ACTION-3 -- Adrian Bateman to propose resolution to bug 17682 -- due 2012-08-31 -- OPEN
15:15:11 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/3
15:15:24 paulc: the deadline was last week - has this been done?
15:15:41 johnsim: yes, this is assigned to me
15:16:12 paulc: johnsim, can you give us a due date?
15:16:24 johnsim: by the 11th
15:16:30 ACTION-3 due sep 11
15:16:30 ACTION-3 Propose resolution to bug 17682 due date now sep 11
15:16:37 re: ACTION-4, the WebM team is refining some things related to encryption. I will add text once that is done. I expect that to be complete by the 18th.
15:16:39 ACTION-4?
15:16:39 ACTION-4 -- David Dorwin to propose a solution for bug 17672 -- due 2012-09-04 -- OPEN
15:16:39 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/4
15:16:54 paulc: this one is on david and due date extended to today
15:17:29 Proposal is in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17672#c3
15:17:32 ... i believe this one is done - here is the link to the proposal
15:18:17 see above
15:18:26 repeating: re: ACTION-4, the WebM team is refining some things related to encryption. I will add text once that is done. I expect that to be complete by the 18th.
15:18:50 ACTION-4 due sep 18
15:18:50 ACTION-4 Propose a solution for bug 17672 due date now sep 18
15:18:59 ACTION-5?
15:18:59 ACTION-5 -- Mark Watson to follow-up on Key Release mail thread now that the OO changes have been made - discuss on next call -- due 2012-08-28 -- OPEN
15:18:59 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/5
15:19:30 Mark proposal in: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Sep/0003.html
15:19:34 paulc: this is the proposal provided by mark watson
15:19:47 markw has joined #html-media
15:19:48 ... this action is done and we have a mail thread
15:20:03 close ACTION-5
15:20:04 ACTION-5 Follow-up on Key Release mail thread now that the OO changes have been made - discuss on next call closed
15:20:11 zakim, who is on the phone ?
15:20:11 On the phone I see pladd, pal, adrianba, Matt (muted), markw, joesteele, ddorwin, Clarke, BobLund, [Microsoft.a], Mark_Vickers, +1.858.677.aagg, [Microsoft]
15:20:14 TOPIC: Encrypted media extension bugs with dispositions
15:20:14 [Microsoft] has paulc
15:20:33 paulc: there are 12 bugs here
15:20:52 ... some are resolved fix, worksforme and a bunch won't fix and later
15:21:01 ... these bugs have all been updated in bugzilla
15:21:15 ... so anyone who added themselves to the cc list would have seen the dispositions
15:21:41 ... we could note these in the minutes and say that if they have any difficulties they should respond in bugzilla
15:22:00 ... bug 16748
15:22:00 was resolved needsinfo - we could discuss that one
15:22:24 pladd: i submitted that one and will respond in bugzilla
15:22:25 zakim, who is on the phone?
15:22:25 On the phone I see pladd, pal, adrianba, Matt (muted), markw, joesteele, ddorwin, Clarke, BobLund, [Microsoft.a], Mark_Vickers, +1.858.677.aagg, [Microsoft]
15:22:28 [Microsoft] has paulc
15:22:44 ... i'm just requested a clarification - if the authors don't think it's useful i'm okay with that
15:22:53 paulc: it would be good to acknowledge that
15:22:59 pladd: will do
15:23:17 paulc: there are a couple that were resolved LATER - this means there will be no changes here
15:23:33 ... i'm not hearing any calls to discuss any so i'm going to move on
15:23:44 TOPIC: Unresolved Encrypted media extension bugs
15:23:56 Outstanding bugs -> http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo
15:24:25 paulc: all the bugs are assigned to somebody
15:25:06 +joesteele
15:25:11 +q
15:25:45 adrianba: we think this list is actionable
15:26:03 rrsagent,draft minutes
15:26:03 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-html-media-minutes.html matt
15:26:04 rrsagent, draft minutes
15:26:04 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-html-media-minutes.html matt
15:26:05 ... action is to either write spec text or raise a mailing list discussion
15:26:12 rrsagent, make logs public
15:26:12 paulc: did you give yourselves a deadline
15:26:16 rrsagent, draft minutes
15:26:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-html-media-minutes.html matt
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15:27:29 adrianba: we didn't set a specific deadline but hoping to make enough progress by the next call to be able to review changes
15:27:46 paulc: and be able to create another agenda item like agenda 6 today
15:28:06 joesteele: is there a way to view the closed bugs?
15:28:37 paulc: the media email list is set-up in the same way the html-wg list is
15:28:47 ... bugzilla sends new bugs to the mailing list
15:29:01 ... each time someone creates a new bug, an email is sent to the list
15:29:23 ... anytime anyone changes a bug there is an email sent but not to public-html-media
15:29:35 ... to avoid the mailing list drowning in every update
15:29:54 ... so any time you see a new message that you're interested in, click on the bug and add yourself to the cc list for the bug
15:29:56 @joesteele: Choose "Edit Search" to pick all Resolution status.
15:30:14 ... then if anyone makes a change, you'll see the email
15:31:10 paulc: to answer the question, if you click on the link to the list of bugs
15:31:19 ... at the bottom, there is a link to Edit Search
15:31:26 Is it public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org ?
15:31:54 ... click on that and you can see the search form and the status field - you probably also want to select RESOLVED, VERIFIED, and CLOSED
15:32:05 thanks -- that was the answer I was looking for
15:32:11 ... then you'll see the closed bugs
15:32:33 zakim, who is noisy?
15:32:35 Bob your not muted
15:32:41 zakim, temporarily mute johnsim
15:32:41 sorry, matt, I do not know which phone connection belongs to johnsim
15:32:46 adrianba, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: joesteele (36%), BobLund (41%)
15:32:46 zakim, who is on the phone?
15:32:48 On the phone I see pladd, pal, adrianba, Matt (muted), markw, joesteele, ddorwin, Clarke, BobLund, [Microsoft.a], Mark_Vickers, +1.858.677.aagg, [Microsoft]
15:32:48 [Microsoft] has paulc
15:32:51 zakim, temporarily mute boblund
15:32:51 BobLund should now be muted
15:33:07 BobLund should now be unmuted again
15:33:09 zakim, temporarily mute boblund
15:33:09 BobLund should now be muted
15:33:24 BobLund should now be unmuted again
15:33:27 zakim, temporarily mute boblund
15:33:27