IRC log of wai-wcag on 2012-08-16
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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- ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started
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- Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 16 August 2012
- 19:57:04 [MichaelC]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012JulSep/0051.html
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- regrets: Kathleen_Wahlbin, Alex_Li, Robin_Tuttle
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- +Cooper
- 20:05:00 [MichaelC]
- chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
- 20:05:12 [Loretta]
- zakim, who is on the phone
- 20:05:12 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is on the phone', Loretta
- 20:05:20 [Loretta]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:05:20 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper
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- +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- +Marc_Johlic
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- +[Microsoft]
- 20:08:15 [Loretta]
- zakim, Microsoft is Cherie
- 20:08:15 [Zakim]
- +Cherie; got it
- 20:13:55 [MichaelC]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120816misc/results Review of Website Accessibility Conformance Evaluation Methodology 1.0
- 20:16:10 [Loretta]
- Michael, we are taking a few ninutes to read...
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- +David_MacDonald
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 21:07:55 [Loretta]
- ack b
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- -Cherie
- 21:23:52 [Loretta]
- Feedback on critical issues to address in this version:
- 21:24:47 [Loretta]
- This note reads very prescriptively for an informative document. If it is meant to be normative, the task force should recharter.
- 21:25:17 [Loretta]
- Many concerns about language restricting this methodology to entire web sites. This goes beyond WCAG.
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
- 21:25:58 [Loretta]
- Presentational issues: editor's notes; insufficient descriptions for diagrams; lists difficult to read.
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- Normative references to content on ER web site.
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- "Key" or "primary" functionality
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- Requirement, conformance language should be softened.
- 21:28:42 [greggvanderheiden]
- refresh your screen to see my latest notes
- 21:28:48 [greggvanderheiden]
- they are at the top of my notes
- 21:28:57 [greggvanderheiden]
- I fell off and can't get back on
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- Ciao for now
- 21:29:06 [Loretta]
- "Key" or "primary" functionality could be misused. "Commonly used"?
- 21:31:19 [Loretta]
- Need to clarify the scope of this effort, because of WCAG's concern that this not become the only accepted methodology for evaluating WCAG conformance.
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Cooper
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- -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Marc_Johlic
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- WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Marc_Johlic, Cherie, David_MacDonald