19:56:51 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:56:51 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-wai-wcag-irc 19:56:53 RRSAgent, make logs public 19:56:53 Zakim has joined #wai-wcag 19:56:55 Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 19:56:55 ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started 19:56:56 Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 19:56:56 Date: 16 August 2012 19:57:04 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012JulSep/0051.html 19:57:40 regrets: Kathleen_Wahlbin, Alex_Li, Robin_Tuttle 19:59:31 +Bruce_Bailey 20:02:34 Loretta has joined #WAI-WCAG 20:03:04 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:03:17 +Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:04:49 +Cooper 20:05:00 chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:05:12 zakim, who is on the phone 20:05:12 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', Loretta 20:05:20 zakim, who is on the phone? 20:05:20 On the phone I see Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper 20:05:55 +Andrew_Kirkpatrick 20:06:49 marcjohlic has joined #wai-wcag 20:07:03 +Marc_Johlic 20:07:15 +[Microsoft] 20:08:15 zakim, Microsoft is Cherie 20:08:15 +Cherie; got it 20:13:55 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120816misc/results Review of Website Accessibility Conformance Evaluation Methodology 1.0 20:16:10 Michael, we are taking a few ninutes to read... 20:43:50 +David_MacDonald 20:45:02 David has joined #wai-wcag 20:45:19 -Bruce_Bailey 20:45:41 +Bruce_Bailey 21:07:55 ack b 21:12:26 -Cherie 21:23:52 Feedback on critical issues to address in this version: 21:24:47 This note reads very prescriptively for an informative document. If it is meant to be normative, the task force should recharter. 21:25:17 Many concerns about language restricting this methodology to entire web sites. This goes beyond WCAG. 21:25:49 -Gregg_Vanderheiden 21:25:58 Presentational issues: editor's notes; insufficient descriptions for diagrams; lists difficult to read. 21:26:24 Normative references to content on ER web site. 21:26:46 "Key" or "primary" functionality 21:27:34 Requirement, conformance language should be softened. 21:28:42 refresh your screen to see my latest notes 21:28:48 they are at the top of my notes 21:28:57 I fell off and can't get back on 21:29:00 Ciao for now 21:29:06 "Key" or "primary" functionality could be misused. "Commonly used"? 21:31:19 Need to clarify the scope of this effort, because of WCAG's concern that this not become the only accepted methodology for evaluating WCAG conformance. 21:40:32 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:40:33 -Cooper 21:40:33 -Andrew_Kirkpatrick 21:40:34 -Bruce_Bailey 21:40:34 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:40:35 -David_MacDonald 21:40:41 -Marc_Johlic 21:40:43 WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended 21:40:43 Attendees were Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Marc_Johlic, Cherie, David_MacDonald