IRC log of wai-wcag on 2012-08-16

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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started
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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 16 August 2012
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regrets: Kathleen_Wahlbin, Alex_Li, Robin_Tuttle
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chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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zakim, who is on the phone
20:05:12 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is on the phone', Loretta
20:05:20 [Loretta]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:05:20 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper
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20:08:15 [Loretta]
zakim, Microsoft is Cherie
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+Cherie; got it
20:13:55 [MichaelC]
-> Review of Website Accessibility Conformance Evaluation Methodology 1.0
20:16:10 [Loretta]
Michael, we are taking a few ninutes to read...
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ack b
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Feedback on critical issues to address in this version:
21:24:47 [Loretta]
This note reads very prescriptively for an informative document. If it is meant to be normative, the task force should recharter.
21:25:17 [Loretta]
Many concerns about language restricting this methodology to entire web sites. This goes beyond WCAG.
21:25:49 [Zakim]
21:25:58 [Loretta]
Presentational issues: editor's notes; insufficient descriptions for diagrams; lists difficult to read.
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Normative references to content on ER web site.
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"Key" or "primary" functionality
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Requirement, conformance language should be softened.
21:28:42 [greggvanderheiden]
refresh your screen to see my latest notes
21:28:48 [greggvanderheiden]
they are at the top of my notes
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I fell off and can't get back on
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Ciao for now
21:29:06 [Loretta]
"Key" or "primary" functionality could be misused. "Commonly used"?
21:31:19 [Loretta]
Need to clarify the scope of this effort, because of WCAG's concern that this not become the only accepted methodology for evaluating WCAG conformance.
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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Gregg_Vanderheiden, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Marc_Johlic, Cherie, David_MacDonald