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15:50:52 <Joshue108> zakim, this will be 9224
15:50:53 <Zakim> ok, Joshue108; I see WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM scheduled to start 20 minutes ago
15:51:00 <Joshue108> rrsagent, make log world
15:51:17 <Joshue108> Meeting: HTML Techniques Task Force
15:51:54 <Joshue108> Agenda + discuss the conclusions of the WCAG working group to the 2 questions we asked in this week's survey
15:51:54 <Joshue108> If you haven't seen the results they can be found here (Q 1 & 2)
15:51:54 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120809misc/results
15:52:05 <Joshue108> agenda + Status of group
16:00:03 <Zakim> WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM has now started
16:00:10 <Zakim> +??P1
16:00:18 <Joshue108> zakim, ??P1 is Joshue
16:00:20 <Zakim> +Joshue; got it
16:00:20 <Zakim> +Cooper
16:01:32 <Loretta> Loretta has joined #html-techs-tf
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16:02:01 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen
16:02:13 <jamesn> zakim, who is on the call?
16:02:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see Joshue, Cooper, James_Nurthen
16:02:46 <Zakim> +??P7
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16:03:33 <Zakim> +Marc_Johlic
16:03:48 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P7 is Loretta_Guarino_Reid
16:03:48 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid; got it
16:09:45 <jamesn> I have set up 2 new eiki pages
16:09:46 <jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/index.php?title=Open_Actions&action=edit&redlink=1
16:09:54 <jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/index.php?title=Closed_Actions&action=edit&redlink=1
16:10:16 <jamesn> linked from http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques
16:10:46 <jamesn> add open actions to the 1st then when closed copy to the 2nd link
16:10:59 <Joshue108> s/eiki/wiki
16:11:26 <Joshue108> zakim, take up item 1
16:11:26 <Zakim> agendum 1. "discuss the conclusions of the WCAG working group to the 2 questions we asked in this week's survey" taken up [from Joshue108]
16:11:47 <marcjohlic> scribe:  marcjohlic
16:12:09 <marcjohlic> TOPIC:  Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Examples in WAI-ARIA techniques 
16:14:12 <marcjohlic> JN:  Create a new Note in the ARIA Technology section - basically quoting ARIA spec and when we have a technique that would apply we would link to that Note
16:15:54 <marcjohlic> JOC:  ARIA was originally a bridging technology, but as things are changing it may be considered part of the toolkit
16:16:13 <marcjohlic> MC:  Probably safe to say that it will be a part of HTML5
16:17:09 <marcjohlic> JN:  We also want to allow cases where a good native semantic exists - to enhance
16:18:16 <marcjohlic> JN:  One way that ARIA is used (may not be optimal) but is to add it afterwards to make code accessible.
16:18:53 <marcjohlic> LG:  Retrofit existing code - less than Best Practice - but it's better to have code that may not be Best Practice, but it is accessible
16:19:11 <Joshue108> s/ it may be considered part of the toolkit/it is now a first class citizen of the markup toolkit
16:19:43 <marcjohlic> LG:  That type of sentiment is what we would like to add to the Note that can be referenced by techniques
16:22:12 <Joshue108> zakim, take up item 2
16:22:12 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Status of group" taken up [from Joshue108]
16:23:32 <Joshue108> +q
16:23:47 <Joshue108> ack, me
16:24:00 <marcjohlic> RESOLUTION:  Follow decision from WCAG meeting - create note in ARIA Technology that can be referenced.
16:24:12 <marcjohlic> TOPIC:  Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Direction on ARIA states technique
16:24:22 <Joshue108> ack me
16:26:32 <marcjohlic> LG:  Instead of just signing up for techniques - you have to also commit to a date.
16:26:56 <Joshue108> +1 to Loretta
16:27:20 <Joshue108> +1 to Marc
16:28:19 <marcjohlic> JOC:  Also need an indication on the wiki that shows when techniques are complete
16:28:31 <marcjohlic> JOC will update the wiki - clear the slate
16:29:50 <jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/index.php?title=Open_Actions&action=edit&redlink=1
16:29:58 <jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques
16:31:26 <marcjohlic> ^^  Link to new Open Action Items page in wiki
16:31:53 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Open_Actions
16:33:58 <Joshue108> Tree Widget by Hans http://hanshillen.github.com/jqtest/#goto_tree
16:34:12 <jamesn> http://www.oaa-accessibility.org/example/41/
16:38:20 <Joshue108> +q
16:39:06 <Joshue108> +q to say that the autocomplete support for HTML5 actually isn't bad
16:39:54 <Joshue108> ack me
16:39:54 <Zakim> Joshue, you wanted to say that the autocomplete support for HTML5 actually isn't bad
16:41:15 <marcjohlic> LG:  Would like to get a basic set of techniques out - so that we can publish something and then we can add to it
16:41:50 <marcjohlic> JN has added the suggested techniques to 4.1.2 in the wiki
16:52:46 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
16:52:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/13-html-techs-tf-minutes.html jamesn
16:52:52 <Zakim> -Joshue
16:52:54 <Zakim> -Cooper
16:52:56 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
16:53:00 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
16:53:01 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
16:53:01 <Zakim> WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM has ended
16:53:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Joshue, Cooper, James_Nurthen, Marc_Johlic, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
16:53:08 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
16:53:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/13-html-techs-tf-minutes.html jamesn
16:57:57 <jamesn> or get the text version at http://www.w3.org/2012/08/13-html-techs-tf-minutes.html,text
16:58:39 <jamesn> do you want to send them?
16:59:36 <jamesn> rrsagent, please part
16:59:36 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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17:05:02 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
17:05:05 <MichaelC> chair: Joshue_O_Connor
17:05:09 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
17:05:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/13-html-techs-tf-minutes.html MichaelC
17:05:14 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
17:05:14 <RRSAgent> I see no action items