19:56:43 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:56:43 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-irc 19:56:45 RRSAgent, make logs public 19:56:45 Zakim has joined #wai-wcag 19:56:47 Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 19:56:47 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes 19:56:48 Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 19:56:48 Date: 09 August 2012 19:57:22 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012JulSep/0042.html 19:57:41 regrets: Kathleen_Wahlbin 19:57:49 chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid 19:58:12 WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started 19:58:19 +Katie_Haritos-Shea 19:58:47 +Cooper 19:59:09 korn1 has joined #wai-wcag 19:59:42 +[Oracle] 19:59:48 Zakim, Oracle has Peter_Korn 19:59:48 +Peter_Korn; got it 20:00:05 greggvanderheiden has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:21 +David_MacDonald 20:00:25 +Bruce_Bailey 20:01:01 +Gregg_Vanderheiden 20:01:14 +James_Nurthen 20:01:22 robin has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:23 jamesn has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:56 + +1.206.544.aaaa 20:02:04 David has joined #wai-wcag 20:02:25 +[Microsoft] 20:02:37 zakim, aaaa is Robin_Tuttle 20:02:37 +Robin_Tuttle; got it 20:02:52 -Bruce_Bailey 20:02:59 zakim, who is on the call? 20:02:59 On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper, [Oracle], David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, James_Nurthen, Robin_Tuttle, [Microsoft] 20:03:00 zakim, Microsoft is Alex_Li 20:03:01 [Oracle] has Peter_Korn 20:03:01 +Alex_Li; got it 20:03:23 +Bruce_Bailey 20:05:51 marcjohlic has joined #wai-wcag 20:06:11 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120809misc/results Miscellaneous issues for 09 Aug 2012 20:06:12 +Marc_Johlic 20:06:48 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:06:56 Loretta has joined #WAI-WCAG 20:07:01 +??P7 20:07:22 zakim, ??P7 is adam_solomon 20:07:22 +adam_solomon; got it 20:08:14 topic: Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Examples in WAI-ARIA techniques 20:25:52 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:26:13 +Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:30:25 jamesn has joined #wai-wcag 20:37:37 -Bruce_Bailey 20:38:04 RESOLUTION: Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Examples in WAI-ARIA techniques - there will be a discussion of this issue in the ARIA technology notes. Examples that seem to contradict using semantic controls when available will include a link back to that discussion. 20:38:19 +Bruce_Bailey 20:38:26 ACTION: jamesn to Create a Note for the WAI-ARIA techniques so that examples which seem to contradict the "use semantic elements" statement in the aria spec can refer to 20:38:26 Created ACTION-176 - Create a Note for the WAI-ARIA techniques so that examples which seem to contradict the "use semantic elements" statement in the aria spec can refer to [on James Nurthen - due 2012-08-16]. 20:38:37 action-176? 20:38:37 ACTION-176 -- James Nurthen to create a Note for the WAI-ARIA techniques so that examples which seem to contradict the "use semantic elements" statement in the aria spec can refer to -- due 2012-08-16 -- OPEN 20:38:37 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/176 20:39:43 To the action, people can add thoughts to the action in the add notes field 20:40:21 topic: Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Direction on ARIA states technique 20:41:47 http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-TECHS/H91 20:42:11 (btw choose "edit this action" first to get to the "Add notes" field) 20:46:59 -Bruce_Bailey 20:53:33 Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Direction on ARIA states technique – Feedback for taskforce: explore combining a broad general technique on states with more target techniques for different roles or classes of states 20:53:33 20:53:46 -adam_solomon 20:54:21 topic: 3.1.1 Guidance - submitted for approval 20:54:33 q+ 20:57:55 q+ to ask about if application doesn't support the system's language 20:58:03 ack k 21:00:08 Where software platforms provide a "locale/language" setting, applications that user that setting and render their interface in that "locale/language" would comply with this success criterion. 21:03:31 ack me 21:03:31 MichaelC, you wanted to ask about if application doesn't support the system's language 21:05:01 Where software platforms provide a "locale/language" setting, applications that use that setting and render their interface in that "locale/language" would comply with this success criterion. Applications that do not use the platform "locale/language setting" but instead use an accessibility supported method for exposing the human language of the software user interface would also comply with this success criterion. Applications implemented in technologi 21:06:15 Last sentence (slightly further modified): "Applications implemented in technologies where Assistive technologies cannot determine the human language and that do not support the platform "locale/language" setting may not be able to meet this success criterion in that locale/language." 21:11:03 https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/3-understandable/31-make-text-content-readable-and-understandable/311-language-of-page 21:11:14 See "New text discussed in WCAG WG in 9Aug12:" 21:18:00 action: cooper to write up language for WCAG2ICT support for 3.1.1 that explains the conformance if the OS is set to one language, the application doesn't support that and falls back to another, and has no way to inform user that there is a desynchronicity 21:18:00 Created ACTION-177 - Write up language for WCAG2ICT support for 3.1.1 that explains the conformance if the OS is set to one language, the application doesn't support that and falls back to another, and has no way to inform user that there is a desynchronicity [on Michael Cooper - due 2012-08-16]. 21:18:54 RESOLUTION: 3.1.1 Guidance - submitted for approval – Accepted as amended here https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/3-understandable/31-make-text-content-readable-and-understandable/311-language-of-page See New text discussed in WCAG WG on 9Aug12 21:19:17 topic: 3.1.2 Guidance - submitted for approval 21:22:46 jamesn has joined #wai-wcag 21:25:28 action: peter to clarify role of inheritance in 3.1.2 Understanding Document with respect to nested elements. 21:25:28 Created ACTION-178 - Clarify role of inheritance in 3.1.2 Understanding Document with respect to nested elements. [on Peter Korn - due 2012-08-16]. 21:27:55 https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/3-understandable/31-make-text-content-readable-and-understandable/312-language-of-parts 21:29:08 RESOLUTION: 3.1.2 Guidance - submitted for approval – accept as amended here https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/3-understandable/31-make-text-content-readable-and-understandable/312-language-of-parts see “From WCAG WG meeting on 9Aug12:” 21:29:21 topic: 4.1.2 -- Approval of a note to Task Force Guidance for 4.1.2 21:29:38 RESOLUTION: 4.1.2 -- Approval of a note to Task Force Guidance for 4.1.2 - accepted as proposed 21:29:47 -Alex_Li 21:30:54 -Gregg_Vanderheiden 21:31:45 got dropped but no matter. thanks eveyone 21:32:26 -James_Nurthen 21:33:02 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:33:03 -[Oracle] 21:33:04 -Cooper 21:33:05 -David_MacDonald 21:33:07 -Marc_Johlic 21:33:13 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:33:22 -Robin_Tuttle 21:33:23 WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended 21:33:23 Attendees were Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper, Peter_Korn, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Gregg_Vanderheiden, James_Nurthen, +1.206.544.aaaa, Robin_Tuttle, Alex_Li, Marc_Johlic, 21:33:23 ... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, adam_solomon 21:33:26 rrsagent, make minutes 21:33:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC 21:33:39 korn1 has left #wai-wcag 21:51:25 rrsagent, bye 21:51:25 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 21:51:25 ACTION: jamesn to Create a Note for the WAI-ARIA techniques so that examples which seem to contradict the "use semantic elements" statement in the aria spec can refer to [1] 21:51:25 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T20-38-26 21:51:25 ACTION: cooper to write up language for WCAG2ICT support for 3.1.1 that explains the conformance if the OS is set to one language, the application doesn't support that and falls back to another, and has no way to inform user that there is a desynchronicity [2] 21:51:25 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T21-18-00 21:51:25 ACTION: peter to clarify role of inheritance in 3.1.2 Understanding Document with respect to nested elements. [3] 21:51:25 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T21-25-28 21:51:27 zakim, bye 21:51:27 Zakim has left #wai-wcag